From an EEOC press release: “The Redwoods in Yosemite Sued by EEOC for Unlawful Treatment of Hispanic Employees.” Careful what you wish for, trees, you might get it.
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ShelbyC says:
Expecting more from wise Latinos, eh?
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September 29, 2009, 10:48 amEinhverfr says:
Darned racists trees.
Of course, Norse myth tells us how the first humans were created by divinely inspiring trees. So maybe there is something to this.... ;-)
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September 29, 2009, 10:57 amJimbino says:
Not surprising that Hispanics are abused at Yosemite. About the only place you will find Hispanics, Blacks or American Indians in our national parks and forests is in jobs laboring hard or selling trinkets. You will never see them as guests, depicted in official and travel photos or in films like those of National Geographic or Ken Burns.
The last time I was in Mesa Verde, for instance, there were no persons of these minorities, as far as I could easily tell, among 250 wandering among the ruins. And this smack dab in Indian and Mexican country! At Great Sand Dunes there were no American minorities among 35 guests that day, but I did see a van full of Japanese men.
Our national parks and forests are de-facto racist White Country Clubs financed by our deprived minorities.
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September 29, 2009, 10:57 amSara says:
Well, as a press release title, it worked. Better than “eeoc sues employer.”
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September 29, 2009, 10:58 amPersonFromPorlock says:
Cute if misleading title, but it reminds me of a question I’ve always wanted to ask: if the government can bring an action against a quantity of money in order to seize it, why can’t the money apply for habeas?
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September 29, 2009, 11:04 amerp says:
Jimbino, are you writing for The Onion?
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September 29, 2009, 11:07 amgeokstr says:
The entrances to these parks are obviously patrolled by white supremacist park rangers in hoods, with orders to shoot to kill if they as much as see a person of color or ethnicity within half a mile who is not “laboring” for the white man.
Couldn’t be that those persons of color or ethnicity have other interests and/or priorities on which to spend their time and/or money. Maybe we should have some Democratic congresscritter propose a new “Federal Park Access Reform”, wherein minorities underrepresented as “guests” would be forced to attend. Hey, we could even levy a tax penalty on the ones who refused.
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September 29, 2009, 11:08 amEx parte McCardle says:
One of the great sites in Athens, Georgia, is at the corner of Dearing and Finley Streets: The Tree That Owns Itself. It better be on guard against its employees.
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September 29, 2009, 11:09 amShelbyC says:
Well, appearantly all hispanics in national parks are drug smugglers.
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September 29, 2009, 11:25 amtroll_dc2 says:
I am sure that the EEOC’s lawsuit will get at the root of the problem.
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September 29, 2009, 11:29 amPubliusFL says:
I am sure that the EEOC’s lawsuit will get at the root of the problem.
If the suit is successful, I can see their practice really branching out.
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September 29, 2009, 12:30 pmkdackson says:
If trees don’t have standing, they are timber.
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September 29, 2009, 12:32 pmBill Poser says:
At the risk of being inappropriately serious, you are aware, aren’t you, that in mediaeval Western Europe criminal prosecution of animals actually did take place from time to time? These were not the criminal analog of actions in rem but real criminal prosecutions of individual animals, who on conviction were sentenced to death and executed. The typical case was the prosecution of a pig that had gotten loose and killed a child.
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September 29, 2009, 12:58 pmDoc Merlin says:
The question was raised, that if money can be sued and impounded “why can’t the money apply for habeas.” The answer to this is very simple.
...because it is very obviously and clearly just a trick to be able to steal the money without due process. Its a lawyer’s lie to allow the sort of behavior that the constitution was specifically set about to stop. The judges will rule that habeas only applies to people, which is obvious... but will still allow the lawsuit to be brought against the money.
Making tax law a civil matter is also a way around a lot of protections in the constitution, and allows government to install fines ex-post facto as taxes can be imposed expost facto. This also violates all sorts of other protections we have, such as due process for criminal matters. By making tax law a civil matter, the burden of proof is much lower than in a criminal case, but the fine can still be substantial. The state can then impose “taxes” that are really fines. One example of the “tax” on not having approved health insurance that the congress is proposing, right now is an example of this sort of behavior, and I don’t really see a way around this problem. Another set of examples is the 100% tax on expired gift card/account balances and the huge tax on bonuses paid in the financial industry.
Simply put we need to find a better way to deal with taxes and with civil trials that the government initiates.
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September 29, 2009, 1:00 pmBill Poser says:
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September 29, 2009, 1:00 pmEx parte McCardle says:
Bill Poser: Medieval Europe? Aren’t you familiar with the famous Hanging of Mary the Elephant http://www.blueridgecountry.com/archive/mary-the-elephant.html in Tennessee in 1916?
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September 29, 2009, 1:52 pmBill Poser says:
Ex parte McCardle,
The hanging of Mary the Elephant wasn’t at all the same as the mediaeval cases I am talking about. In those cases, criminal charges were brought by the proper authorities andthe animal was tried in accordance with the procedures of the time and sentenced in accordance with the law. Mary the Elephant was lynched!
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September 29, 2009, 2:28 pmAlan K. Henderson says:
In other news, the maples have filed a class-action antidiscrimination lawsuit against the oaks.
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September 29, 2009, 2:43 pmSkyler says:
Fangorn doesn’t need standing. He’ll just hold and Ent Moot and become a bit hasty.
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September 29, 2009, 3:00 pmDiversityHire says:
That’s the basis for The Hour of the Pig (a.k.a. the Advocate)—one good lawyerin’ movie.
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September 29, 2009, 5:04 pmBill Poser says:
My knowledge of criminal prosecution of animals comes from having read the book: Evans, E. P. (1906, 1987), The Criminal Prosecution and Capital Punishment of Animals, Faber and Faber. ISBN 978–0571148936
I had no idea there was a movie about such an incident.
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September 29, 2009, 6:11 pmChrisTS says:
Trees, shmees. Xerxes had the waters of the Hellespont whipped and ‘chained.’ I doubt there was anything like a trial, of course, as he had executed, summarily, the engineers whose bridge across the Hellespont failed.
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September 29, 2009, 7:06 pm24AheadDotCom says:
That’s (I think) satire, but see:
cnn.com/2009/TRAVEL/09/02/national.parks.minorities/index.html
fs.fed.us/demographics/s4_pp5.htm
And many more. You can buy a yearly pass for $80 good for all NPs and similar; perhaps they could offer half price to someone based on their race.
Meanwhile, it would be great if this site could concentrate on things like the possibility that some or all of the workers were here illegally, and the DOL doesn’t care when caring about things like that could reduce the abuses they complain about.
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September 29, 2009, 7:46 pmMCM says:
23 posts and no ACORN joke yet? I think something got lost in the move to the new host, Professor Volokh.
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September 30, 2009, 1:03 pmkelly says:
Awesome I will bookmark for later. I’ve been flipping houses for years. The best advice is to sell cheap and buy cheaper.
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December 6, 2009, 12:45 pm