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		<title>By: Premature Nobelization — adamwhys</title>
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		<dc:creator>Premature Nobelization — adamwhys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 02:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] money they don&#8217;t have and being rebuffed. A UN initiative jointly sponsored with Egypt that ostensibly promotes free speech but includes ominous provisions criminalizing &#8220;hate speech&amp;#82... which the U.S. does not currently do because of our troublesome First Amendment liberties. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] money they don&#8217;t have and being rebuffed. A UN initiative jointly sponsored with Egypt that ostensibly promotes free speech but includes ominous provisions criminalizing &#8220;hate speech&amp;#82&#8230; which the U.S. does not currently do because of our troublesome First Amendment liberties. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Monday&#8217;s SCOTUS decision sickening &#124; The Daily Caller - Breaking News, Opinion, Research, and Entertainment</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monday&#8217;s SCOTUS decision sickening &#124; The Daily Caller - Breaking News, Opinion, Research, and Entertainment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 04:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In the U.S., college hate-speech codes have been used to discipline students for criticizing affirmative action, writing about the racial implications of the death penalty, and calling homosexu.... Ironically, hate speech laws have often been used against minorities in the Third World, with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In the U.S., college hate-speech codes have been used to discipline students for criticizing affirmative action, writing about the racial implications of the death penalty, and calling homosexu&#8230;. Ironically, hate speech laws have often been used against minorities in the Third World, with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Supreme Court Overturns Life Sentences Without Parole for Violent Juveniles, Citing &#8220;International Opinion&#8221;&#160;&#124;&#160;OpenMarket.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>Supreme Court Overturns Life Sentences Without Parole for Violent Juveniles, Citing &#8220;International Opinion&#8221;&#160;&#124;&#160;OpenMarket.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 17:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In the U.S., college hate-speech codes have been used to discipline students for criticizing affirmative action, writing about the racial implications of the death penalty, and calling homosexu.... Ironically, hate speech laws have often been used against minorities in the Third World, with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In the U.S., college hate-speech codes have been used to discipline students for criticizing affirmative action, writing about the racial implications of the death penalty, and calling homosexu&#8230;. Ironically, hate speech laws have often been used against minorities in the Third World, with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Volokh Conspiracy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The UN Human Rights Council Resolution on Speech and the Flaws of International Human Rights Law</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Volokh Conspiracy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The UN Human Rights Council Resolution on Speech and the Flaws of International Human Rights Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reasons indicated by co-blogger Eugene Volokh (here , here, and here), Jonathan Turley, and others, the resolution does indeed justify gross infringements on freedom of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Volokh Conspiracy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stuart Taylor on Obama Administration’s Endorsement of Restricting “Advocacy of Religious Hatred That Constitutes Incitement to Hostility”</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Volokh Conspiracy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stuart Taylor on Obama Administration’s Endorsement of Restricting “Advocacy of Religious Hatred That Constitutes Incitement to Hostility”</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Obama Administration’s cosponsored U.N. Human Rights Council resolution puts it on record as urging other countries “to take effective measures, consistent with their [...]</description>
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		<title>By: James Leeson</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Leeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the U.S. college hate speech codes have been used to punish college students for criticizing affirmative action, supporting the death penalty against arguments that it is racially biased, and calling homosexuality immoral.  See Brief of Amici Curiae Students for Individual Liberty, et al., in Davis v. Monroe County Board of Education, 1998 WL 847365 (filed in the Supreme Court, December 8, 1998) (citing examples and related news stories) (available in Westlaw database).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the U.S. college hate speech codes have been used to punish college students for criticizing affirmative action, supporting the death penalty against arguments that it is racially biased, and calling homosexuality immoral.  See Brief of Amici Curiae Students for Individual Liberty, et al., in Davis v. Monroe County Board of Education, 1998 WL 847365 (filed in the Supreme Court, December 8, 1998) (citing examples and related news stories) (available in Westlaw database).</p>
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		<title>By: Blawg Review #233 &#124; Popehat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blawg Review #233 &#124; Popehat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 07:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] libertarians, who view the concept of &#8220;defamation of religion&#8221; with great suspicion. Eugene Volokh has some concerns about the revised resolution brokered by the United Sates and Egypt, and Kenneth [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] libertarians, who view the concept of &#8220;defamation of religion&#8221; with great suspicion. Eugene Volokh has some concerns about the revised resolution brokered by the United Sates and Egypt, and Kenneth [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I truly do not understand how U.S. support for this resolution can be squared with the U.S. boycott of Durban II on pretty much the same issue, this very year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly do not understand how U.S. support for this resolution can be squared with the U.S. boycott of Durban II on pretty much the same issue, this very year.</p>
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		<title>By: Dajjal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dajjal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 05:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ambiguity &amp; abstraction are intentional. Fortunately, we have precedents which deliar them. Ban Ki-moon, in condemning the Geert Wilders video, Fitna, said there was no license for hate speech or incitement to violence. His condemnation fits the video&#039;s subject matter, not the video itself. 

The resolution contains boilerplate from previous resolutions, exposing its true purpose. My blog post &quot;Freedom of Opinion and Expression&quot;,includes a list of previous posts which contain some of the details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ambiguity &amp; abstraction are intentional. Fortunately, we have precedents which deliar them. Ban Ki-moon, in condemning the Geert Wilders video, Fitna, said there was no license for hate speech or incitement to violence. His condemnation fits the video&#8217;s subject matter, not the video itself. </p>
<p>The resolution contains boilerplate from previous resolutions, exposing its true purpose. My blog post &#8220;Freedom of Opinion and Expression&#8221;,includes a list of previous posts which contain some of the details.</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Web Watch 09/28/09 – 10/4/09 &#171; EXECUTIVE WATCH</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Web Watch 09/28/09 – 10/4/09 &#171; EXECUTIVE WATCH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wonders whether U.S. involvement with a resolution before the U.N. Human Rights Commission could be a step backwards for U.S. free speech rights.  The resolution, dated 2005, can be read to impose on the U.S. an obligation to suppress hate [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Catching up on random things&#8230; &#187; The Anchoress &#124; A First Things Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catching up on random things&#8230; &#187; The Anchoress &#124; A First Things Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Then again we apparently do want to control this? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Martinned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martinned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-666851&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-666851&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rich Rostrom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Second, there is no chance whatever of the Covenant ever being applied to the corrupt dictatorships, terrorism supporters, political demagogues, and pseudo-religious fascists that are the main emitters of “hate speech”. It is very likely to be used against honest critics of Islamic culture; it will never be used against the government of Syria for publishing the blood libel against Jews.
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You do realise the Covenant, i.e. the ICCPR, and its brother the ICESCR, have been around for several decades already? They have nothing to do with the Human Rights Council and are not, on the whole, the topic of conversation here.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-666851" rel="nofollow">Rich Rostrom</a></strong>: Second, there is no chance whatever of the Covenant ever being applied to the corrupt dictatorships, terrorism supporters, political demagogues, and pseudo-religious fascists that are the main emitters of “hate speech”. It is very likely to be used against honest critics of Islamic culture; it will never be used against the government of Syria for publishing the blood libel against Jews.
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<p>You do realise the Covenant, i.e. the ICCPR, and its brother the ICESCR, have been around for several decades already? They have nothing to do with the Human Rights Council and are not, on the whole, the topic of conversation here.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 05:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suppressing political speech encourages political violence.</description>
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		<title>By: Rich Rostrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Rostrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 05:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The United States should not officially support, as matter of principle, policies or enactments which contradict our own fundamental laws and principles.

Second, there is no chance whatever of the Covenant ever being applied to the corrupt dictatorships, terrorism supporters, political demagogues, and pseudo-religious fascists that are the main emitters of &quot;hate speech&quot;. It is very likely to be used against honest critics of Islamic culture; it will never be used against the government of Syria for publishing the blood libel against Jews.

It will deform and weaken the societies of many countries which do not have robust civil liberties. It will do nothing to detoxify the hate-filled societies which spawn terrorism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The United States should not officially support, as matter of principle, policies or enactments which contradict our own fundamental laws and principles.</p>
<p>Second, there is no chance whatever of the Covenant ever being applied to the corrupt dictatorships, terrorism supporters, political demagogues, and pseudo-religious fascists that are the main emitters of &#8220;hate speech&#8221;. It is very likely to be used against honest critics of Islamic culture; it will never be used against the government of Syria for publishing the blood libel against Jews.</p>
<p>It will deform and weaken the societies of many countries which do not have robust civil liberties. It will do nothing to detoxify the hate-filled societies which spawn terrorism.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 03:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-666325&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-666325&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pablo panadero&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: With many on the Supreme Court willing to cite “international law” as a foundation of their decisions, this is merely the back door to imposing this restriction of liberty on US citizens.
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I agree reference to foreign law has no place in First Amendment jurisprudence in the U.S.  Accordingly, the Supreme Court&#039;s decisions that refer to the practices of other countries in outlawing obscenity (Miller v. U.S., IIRC made such an explicit reference) should be revisited.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-666325" rel="nofollow">pablo panadero</a></strong>: With many on the Supreme Court willing to cite “international law” as a foundation of their decisions, this is merely the back door to imposing this restriction of liberty on US citizens.
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<p>I agree reference to foreign law has no place in First Amendment jurisprudence in the U.S.  Accordingly, the Supreme Court&#8217;s decisions that refer to the practices of other countries in outlawing obscenity (Miller v. U.S., IIRC made such an explicit reference) should be revisited.</p>
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		<title>By: Mithras</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mithras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And did you know the Democrats are just waiting to reimpose the Fairness Doctrine and make Glenn Beck illegal?? 

It&#039;s true! I saw speculation about it on some rightwing website someplace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And did you know the Democrats are just waiting to reimpose the Fairness Doctrine and make Glenn Beck illegal?? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s true! I saw speculation about it on some rightwing website someplace.</p>
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		<title>By: Daily Right 10/2/09 &#171; The Quantum Conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daily Right 10/2/09 &#171; The Quantum Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] *Is the Obama Administration Supporting Calls to Outlaw Supposed Hate Speech? By Eugene Volokh. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Constitutionalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constitutionalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-666185&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Northern Dave&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Correct me if I’ve got the summary wrong, but isn’t it part of the Official Summary of H.R.262 that:“Requires the head of each federal agency to establish prevention, treatment, and rehabilitation programs and services relating to hate crimes for employees.”I’m trying to see how this in combination with support of the HRC resolution in question would apply to some wee Southern Baptist Tresury Bookeeper who refused to agree that all systems of thought were equally valid. Would she be sent to a re-education center? Who gets to determine the curriculum?……..I guess I’m trying to get a handle on the package.(Currently here in Canada there seems to be a stepping away from the brink: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/hate-speech-law-violates-charter-rights-tribunal-rules/article1273956/)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/hate-speech-law-violates-charter-rights-tribunal-rules/article1273956/)&lt;/A&gt;
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I would guess they think this resolution would give them the legal imprimatur to force the &quot;rehabilitation&quot; of any individual guilty of &quot;hate&quot; speech (i.e., any speech counter to their agenda).  For some reason, it doesn&#039;t surprise me any that this administration would jump on board something like this.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-666185" rel="nofollow">Northern Dave</a></strong>: Correct me if I’ve got the summary wrong, but isn’t it part of the Official Summary of H.R.262 that:“Requires the head of each federal agency to establish prevention, treatment, and rehabilitation programs and services relating to hate crimes for employees.”I’m trying to see how this in combination with support of the HRC resolution in question would apply to some wee Southern Baptist Tresury Bookeeper who refused to agree that all systems of thought were equally valid. Would she be sent to a re-education center? Who gets to determine the curriculum?……..I guess I’m trying to get a handle on the package.(Currently here in Canada there seems to be a stepping away from the brink: <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/hate-speech-law-violates-charter-rights-tribunal-rules/article1273956/)" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/hate-speech-law-violates-charter-rights-tribunal-rules/article1273956/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/hate-speech-law-violates-charter-rights-tribunal-rules/article1273956/</a>)
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<p>I would guess they think this resolution would give them the legal imprimatur to force the &#8220;rehabilitation&#8221; of any individual guilty of &#8220;hate&#8221; speech (i.e., any speech counter to their agenda).  For some reason, it doesn&#8217;t surprise me any that this administration would jump on board something like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Martinned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martinned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-666449&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Montjoie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I’m pretty sure I’ve seen case law holding that a treaty that violates Americans’ Constitutional rights is void. Maybe time to pull that one out again? I don’t have the cite at my fingertips, though.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Here&#039;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/article02/10.html#13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;findlaw annotation on the matter&lt;/a&gt;, including plenty of case law.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-666449" rel="nofollow">Montjoie</a></strong>: I’m pretty sure I’ve seen case law holding that a treaty that violates Americans’ Constitutional rights is void. Maybe time to pull that one out again? I don’t have the cite at my fingertips, though.
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<p>Here&#8217;s the <a href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/article02/10.html#13" rel="nofollow">findlaw annotation on the matter</a>, including plenty of case law.</p>
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		<title>By: Montjoie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Montjoie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;ve seen case law holding that a treaty that violates Americans&#039; Constitutional rights is void.  Maybe time to pull that one out again?  I don&#039;t have the cite at my fingertips, though.</description>
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		<title>By: ADF Alliance Alert &#187; Is the Obama administration supporting calls to outlaw supposed hate speech?</title>
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		<dc:creator>ADF Alliance Alert &#187; Is the Obama administration supporting calls to outlaw supposed hate speech?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Eugene Volokh: &#8220;That’s what it looks like, with this Joint U.S./Egypt draft U.N. Human Rights Council resolution (dated Sept. 2005) . . . I’m worried that it might be a step backward for our own constitutional rights, because of what seems to be the U.S. endorsement of the suppression of &#8216;any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence&#8217; and possibly of &#8216;negative stereotyping of religions and racial groups.&#8217;&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Eugene Volokh: &#8220;That’s what it looks like, with this Joint U.S./Egypt draft U.N. Human Rights Council resolution (dated Sept. 2005) . . . I’m worried that it might be a step backward for our own constitutional rights, because of what seems to be the U.S. endorsement of the suppression of &#8216;any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence&#8217; and possibly of &#8216;negative stereotyping of religions and racial groups.&#8217;&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Obama administration supporting a global ban on &#8220;hate speech&#8221; &#171; Internet Scofflaw</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/10/01/is-the-obama-administration-supporting-calls-to-suppress-supposed-hate-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-666407</link>
		<dc:creator>Obama administration supporting a global ban on &#8220;hate speech&#8221; &#171; Internet Scofflaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] administration supporting a global ban on &#8220;hate&#160;speech&#8221;  More evidence of the administration&#8217;s ambivalence towards free [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SuperSkeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>SuperSkeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;hopemongering&quot;

LOL - I dare say Professor Volokh just coined a great new term.</description>
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<p>LOL &#8211; I dare say Professor Volokh just coined a great new term.</p>
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		<title>By: bandit</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/10/01/is-the-obama-administration-supporting-calls-to-suppress-supposed-hate-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-666369</link>
		<dc:creator>bandit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at the comments on HuffPo and almost every one supports criminalizing any speech they don&#039;t agree with - the new totalitarians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at the comments on HuffPo and almost every one supports criminalizing any speech they don&#8217;t agree with &#8211; the new totalitarians.</p>
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		<title>By: Billll</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/10/01/is-the-obama-administration-supporting-calls-to-suppress-supposed-hate-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-666361</link>
		<dc:creator>Billll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would not paragraph 4 immediately ban the practice of Islam, and the publication of the Koran?</description>
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		<title>By: Howard Friedman</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/10/01/is-the-obama-administration-supporting-calls-to-suppress-supposed-hate-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-666350</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note a typo in your citation-- the date of the document is Sept. 2009, not Sept. 2005.  [Whoops, fixed, thanks!]</description>
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		<title>By: JDS13</title>
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		<dc:creator>JDS13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe the UN will pass this without an exception to allow defamation of Israel.</description>
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		<title>By: Bilwick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember, there&#039;s really no such thing as &quot;paranoia&quot; when dealing with statists. Any power they can grab, eventually they will grab.
I think it was Glenn Reynolds of Instapundit who said that first it&#039;s &quot;No one is seriously advocating {X] . . . &quot; and then it becomes, &quot;What would be so bad about having [X] . . . ?&quot; I would add that then it becomes: &quot;Only a moron/racist/bought dog of the capitalists (take your pick) would oppose {X] . . . &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember, there&#8217;s really no such thing as &#8220;paranoia&#8221; when dealing with statists. Any power they can grab, eventually they will grab.<br />
I think it was Glenn Reynolds of Instapundit who said that first it&#8217;s &#8220;No one is seriously advocating {X] . . . &#8221; and then it becomes, &#8220;What would be so bad about having [X] . . . ?&#8221; I would add that then it becomes: &#8220;Only a moron/racist/bought dog of the capitalists (take your pick) would oppose {X] . . . &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: pablo panadero</title>
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		<dc:creator>pablo panadero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With many on the Supreme Court willing to cite &quot;international law&quot; as a foundation of their decisions, this is merely the back door to imposing this restriction of liberty on US citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With many on the Supreme Court willing to cite &#8220;international law&#8221; as a foundation of their decisions, this is merely the back door to imposing this restriction of liberty on US citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: Instapundit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; EUGENE VOLOKH: Is the Obama Administration Supporting Calls to Outlaw Supposed Hate Speech? Given &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Instapundit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; EUGENE VOLOKH: Is the Obama Administration Supporting Calls to Outlaw Supposed Hate Speech? Given &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] VOLOKH: Is the Obama Administration Supporting Calls to Outlaw Supposed Hate Speech? Given their record of calling anyone who disagrees with them racist, it seems likely . . . [...]</description>
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		<title>By: billo</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/10/01/is-the-obama-administration-supporting-calls-to-suppress-supposed-hate-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-666295</link>
		<dc:creator>billo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In the US, the answer would be:
1. Never
2. Nothing
3. None
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Well, no.</description>
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		<title>By: Martinned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martinned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-666208&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-666208&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Joe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Future liberal academics and judges will cite resolutions like this to claim the existence of a “compelling interest” in banning “hate speech” that overrides free speech rights.Cf. Roberts v. Jaycees (1984) (Supreme Court held that compelling interest in eradicating discrimination overrode First Amendment freedom of expressive association); Bob Jones Univ. v. U.S. (holding that consensus against racial discrimination created compelling interest that overrode college’s First Amendment rights); but see Boy Scouts v. Dale (2000) (5-to-4 ruling refusing to allow state interest in discrimination to override freedom of expressive association).The problem with that is that the definitions of hate speech employed by international bodies, UN agencies, and Third World judiciaries are grossly overbroad.Worse, “hate speech” laws are commonly used in Third World countries to suppress advocacy of the rights of ethnic and linguistic minority groups.In practice, hate speech laws are used in most of the world to silence dissent, not protect vulnerable minorities.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I thought the problem with those activist judges was that they vote their policy preferences regardless of whether they have any legal excuse to do so? In that case, how would this resolution make things worse? If there are five votes on the Supreme Court to exempt hate speech from first amendment protection, they don&#039;t need a UN HRC resolution to give them an excuse, they can just make up the exception out of whole cloth, like they did with all the other exceptions. Given the power of the US Supreme Court, there&#039;s very little that can restrain them if five of them agree.

This draft resolution is full of good things, but it is not law. And it&#039;s not meant to be, either. The &quot;hate speech&quot; line that EV quoted (scare quotes because I&#039;m not sure that hate speech is the best way to describe it) is to be applied in the context of the constitutional tradition of every state. In Saudi-Arabia, you get caned for insulting Mohammed, in the US you get a strongly worded editorial in the New York Times.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-666208" rel="nofollow">Joe</a></strong>: Future liberal academics and judges will cite resolutions like this to claim the existence of a “compelling interest” in banning “hate speech” that overrides free speech rights.Cf. Roberts v. Jaycees (1984) (Supreme Court held that compelling interest in eradicating discrimination overrode First Amendment freedom of expressive association); Bob Jones Univ. v. U.S. (holding that consensus against racial discrimination created compelling interest that overrode college’s First Amendment rights); but see Boy Scouts v. Dale (2000) (5-to-4 ruling refusing to allow state interest in discrimination to override freedom of expressive association).The problem with that is that the definitions of hate speech employed by international bodies, UN agencies, and Third World judiciaries are grossly overbroad.Worse, “hate speech” laws are commonly used in Third World countries to suppress advocacy of the rights of ethnic and linguistic minority groups.In practice, hate speech laws are used in most of the world to silence dissent, not protect vulnerable minorities.</p>
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<p>I thought the problem with those activist judges was that they vote their policy preferences regardless of whether they have any legal excuse to do so? In that case, how would this resolution make things worse? If there are five votes on the Supreme Court to exempt hate speech from first amendment protection, they don&#8217;t need a UN HRC resolution to give them an excuse, they can just make up the exception out of whole cloth, like they did with all the other exceptions. Given the power of the US Supreme Court, there&#8217;s very little that can restrain them if five of them agree.</p>
<p>This draft resolution is full of good things, but it is not law. And it&#8217;s not meant to be, either. The &#8220;hate speech&#8221; line that EV quoted (scare quotes because I&#8217;m not sure that hate speech is the best way to describe it) is to be applied in the context of the constitutional tradition of every state. In Saudi-Arabia, you get caned for insulting Mohammed, in the US you get a strongly worded editorial in the New York Times.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarcastro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarcastro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You nuance people are dumb to give up this obvious chance to yell about how the left wants to silence us all like a Muslim Hitler would.  Arguments are for suckers who like to type a lot.

[Also, at this early hour I totally read &quot;deranged lobster of the discourse.&quot;  It was a pretty awesome half a second before I corrected.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You nuance people are dumb to give up this obvious chance to yell about how the left wants to silence us all like a Muslim Hitler would.  Arguments are for suckers who like to type a lot.</p>
<p>[Also, at this early hour I totally read "deranged lobster of the discourse."  It was a pretty awesome half a second before I corrected.]</p>
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		<title>By: Ricardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-666273&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-666273&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Relic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Hate to break it to you, but requiring a protest permit,and limiting the protest’s reach isn’t a new thing. 
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Never said otherwise, so no need to regret breaking the news.  Rather, I was amused that a commenter felt that &quot;free speech zones&quot; were some kind of leftist ploy and was seemingly oblivious to the widespread use of such zones by the Secret Service under the Bush Administration.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-666273" rel="nofollow">Relic</a></strong>: Hate to break it to you, but requiring a protest permit,and limiting the protest’s reach isn’t a new thing.
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<p>Never said otherwise, so no need to regret breaking the news.  Rather, I was amused that a commenter felt that &#8220;free speech zones&#8221; were some kind of leftist ploy and was seemingly oblivious to the widespread use of such zones by the Secret Service under the Bush Administration.</p>
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		<title>By: Cato The Elder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cato The Elder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-666244&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mithras&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: So what’s the point of this post? Volokh: “Maybe I can gin up a fake controversy like Bernstein did about that HRW guy.”
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I daresay the good professor has been invaded with the spirit of Glenn Beck, that deranged destroyer of the discourse.  To the stakes!  To the kindling!  To the Star Chamber!</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-666244" rel="nofollow">Mithras</a></strong>: So what’s the point of this post? Volokh: “Maybe I can gin up a fake controversy like Bernstein did about that HRW guy.”
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<p>I daresay the good professor has been invaded with the spirit of Glenn Beck, that deranged destroyer of the discourse.  To the stakes!  To the kindling!  To the Star Chamber!</p>
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