Comments on: When Did Sex Offenders Have to Register? http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/ Commentary on law, public policy, and more Tue, 08 May 2012 01:46:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: call of duty 4 cheats http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-801373 call of duty 4 cheats Fri, 16 Apr 2010 00:17:27 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-801373 It can be as simple as just corrupting the data or even as dangerous as stealing information from the PC that is targeted and sending across that information to someone else. They should know the threats posed by such malwares. It can result the details of their bank account along with the password or their credit card details to fall in wrong hands. It is high time that they took preventive action to protect their computer against such attacks by downloading and installing some anti-virus software. It can be as simple as just corrupting the data or even as dangerous as stealing information from the PC that is targeted and sending across that information to someone else. They should know the threats posed by such malwares. It can result the details of their bank account along with the password or their credit card details to fall in wrong hands. It is high time that they took preventive action to protect their computer against such attacks by downloading and installing some anti-virus software.

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]]> By: Keith Richard Radford Jr http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-676655 Keith Richard Radford Jr Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:36:36 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-676655 <strong>Should churches or our federal government be held libel for the murder of sex offenders? Sex laws have been built on misconceptions and myth. The Supreme Court just ruled on sex offender laws where some factions of our government think by some inert reasoning that sex offender should be quarantined like some virus steaming from Draconian/Islamic radical view that sex offenders should be executed. I have seen for myself, video taken in another country where a sex offender was placed on a pole much like the Catholics use to use a pyramid shaped object and have them sit on it and spin, the pole travels through the body looking for the throat but if not found its ok because the sharpened end of the pole will come out somewhere to the delight of these very strange people who think such sad thoughts. The heritage of the act is in its self a brutal throwback to violent uneducated people who are so obsessed with any sex they can find & the only way to deal with this kind of "hierarchy" of historic hysteria. A word taken from hysterectomy, hysteria is tied to castration used to make animals less threatening which clearly explains the atmosphere we have made for our selves. Anyway we are supposed to be the most advanced nation and we still have a death penalty when the rest of the world except for some nations we are still warring with, selling weapons too, {think!} while other nations went home our weapons dealers and torture lovers delighting in support for the death of people they don’t know or want to simply because they don’t know how to get money with out taking it from someone by force. Is that supposed to include mutilations? In my humble opinion that alone are terrorist activities as much as severed hands, ears, heads, or making a case with nothing more than an obsession justified by lies. The truth about the sex offender registry will come out soon enough. When it does, People will see how the use of the registry was created, and by exactly who and why and the devastation it has created and the worthlessness of the use of it. It’s origin in the Jim Crow hanging laws that brought disgrace to our nation allowing thieves and murderous societal bigots who have trashed any shot at making good of a program in its design to make money destroying our nation and its people. We can not play god and we can not survive using this behavior model because we are compounding the problem since the numbers increasing to include the children they purport to protect. It's a ruse designed by people who are getting rich off the doctoring, castration/hysterectomy/health care/physic care of people through sex laws that have gone wild. What about the people who are being used by the Medicare programs that requires these mutilations for both men and woman after they take their means of support? Digging around in someone’s genitalia because you want what a weaker nation? Can't you see? You have created the model and it is worthless! Why don't we just indiscriminately kill people we don't know? That is statically the next sex offender, because over 90% of all new offences are committed by someone “not” on the sex offender registry and the numbers are increasing not decreasing so as a behavior model this is really worthless. So what is the use of such laws as the sex offender registry other than to terrorize people? With the murder of so many sex offenders and the continued disregard for life by the use of the registry it will be no time at all before the federal government will be held liable for their deaths through federal court. In a nation where a statement may have a double or triple meaning and our entire linage can be traced through mud, guts, and beer it’s nice once in a while to get the picture of what is meant instead of what some thinks someone may have implied being translated by greed. So it is from the trenches to the hill. Remember the game where someone says something in someone’s ear then passes it the same way to the next; the person advocating such destructive laws are the ones who need to be section 8 by simple brake down of the issue not the sex offenders.</strong> Should churches or our federal government be held libel for the murder of sex offenders?
Sex laws have been built on misconceptions and myth.
The Supreme Court just ruled on sex offender laws where some factions of our government think by some inert reasoning that sex offender should be quarantined like some virus steaming from Draconian/Islamic radical view that sex offenders should be executed. I have seen for myself, video taken in another country where a sex offender was placed on a pole much like the Catholics use to use a pyramid shaped object and have them sit on it and spin, the pole travels through the body looking for the throat but if not found its ok because the sharpened end of the pole will come out somewhere to the delight of these very strange people who think such sad thoughts. The heritage of the act is in its self a brutal throwback to violent uneducated people who are so obsessed with any sex they can find & the only way to deal with this kind of “hierarchy” of historic hysteria. A word taken from hysterectomy, hysteria is tied to castration used to make animals less threatening which clearly explains the atmosphere we have made for our selves.
Anyway we are supposed to be the most advanced nation and we still have a death penalty when the rest of the world except for some nations we are still warring with, selling weapons too, {think!} while other nations went home our weapons dealers and torture lovers delighting in support for the death of people they don’t know or want to simply because they don’t know how to get money with out taking it from someone by force. Is that supposed to include mutilations? In my humble opinion that alone are terrorist activities as much as severed hands, ears, heads, or making a case with nothing more than an obsession justified by lies.
The truth about the sex offender registry will come out soon enough. When it does, People will see how the use of the registry was created, and by exactly who and why and the devastation it has created and the worthlessness of the use of it. It’s origin in the Jim Crow hanging laws that brought disgrace to our nation allowing thieves and murderous societal bigots who have trashed any shot at making good of a program in its design to make money destroying our nation and its people. We can not play god and we can not survive using this behavior model because we are compounding the problem since the numbers increasing to include the children they purport to protect.
It’s a ruse designed by people who are getting rich off the doctoring, castration/hysterectomy/health care/physic care of people through sex laws that have gone wild. What about the people who are being used by the Medicare programs that requires these mutilations for both men and woman after they take their means of support? Digging around in someone’s genitalia because you want what a weaker nation? Can’t you see? You have created the model and it is worthless! Why don’t we just indiscriminately kill people we don’t know? That is statically the next sex offender, because over 90% of all new offences are committed by someone “not” on the sex offender registry and the numbers are increasing not decreasing so as a behavior model this is really worthless.
So what is the use of such laws as the sex offender registry other than to terrorize people? With the murder of so many sex offenders and the continued disregard for life by the use of the registry it will be no time at all before the federal government will be held liable for their deaths through federal court.
In a nation where a statement may have a double or triple meaning and our entire linage can be traced through mud, guts, and beer it’s nice once in a while to get the picture of what is meant instead of what some thinks someone may have implied being translated by greed. So it is from the trenches to the hill. Remember the game where someone says something in someone’s ear then passes it the same way to the next; the person advocating such destructive laws are the ones who need to be section 8 by simple brake down of the issue not the sex offenders.

]]> By: ChrisTS http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-672219 ChrisTS Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:46:24 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-672219 I think we are all missing an important fundamental point here: God was not elected; hence, neither Adam nor Eve consented to his laws. I think we are all missing an important fundamental point here: God was not elected; hence, neither Adam nor Eve consented to his laws.

]]> By: speedwell http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671987 speedwell Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:58:09 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671987 <i>Eating the apple...</i> You guys are awesome. :D Eating the apple…

You guys are awesome. :D

]]> By: Just Dropping By http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671788 Just Dropping By Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:17:18 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671788 <blockquote cite="comment-671612"> <strong><a href="#comment-671612" rel="nofollow">CDU</a></strong>: Eve gets a bum rap. Eating someone else’s apple is at best a misdemeanor. </blockquote> Eating the apple gave her knowledge of good and evil, which was previously a trade secret of God, so she could potentially be guilty of a felony for violating the Economic Espionage Act, 18 U.S.C. § 1832. (And even if Eve was arguably innocent of a violation of the Act when she <b>received</b> the apple from the serpent, she would still be guilty of violating it when she <i>gave</i> the apple to Adam.)

CDU: Eve gets a bum rap. Eating someone else’s apple is at best a misdemeanor.

Eating the apple gave her knowledge of good and evil, which was previously a trade secret of God, so she could potentially be guilty of a felony for violating the Economic Espionage Act, 18 U.S.C. § 1832. (And even if Eve was arguably innocent of a violation of the Act when she received the apple from the serpent, she would still be guilty of violating it when she gave the apple to Adam.)

]]> By: Daniel Chapman http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671776 Daniel Chapman Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:46:59 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671776 The honor belongs to Cain only if you don't count "Don't eat the damn apple" as a law that could be broken. I'm probably reading too much into this little debate, but really? Isn't this obvious? The honor belongs to Cain only if you don’t count “Don’t eat the damn apple” as a law that could be broken.

I’m probably reading too much into this little debate, but really? Isn’t this obvious?

]]> By: SuperSkeptic http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671736 SuperSkeptic Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:25:50 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671736 <blockquote cite="comment-671564"> <strong><a href="#comment-671564" rel="nofollow">Jonathan H. Adler</a></strong>: The jurisdictional hook for portions of the act are that they apply when sex offenders cross state lines. </blockquote> This is suspect to me. Its unquestioned because it's a good idea, tracking sex offenders, but it logically allows for much, much more. Would it be okay to have a federal registry of those with traffic tickets? Or trespassers? I would characterize Eve's acts as tresspassing and conversion - not theft, hence civil and not criminal, leaving the honor to Cain.

Jonathan H. Adler: The jurisdictional hook for portions of the act are that they apply when sex offenders cross state lines.

This is suspect to me. Its unquestioned because it’s a good idea, tracking sex offenders, but it logically allows for much, much more. Would it be okay to have a federal registry of those with traffic tickets? Or trespassers?

I would characterize Eve’s acts as tresspassing and conversion – not theft, hence civil and not criminal, leaving the honor to Cain.

]]> By: SeaDrive http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671643 SeaDrive Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:45:03 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671643 IANAL, so tell me if I have this straight. Prosecution: Sex offender fails to register; wily defense counsel tries to free him on technicality. Defense: Government fails to do it's paperwork; indicts sex offender for not doing his. Volokh Conspiracy: Congress writes vague law; Government screws up; DA indicts sex offender for not complying with legal situation so vague that it goes to the U.S. Court of Appeals and perhaps the Supreme Court. As I say, IANAL, and I'm glad. IANAL, so tell me if I have this straight.

Prosecution: Sex offender fails to register; wily defense counsel tries to free him on technicality.

Defense: Government fails to do it’s paperwork; indicts sex offender for not doing his.

Volokh Conspiracy: Congress writes vague law; Government screws up; DA indicts sex offender for not complying with legal situation so vague that it goes to the U.S. Court of Appeals and perhaps the Supreme Court.

As I say, IANAL, and I’m glad.

]]> By: Soronel Haetir http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671640 Soronel Haetir Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:39:21 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671640 Wouldn't the apple be more like a bailment? The tree was left in Eden but Adam and Eve were told not to partake. Eating the apple would seem like an act of conversion. The main sticking point would seem to be whether A&E actually agreed not to eat apples, even there a good argument could be made for vastly inequitable bargaining positions. Wouldn’t the apple be more like a bailment? The tree was left in Eden but Adam and Eve were told not to partake. Eating the apple would seem like an act of conversion. The main sticking point would seem to be whether A&E actually agreed not to eat apples, even there a good argument could be made for vastly inequitable bargaining positions.

]]> By: ChrisTS http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671627 ChrisTS Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:03:13 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671627 <blockquote cite="comment-671612"> <strong><a href="#comment-671612" rel="nofollow">CDU</a></strong>: Eve gets a bum rap. Eating someone else’s apple is at best a misdemeanor. </blockquote> The serpent gave it to her. At worst, she was in receipt of stolen goods.

CDU: Eve gets a bum rap. Eating someone else’s apple is at best a misdemeanor.

The serpent gave it to her. At worst, she was in receipt of stolen goods.

]]> By: Dave N http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671615 Dave N Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:31:20 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671615 While I agree <em>United States v. Cain</em> is cool for a criminal case, the best case name of all time is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia" rel="nofollow"><em>Loving v. Virginia</em></a>, which, of course, invalidated Virginia's anti-misgenation statute. While I agree United States v. Cain is cool for a criminal case, the best case name of all time is Loving v. Virginia, which, of course, invalidated Virginia’s anti-misgenation statute.

]]> By: egd http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671613 egd Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:27:50 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671613 <blockquote cite="comment-671596"> <strong><a href="#comment-671596" rel="nofollow">CDU</a></strong>: the issue is whether the travel in interstate commerce section is retroactive. </blockquote> Obviously the law should be strengthened so that any individual who affects travel in interstate commerce should be covered. Gets rid of all those pesky federalism issues.

CDU: the issue is whether the travel in interstate commerce section is retroactive.

Obviously the law should be strengthened so that any individual who affects travel in interstate commerce should be covered. Gets rid of all those pesky federalism issues.

]]> By: CDU http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671612 CDU Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:27:21 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671612 <blockquote cite="comment-671606"> <strong><a href="#comment-671606" rel="nofollow">Thorley Winston</a></strong>: Wouldn’t that actually be Eve? </blockquote> Eve gets a bum rap. Eating someone else's apple is at best a misdemeanor.

Thorley Winston:
Wouldn’t that actually be Eve?

Eve gets a bum rap. Eating someone else’s apple is at best a misdemeanor.

]]> By: Thorley Winston http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671606 Thorley Winston Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:21:44 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671606 <blockquote cite="comment-671580"> <strong><a href="#comment-671580" rel="nofollow">Cato The Elder</a></strong>: Nice last name for the appellant…can the United States really afford to lose this one? We’re talking the very first criminal here. </blockquote> Wouldn't that actually be Eve?

Cato The Elder: Nice last name for the appellant…can the United States really afford to lose this one? We’re talking the very first criminal here.

Wouldn’t that actually be Eve?

]]> By: Lior http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671604 Lior Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:20:26 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671604 Can a person really <i>travel in interstate commerce</i>? I thought the buying and selling of people is at the moment against US law? Can a person really travel in interstate commerce? I thought the buying and selling of people is at the moment against US law?

]]> By: CDU http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671596 CDU Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:58:53 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671596 Carr v. United States seems to be focusing on a different issue. In that case, the sex offender in question traveled before SORNA was passed, so the issue is whether the travel in interstate commerce section is retroactive. In Cain the issue is focused on interstate travel during the period between the passage of the law and when the Attorney General issued a regulation concerning people convicted before the law's passage. A Supreme Court decision in Carr won't necessarily decide the issue in Cain. Carr v. United States seems to be focusing on a different issue. In that case, the sex offender in question traveled before SORNA was passed, so the issue is whether the travel in interstate commerce section is retroactive. In Cain the issue is focused on interstate travel during the period between the passage of the law and when the Attorney General issued a regulation concerning people convicted before the law’s passage. A Supreme Court decision in Carr won’t necessarily decide the issue in Cain.

]]> By: Hardly Surprised http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671593 Hardly Surprised Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:52:59 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671593 Carr has to do with those who traveled in interstate commerce before SORNA's enactment. This case, as I understand it, has to do with those who were convicted of a qualifying sex offense before the statute's enactment. Carr has to do with those who traveled in interstate commerce before SORNA’s enactment. This case, as I understand it, has to do with those who were convicted of a qualifying sex offense before the statute’s enactment.

]]> By: Orin Kerr http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671586 Orin Kerr Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:33:56 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671586 I have the same question as Paul. See <a href="http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/08-1301_pet.pdf" rel="nofollow">Carr v. United States</a>, which the Court granted two weeks ago. I have the same question as Paul. See Carr v. United States, which the Court granted two weeks ago.

]]> By: Cato The Elder http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671580 Cato The Elder Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:25:13 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671580 Nice last name for the appellant...can the United States really afford to lose this one? We're talking the very first criminal here. Nice last name for the appellant…can the United States really afford to lose this one? We’re talking the very first criminal here.

]]> By: Oren http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671576 Oren Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:21:07 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671576 <blockquote>There was a day when I could own a machine gun without any paperwork. Times change. </blockquote> Hard to believe you were 18 back in 1934.

There was a day when I could own a machine gun without any paperwork. Times change.

Hard to believe you were 18 back in 1934.

]]> By: Burt Fisher http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671565 Burt Fisher Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:48:58 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671565 There was a day when I could own a machine gun without any paperwork. Times change. There was a day when I could own a machine gun without any paperwork. Times change.

]]> By: Jonathan H. Adler http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671564 Jonathan H. Adler Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:47:26 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671564 SORNA is Title I of the Adam Walsh Act. The jurisdictional hook for portions of the act are that they apply when sex offenders cross state lines. I had forgotten about Carr, which I think raises a slightly different question (although there is some overlap). So this case could actually make three. JHA SORNA is Title I of the Adam Walsh Act.

The jurisdictional hook for portions of the act are that they apply when sex offenders cross state lines.

I had forgotten about Carr, which I think raises a slightly different question (although there is some overlap). So this case could actually make three.

JHA

]]> By: SuperSkeptic http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671562 SuperSkeptic Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:45:36 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671562 <em>Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006.</em> or <em>federal Sexual Offenders Registration and Notification Act (SORNA)</em> What is the federal constitutional/jurisdictional hook for a law like this? Please tell me it isn't sex offenders engaging in interstate commerce? Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006.
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federal Sexual Offenders Registration and Notification Act (SORNA)

What is the federal constitutional/jurisdictional hook for a law like this? Please tell me it isn’t sex offenders engaging in interstate commerce?

]]> By: paul http://volokh.com/2009/10/13/when-did-sex-offenders-have-to-register/comment-page-1/#comment-671560 paul Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:42:52 +0000 http://volokh.com/?p=20002#comment-671560 See Carr v. US. Didn't scotus already grant on this? See Carr v. US. Didn’t scotus already grant on this?

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