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	<title>Comments on: Prof. Jones Drops Lawsuit Against Above The Law</title>
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		<title>By: NickM</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/11/04/prof-jones-drops-lawsuit-against-above-the-law/comment-page-1/#comment-683805</link>
		<dc:creator>NickM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-683731&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-683731&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cassandra&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Sadly, I do not think that U of M has a civ pro prof that would give him that advice. Alfieri is it only one who actually knows the rules of civil procedure and he does not like Jones. The other civ pro proffs are academics on the outs with the present administration stuck teaching it, they would do no better in a real court of law than professor Jones.
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They could probably at least use proper spelling and grammar.

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<p><strong><a href="#comment-683731" rel="nofollow">Cassandra</a></strong>: Sadly, I do not think that U of M has a civ pro prof that would give him that advice. Alfieri is it only one who actually knows the rules of civil procedure and he does not like Jones. The other civ pro proffs are academics on the outs with the present administration stuck teaching it, they would do no better in a real court of law than professor Jones.
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<p>They could probably at least use proper spelling and grammar.</p>
<p>Nick</p>
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		<title>By: Cassandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-683550&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-683550&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dudeman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
With the Rule 11 Safe Harbor sanctions were unlikely:Faculty Lounge, yesterday morning:Civ. Pro. Prof: Hey Jones, dismiss that pile of crap you filed or you’re gonna pay ATL’s attorney fees.Jones: No way man, they violated my rights!Civ. Pro. Prof: ATL’s attorney charges $300 an&#160;hour.Jones:I gotta go do somethin’....

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Sadly, I do not think that U of M has a civ pro prof that would give him that advice.  Alfieri is it only one who actually knows the rules of civil procedure and he does not like Jones.  The other civ pro proffs are academics on the outs with the present administration stuck teaching it, they would do no better in a real court of law than professor Jones.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-683550" rel="nofollow">Dudeman</a></strong>:<br />
With the Rule 11 Safe Harbor sanctions were unlikely:Faculty Lounge, yesterday morning:Civ. Pro. Prof: Hey Jones, dismiss that pile of crap you filed or you’re gonna pay ATL’s attorney fees.Jones: No way man, they violated my rights!Civ. Pro. Prof: ATL’s attorney charges $300 an hour.Jones:I gotta go do somethin’....</p>
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<p>Sadly, I do not think that U of M has a civ pro prof that would give him that advice.  Alfieri is it only one who actually knows the rules of civil procedure and he does not like Jones.  The other civ pro proffs are academics on the outs with the present administration stuck teaching it, they would do no better in a real court of law than professor Jones.</p>
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		<title>By: wfjag</title>
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		<dc:creator>wfjag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Steve&lt;/strong&gt; says:
The sanctimonious speech by the lawyer is a bit much.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Be charitable:

1.  An uncontested win is still a win;
2.  The attorney needs to generate business, and what better advertising than to sing:

[cue music by The Box Tops  -- or, better yet, Joe Cocker] 

  My clients don&#039;t need no distrain.
  I don&#039;t need no file no com-plain.
  That ole suit is gone,
  We&#039;re all goin home,
  I done sent the Per-fessor &quot;a letter.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Steve</strong> says:<br />
The sanctimonious speech by the lawyer is a bit much.</p></blockquote>
<p>Be charitable:</p>
<p>1.  An uncontested win is still a win;<br />
2.  The attorney needs to generate business, and what better advertising than to sing:</p>
<p>[cue music by The Box Tops  — or, better yet, Joe Cocker] </p>
<p>  My clients don’t need no distrain.<br />
  I don’t need no file no com-plain.<br />
  That ole suit is gone,<br />
  We’re all goin home,<br />
  I done sent the Per-fessor “a letter.”</p>
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		<title>By: rarango</title>
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		<dc:creator>rarango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see there is some closure on this case.  Professor Volokh deleted a previous post I made on this case on the grounds of pointless vulgarity--and he was absolutely correct--I admit to both charges.

I do remain curious about how the plaintiff was able to get tenure at a law school.  Awarding the plaintiff tenure says little good about academic processes and calls the entire profession and academe into question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see there is some closure on this case.  Professor Volokh deleted a previous post I made on this case on the grounds of pointless vulgarity–and he was absolutely correct–I admit to both charges.</p>
<p>I do remain curious about how the plaintiff was able to get tenure at a law school.  Awarding the plaintiff tenure says little good about academic processes and calls the entire profession and academe into question.</p>
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		<title>By: Aultimer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aultimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-683328&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-683328&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Steve&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: The sanctimonious speech by the lawyer is a bit&#160;much.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sanctimonious? I guess you haven&#039;t read &lt;a href=&quot;http://randazza.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;his blog &lt;/a&gt;then...

The title of &lt;a href=&quot;http://randazza.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/above-the-law-lawsuit-dismissed/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;his post on the case &lt;/a&gt;is illustrative -</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-683328" rel="nofollow">Steve</a></strong>: The sanctimonious speech by the lawyer is a bit much.
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<p>Sanctimonious? I guess you haven’t read <a href="http://randazza.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">his blog </a>then...</p>
<p>The title of <a href="http://randazza.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/above-the-law-lawsuit-dismissed/" rel="nofollow">his post on the case </a>is illustrative -</p>
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		<title>By: Dudeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dudeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-683277&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-683277&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Seamus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I’m really disappointed that Above the Law didn’t get to go for sanctions. I know it’s not quite sporting for Michael Jordan (in his prime) to make a slam dunk to score against a team of little old ladies, but sometime it’s still fun to&#160;watch.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;


With the Rule 11 Safe Harbor sanctions were unlikely:

Faculty Lounge, yesterday morning:

Civ. Pro. Prof: Hey Jones, dismiss that pile of crap you filed or you&#039;re gonna pay ATL&#039;s attorney fees.

Jones: No way man, they violated my rights!

Civ. Pro. Prof: ATL&#039;s attorney charges $300 an hour.

Jones:  I gotta go do somethin&#039;....</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-683277" rel="nofollow">Seamus</a></strong>: I’m really disappointed that Above the Law didn’t get to go for sanctions. I know it’s not quite sporting for Michael Jordan (in his prime) to make a slam dunk to score against a team of little old ladies, but sometime it’s still fun to watch.
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<p>With the Rule 11 Safe Harbor sanctions were unlikely:</p>
<p>Faculty Lounge, yesterday morning:</p>
<p>Civ. Pro. Prof: Hey Jones, dismiss that pile of crap you filed or you’re gonna pay ATL’s attorney fees.</p>
<p>Jones: No way man, they violated my rights!</p>
<p>Civ. Pro. Prof: ATL’s attorney charges $300 an hour.</p>
<p>Jones:  I gotta go do somethin’....</p>
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		<title>By: J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-683319&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-683319&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jccamp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Just out of idle curiosity, I wonder why the original charges were dismissed? Possibilities include the officer not showing up for court, or more likely, the professor — as a first time offender — entering a pre-trial diversion program by pleading &lt;em&gt;nolo&lt;/em&gt;, adjudication is initially withheld, and upon successful completion of some AIDs-related education class, a finding of not guilty is entered and the record sealed/expunged. That’s a pretty typical disposition for prostitution charges.

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Jones took a Pretrial Diversion plea.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-683319" rel="nofollow">jccamp</a></strong>: Just out of idle curiosity, I wonder why the original charges were dismissed? Possibilities include the officer not showing up for court, or more likely, the professor — as a first time offender — entering a pre-trial diversion program by pleading <em>nolo</em>, adjudication is initially withheld, and upon successful completion of some AIDs-related education class, a finding of not guilty is entered and the record sealed/expunged. That’s a pretty typical disposition for prostitution charges.</p>
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<p>Jones took a Pretrial Diversion plea.</p>
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		<title>By: loki13</title>
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		<dc:creator>loki13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-683314&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-683314&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ChrisTS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: :-)
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I believe the good professor only opens his mouth to change feet.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-683314" rel="nofollow">ChrisTS</a></strong>: :-)
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<p>I believe the good professor only opens his mouth to change feet.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t often agree with Steve, but I do here. The attorney was being a pompous jackass (my apologies in advance to any and all other jackasses for the comparison, whether of the two or four-legged variety).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t often agree with Steve, but I do here. The attorney was being a pompous jackass (my apologies in advance to any and all other jackasses for the comparison, whether of the two or four-legged variety).</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sanctimonious speech by the lawyer is a bit much.</description>
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		<title>By: jccamp</title>
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		<dc:creator>jccamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just out of idle curiosity, I wonder why the original charges were dismissed? Possibilities include the officer not showing up for court, or more likely, the professor - as a first time offender - entering a pre-trial diversion program by pleading &lt;em&gt;nolo&lt;/em&gt;, adjudication is initially withheld, and upon successful completion of some AIDs-related education class, a finding of not guilty is entered and the record sealed/expunged. That&#039;s a pretty typical disposition for prostitution charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just out of idle curiosity, I wonder why the original charges were dismissed? Possibilities include the officer not showing up for court, or more likely, the professor — as a first time offender — entering a pre-trial diversion program by pleading <em>nolo</em>, adjudication is initially withheld, and upon successful completion of some AIDs-related education class, a finding of not guilty is entered and the record sealed/expunged. That’s a pretty typical disposition for prostitution charges.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisTS</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisTS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-683288&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-683288&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: That takes even more skill when your foot is in your&#160;mouth.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

:-)</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-683288" rel="nofollow">Fub</a></strong>: That takes even more skill when your foot is in your mouth.
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<p>:-)</p>
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		<title>By: drunkdriver</title>
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		<dc:creator>drunkdriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do hope the comment thread on his post is open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do hope the comment thread on his post is open.</p>
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		<title>By: Fub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-683251&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-683251&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ChrisTS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I’m struggling to find the right simile. Is this like shooting yourself in the foot with blanks?&lt;/blockquote&gt;That takes even more skill when your foot is in your mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="comment-683251"><p><strong><a href="#comment-683251" rel="nofollow">ChrisTS</a></strong>: I’m struggling to find the right simile. Is this like shooting yourself in the foot with blanks?</p></blockquote>
<p>That takes even more skill when your foot is in your mouth.</p>
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		<title>By: Seamus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really disappointed that Above the Law didn&#039;t get to go for sanctions.  I know it&#039;s not quite sporting for Michael Jordan (in his prime) to make a slam dunk to score against a team of little old ladies, but sometime it&#039;s still fun to watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m really disappointed that Above the Law didn’t get to go for sanctions.  I know it’s not quite sporting for Michael Jordan (in his prime) to make a slam dunk to score against a team of little old ladies, but sometime it’s still fun to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisTS</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisTS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m struggling to find the right simile.  Is this like shooting yourself in the foot with blanks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m struggling to find the right simile.  Is this like shooting yourself in the foot with blanks?</p>
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		<title>By: PatHMV</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatHMV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s be charitable and assume that the good professor just had a really stressful week and filed a stupid pleading without thinking it through. It&#039;s good that he did the right thing sooner rather than later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let’s be charitable and assume that the good professor just had a really stressful week and filed a stupid pleading without thinking it through. It’s good that he did the right thing sooner rather than later.</p>
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		<title>By: PeteP</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeteP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think he lost a pair of pants at the dry cleaner&#039;s recently :-)

Along with any skills he may ever have possessed in the area of writing legal briefs.  His nonsensical rambling whining was worthy of the type of suits you see filed by insane inmates hoping their prose gets them a bus ride to the courthouse so they can see the sights and get a nice change of pace from group therapy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think he lost a pair of pants at the dry cleaner’s recently :-)</p>
<p>Along with any skills he may ever have possessed in the area of writing legal briefs.  His nonsensical rambling whining was worthy of the type of suits you see filed by insane inmates hoping their prose gets them a bus ride to the courthouse so they can see the sights and get a nice change of pace from group therapy.</p>
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