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		<title>By: Sean Schroeder</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/11/08/un-budgets-and-follow-the-money/comment-page-1/#comment-840597</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Schroeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 19:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all the stuff I am getting confused at the moment.</description>
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		<title>By: Niche Marketing Man</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/11/08/un-budgets-and-follow-the-money/comment-page-1/#comment-690088</link>
		<dc:creator>Niche Marketing Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoy blogs like yours, thank you for your opinion.</description>
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		<title>By: ced</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/11/08/un-budgets-and-follow-the-money/comment-page-1/#comment-689714</link>
		<dc:creator>ced</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! thanks for the great information.</description>
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		<title>By: chartered accountants</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/11/08/un-budgets-and-follow-the-money/comment-page-1/#comment-688474</link>
		<dc:creator>chartered accountants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its very interesting. I am always searching online for articles that can help me. Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its very interesting. I am always searching online for articles that can help me. Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: The Volokh Conspiracy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Reading While Traveling, Hard Copy and No Internet</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/11/08/un-budgets-and-follow-the-money/comment-page-1/#comment-687670</link>
		<dc:creator>The Volokh Conspiracy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Reading While Traveling, Hard Copy and No Internet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in human rights majesty listening to some special rapporteur drone on beneath the HRC chamber’s $23 million ceiling consisting, alas, of money partly diverted from Spain’s international development aid budget for, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fat Man</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/11/08/un-budgets-and-follow-the-money/comment-page-1/#comment-685379</link>
		<dc:creator>Fat Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Move them to Kinshasa.</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan Waxx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Waxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the few the proud:

Perhaps if you can&#039;t help but bring previous discussions into new threads, it is you who should leave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the few the proud:</p>
<p>Perhaps if you can&#8217;t help but bring previous discussions into new threads, it is you who should leave.</p>
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		<title>By: HRC BS &#171; ruddyie</title>
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		<dc:creator>HRC BS &#171; ruddyie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this short piece from TVC. A reason why I think the UN (United Nations) and the HRC (Human Rights Commission) are a pile of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: AnthonyH</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/11/08/un-budgets-and-follow-the-money/comment-page-1/#comment-685322</link>
		<dc:creator>AnthonyH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather the US tone down our support for the UN and create an Organization of Democratic States, essentially a mutual defense treaty organization for democratic states, much like that created in the Orson Scott Card &quot;Ender&quot; books. 

Membership was only by plebiscite, and each member country had to adopt a constitution that guaranteed individual freedoms, democratic process within the country, human rights, etc. Once a country (or portion of a country) became a member of the organization, there would be a military mutual defense obligation on all other member states against non-states. Member states could not maintain a military, but were part of the group military.

I&#039;d much rather see that than the UN any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather the US tone down our support for the UN and create an Organization of Democratic States, essentially a mutual defense treaty organization for democratic states, much like that created in the Orson Scott Card &#8220;Ender&#8221; books. </p>
<p>Membership was only by plebiscite, and each member country had to adopt a constitution that guaranteed individual freedoms, democratic process within the country, human rights, etc. Once a country (or portion of a country) became a member of the organization, there would be a military mutual defense obligation on all other member states against non-states. Member states could not maintain a military, but were part of the group military.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d much rather see that than the UN any day.</p>
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		<title>By: Assistant Village Idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Assistant Village Idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Each country sends its self-appointed elites to the United Governments.  Kleptocracies send sons of well-connected families, tyrannies send spies, and the West sends arts &amp; humanities bloviators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each country sends its self-appointed elites to the United Governments.  Kleptocracies send sons of well-connected families, tyrannies send spies, and the West sends arts &amp; humanities bloviators.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Rostrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Rostrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UN accounting is notoriously bad. Millions of dollars are spent without records, or simply disappear.

Donald Trump was interviewed on the subject of the recent (ongoing?) rehab of the UN Building, and he was scathing, without even trying. Huge fees had been paid to architects (far more than Trump had paid for the complete design of a new building), and yet there was no final plan. The head of the project did not even know what the building&#039;s heating system was. The rents paid for temporary space were grossly excessive.

ISTM that the U.S. should have the CIA infiltrate the UN, copy records, hack computers and accounts, and trace &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; the money - producing the sort of real accounting the UN bureaucracy doesn&#039;t want. Besides exposing boondoggles, it would also identify a great many thieves. The U.S. could use &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; information to &quot;shape&quot; UN policies and activities (IYKWIMAITYD).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UN accounting is notoriously bad. Millions of dollars are spent without records, or simply disappear.</p>
<p>Donald Trump was interviewed on the subject of the recent (ongoing?) rehab of the UN Building, and he was scathing, without even trying. Huge fees had been paid to architects (far more than Trump had paid for the complete design of a new building), and yet there was no final plan. The head of the project did not even know what the building&#8217;s heating system was. The rents paid for temporary space were grossly excessive.</p>
<p>ISTM that the U.S. should have the CIA infiltrate the UN, copy records, hack computers and accounts, and trace <em>all</em> the money &#8211; producing the sort of real accounting the UN bureaucracy doesn&#8217;t want. Besides exposing boondoggles, it would also identify a great many thieves. The U.S. could use <em>that</em> information to &#8220;shape&#8221; UN policies and activities (IYKWIMAITYD).</p>
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		<title>By: ra_8secs</title>
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		<dc:creator>ra_8secs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>roger h:  
Aubsolutely.  The point of the UN, I think, is to be as ineffective and inefficient as possible, but still a tea-kettle spout of steam.  While the the non-payer tyrant, etc. useless state potentates who get to live high on its waves of grandeur get to spout fury and such, signifying nothing, the real working world goes on.  (OK, so I really warped up Shakespeare.)  

To be efficient would be to call them to task.  Perhaps the WWII winner states and their successful democratic brethren just want to keep the barbarians down on the farm.  Or the lid on the boiling pot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>roger h:<br />
Aubsolutely.  The point of the UN, I think, is to be as ineffective and inefficient as possible, but still a tea-kettle spout of steam.  While the the non-payer tyrant, etc. useless state potentates who get to live high on its waves of grandeur get to spout fury and such, signifying nothing, the real working world goes on.  (OK, so I really warped up Shakespeare.)  </p>
<p>To be efficient would be to call them to task.  Perhaps the WWII winner states and their successful democratic brethren just want to keep the barbarians down on the farm.  Or the lid on the boiling pot.</p>
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		<title>By: ke_future</title>
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		<dc:creator>ke_future</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the few the proud...do you actually have a refutation of what PeteP said in regards to this article? or are you taking the time honored tack of attempting (rather lamely) to paint the poster as an idiot so that you don&#039;t actually have to respond the the substance of his statement?

and i do not believe that non sequitor means what you think it does.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the few the proud&#8230;do you actually have a refutation of what PeteP said in regards to this article? or are you taking the time honored tack of attempting (rather lamely) to paint the poster as an idiot so that you don&#8217;t actually have to respond the the substance of his statement?</p>
<p>and i do not believe that non sequitor means what you think it does&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: roger h</title>
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		<dc:creator>roger h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often wonder if a inefficient UN is the goal.  An effective world body could be a threat to to the sovereignty of well adjusted independent nations.</description>
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		<title>By: Sotiredofitall</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/11/08/un-budgets-and-follow-the-money/comment-page-1/#comment-685205</link>
		<dc:creator>Sotiredofitall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DUH!!  It&#039;s a collection of elite professional bureaucrats; since when has a bureaucrat ever done anything other than make their own life (and their entourage) better.  It&#039;s a joke and has 
been since inception.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DUH!!  It&#8217;s a collection of elite professional bureaucrats; since when has a bureaucrat ever done anything other than make their own life (and their entourage) better.  It&#8217;s a joke and has<br />
been since inception.</p>
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		<title>By: Stones Cry Out - If they keep silent&#8230; &#187; Things Heard: e93v1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stones Cry Out - If they keep silent&#8230; &#187; Things Heard: e93v1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Monday Highlights &#124; Pseudo-Polymath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monday Highlights &#124; Pseudo-Polymath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] UN and money &#8230; starve the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention The Volokh Conspiracy » Blog Archive » UN Budgets and Follow the Money -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Mario Tankovic, andrew. andrew said: The Volokh Conspiracy » Blog Archive » UN Budgets and Follow the Money: The Volokh Conspiracy · Home · About · .. http://bit.ly/2XzlgL [...]</description>
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		<title>By: the few the proud</title>
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		<dc:creator>the few the proud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PeteP,

Haven&#039;t you disgraced yourself enough yet here to stop commenting?

To take just one example, you stated recently that because China has severe problems in the administration of criminal justice, we shouldn&#039;t bother to address criminal justice problems in the United States. &lt;a href=&quot;http://volokh.com/2009/10/31/20873/#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;

Do yourself a favor and look up non sequitur in the dictionary.  You would learn from it.

Thanks,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PeteP,</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t you disgraced yourself enough yet here to stop commenting?</p>
<p>To take just one example, you stated recently that because China has severe problems in the administration of criminal justice, we shouldn&#8217;t bother to address criminal justice problems in the United States. <a href="http://volokh.com/2009/10/31/20873/#comments" rel="nofollow"></p>
<p>Do yourself a favor and look up non sequitur in the dictionary.  You would learn from it.</p>
<p>Thanks,</a></p>
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		<title>By: PeteP</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeteP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to worry - the UN has a remarkable quantity of ideas about how to finance themselves via &#039;universal taxes&#039; on &#039;carbon &#039; global warming&#039;, financial transactions, etc, etc.  They can easily gain a trillion dollars a year to have at their disposal, if we just do what they want ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to worry &#8211; the UN has a remarkable quantity of ideas about how to finance themselves via &#8216;universal taxes&#8217; on &#8216;carbon &#8216; global warming&#8217;, financial transactions, etc, etc.  They can easily gain a trillion dollars a year to have at their disposal, if we just do what they want &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: David Welker</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Welker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenneth Anderson,

I think you are absolutely right to point out waste. Spending $23 million on a ceiling mural is a waste of money. Couldn&#039;t that money be used to bring fresh and safe water or food to people who lack such things, for example? I am not against public art either, but I do not think that extravagant public art should take a high priority when it benefits so few and when there are obviously more pressing needs.

However, while I agree with you concerning this particular expenditure, I don&#039;t think you can generalize from that about the UN. (Which doesn&#039;t mean you can&#039;t make such generalizations. Only you would need a lot of other evidence. Unfortunately, I am far from an expert on UN finances.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenneth Anderson,</p>
<p>I think you are absolutely right to point out waste. Spending $23 million on a ceiling mural is a waste of money. Couldn&#8217;t that money be used to bring fresh and safe water or food to people who lack such things, for example? I am not against public art either, but I do not think that extravagant public art should take a high priority when it benefits so few and when there are obviously more pressing needs.</p>
<p>However, while I agree with you concerning this particular expenditure, I don&#8217;t think you can generalize from that about the UN. (Which doesn&#8217;t mean you can&#8217;t make such generalizations. Only you would need a lot of other evidence. Unfortunately, I am far from an expert on UN finances.)</p>
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