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		<title>By: Common Sense Political Thought &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The impracticality of capital punishment</title>
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		<dc:creator>Common Sense Political Thought &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The impracticality of capital punishment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bench. The Supreme Court yesterday reversed Reinhardt 9-0, and as Orin Kerr reported, it was the third reversal in the same case: The basic dynamic of Ninth Circuit “liberal lion” Stephen Reinhardt overturning a death [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Herb Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if either CJ Bobs or SCOTUS has the power to remove any CCA judge from a case on remand, absent a clear conflict of interest or other absolute disqualifier.  However, in another criminal capital appeal in the 1990&#039;s, People of Cal. v. Alton Harris, SCOTUS DID order the CA9 not to consider any more stay of execution motions without SCOTUS&#039; express authorization to do so.  Reinhardt figured prominently in that expensive mess.  

Re:  impeachment of federal judges, Congress has effectively allowed tenure &lt;em&gt;de bene gesserint&lt;/em&gt; - during good behavior - to be supplanted by life tenure, which is NOT what Art. III says.  Another example of an important Constitutional safeguard disappearing because of non-use.  &lt;em&gt;Cf. Gideon v. Wainwright&lt;/em&gt; and the rise of &quot;civil &lt;em&gt;Gideon&lt;/em&gt;,&quot; a gratuitous and unlegislated Constitutional expansion spreading because of overuse and its resulting entitlement mentality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if either CJ Bobs or SCOTUS has the power to remove any CCA judge from a case on remand, absent a clear conflict of interest or other absolute disqualifier.  However, in another criminal capital appeal in the 1990&#8242;s, People of Cal. v. Alton Harris, SCOTUS DID order the CA9 not to consider any more stay of execution motions without SCOTUS&#8217; express authorization to do so.  Reinhardt figured prominently in that expensive mess.  </p>
<p>Re:  impeachment of federal judges, Congress has effectively allowed tenure <em>de bene gesserint</em> &#8211; during good behavior &#8211; to be supplanted by life tenure, which is NOT what Art. III says.  Another example of an important Constitutional safeguard disappearing because of non-use.  <em>Cf. Gideon v. Wainwright</em> and the rise of &#8220;civil <em>Gideon</em>,&#8221; a gratuitous and unlegislated Constitutional expansion spreading because of overuse and its resulting entitlement mentality.</p>
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		<title>By: D.R.M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.R.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-688949&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-688949&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Joe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;:The first two times, R. got the support of three and four justices. For those who say he kept on ignoring the law, four justices disagree with&#160;you.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Sure.  And on the third time, he blatantly mischaracterized the facts of the case, going so far as to reverse his own previous characterization.  He amply demonstrated on the third time that he cares nothing for the truth or the law, merely using legal forms to cover his efforts to clothe his naked power-abuse.  Impeach him.</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-688949" rel="nofollow">Joe</a></strong>:The first two times, R. got the support of three and four justices. For those who say he kept on ignoring the law, four justices disagree with&nbsp;you.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sure.  And on the third time, he blatantly mischaracterized the facts of the case, going so far as to reverse his own previous characterization.  He amply demonstrated on the third time that he cares nothing for the truth or the law, merely using legal forms to cover his efforts to clothe his naked power-abuse.  Impeach him.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The motive was disguised, but thinly.&lt;/em&gt;

Sure.  I realize the motivations. But, the actual impeachment was based on his actions during trial, not just his ideology. There also was another case where a judge was found innocent in the criminal trial but still impeached. I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if some of the judicial impeachment choices over the years had some sort of political angle to them. 

Anyway, there has been various cases where a ruling was remanded and the lower court in effect ignored the SC. The SC has been selective in calling them on it. Another repeat offender was a case against the defendant, a peremptory challenge case. To be evenhanded, the SC called them on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The motive was disguised, but thinly.</em></p>
<p>Sure.  I realize the motivations. But, the actual impeachment was based on his actions during trial, not just his ideology. There also was another case where a judge was found innocent in the criminal trial but still impeached. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if some of the judicial impeachment choices over the years had some sort of political angle to them. </p>
<p>Anyway, there has been various cases where a ruling was remanded and the lower court in effect ignored the SC. The SC has been selective in calling them on it. Another repeat offender was a case against the defendant, a peremptory challenge case. To be evenhanded, the SC called them on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Supreme Court&#039;s reversal here deserves more attention by mainstream media.  The language of the Supreme Court&#039;s reversal is stark and harsh.  &quot;[We] . . . simply cannot comprehend the assertion by the Court of Appeals that this case did not involve &#039;needless suffering.&#039;&quot;  

The Court even chided the 9th Cir. for its sophistry.  &quot;More evidence, the Court of Appeals now concluded, would have made a difference; in particular, more evidence to “humanize” Belmontes, as that court put it no fewer than 11 times in its opinion.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Supreme Court&#8217;s reversal here deserves more attention by mainstream media.  The language of the Supreme Court&#8217;s reversal is stark and harsh.  &#8220;[We] . . . simply cannot comprehend the assertion by the Court of Appeals that this case did not involve &#8216;needless suffering.&#8217;&#8221;  </p>
<p>The Court even chided the 9th Cir. for its sophistry.  &#8220;More evidence, the Court of Appeals now concluded, would have made a difference; in particular, more evidence to “humanize” Belmontes, as that court put it no fewer than 11 times in its opinion.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Field</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hmm. This might be the motivation, but the articles of impeachment cite actual procedural problems.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

The motive was disguised, but thinly. A summary is &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Chase#Impeachment&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hmm. This might be the motivation, but the articles of impeachment cite actual procedural problems.</p></blockquote>
<p>The motive was disguised, but thinly. A summary is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Chase#Impeachment" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuesday Round-up &#124; SCOTUSblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tuesday Round-up &#124; SCOTUSblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on the defendant to show that the result might have been different with competent counsel.  The Volokh Conspiracy notes that this decision marks the third time the Supreme Court has overruled Ninth Circuit Judge [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Justice Chase was impeached for ideological offenses&lt;/em&gt;

Hmm. This might be the motivation, but the articles of impeachment cite actual procedural problems. 

James N. Gibson points to something. The first two times, R. got the support of three and four justices. For those who say he kept on ignoring the law, four justices disagree with you. 

As to the last time, Stevens didn&#039;t want them to take the case but agreed as to the specific matter at hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Justice Chase was impeached for ideological offenses</em></p>
<p>Hmm. This might be the motivation, but the articles of impeachment cite actual procedural problems. </p>
<p>James N. Gibson points to something. The first two times, R. got the support of three and four justices. For those who say he kept on ignoring the law, four justices disagree with you. </p>
<p>As to the last time, Stevens didn&#8217;t want them to take the case but agreed as to the specific matter at hand.</p>
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		<title>By: James N. Gibson</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/11/16/reinhardt-reversed-for-third-time-in-same-case/comment-page-1/#comment-688792</link>
		<dc:creator>James N. Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the significant point in this is that SCOTUS was 9-0 for reversing this. That means they had Breyer, Ginsburg, Soutamayor and Stevens. Reinhardt usually has been able to get the backing of the liberal members of the court.  In the first reversal he got the backing of Souter, Ginsburg and Stevens. In the second try it was a split court with Stevens, Souter, Ginsburg and Breyer in dissent.  This time Reinhardt didn&#039;t get anyone to dissent. Is it possible that the retirement of Souter has thrown off the morale compass of the court. Or is it that now that we have a Latina on the Court its possible to condemn a hispanic to death without any PC problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the significant point in this is that SCOTUS was 9-0 for reversing this. That means they had Breyer, Ginsburg, Soutamayor and Stevens. Reinhardt usually has been able to get the backing of the liberal members of the court.  In the first reversal he got the backing of Souter, Ginsburg and Stevens. In the second try it was a split court with Stevens, Souter, Ginsburg and Breyer in dissent.  This time Reinhardt didn&#8217;t get anyone to dissent. Is it possible that the retirement of Souter has thrown off the morale compass of the court. Or is it that now that we have a Latina on the Court its possible to condemn a hispanic to death without any PC problems.</p>
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		<title>By: D.R.M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.R.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Customarily, judges only get impeached for criminal acts.  But the standard in the Constitution for judges is that &quot;they shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour&quot; -- which the 1913 Webster&#039;s defines as &quot;while (or so long as) one conducts one&#039;s self with integrity and fidelity&quot;.

Were I Roberts, I&#039;d specifically call out the behavior of Reinhardt in a letter to Congress and advise that he is not behaving in a manner consistent with the Constitutional standard for judges, given his overt nonsense on the latest 9-0 reversal.

And if there are other district judges consistently failing to demonstrate &quot;good behavior&quot; but not managing to draw the attention of the Supreme Court, the Chief Judges for those circuits should similarly write Congress about them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Customarily, judges only get impeached for criminal acts.  But the standard in the Constitution for judges is that &#8220;they shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour&#8221; &#8212; which the 1913 Webster&#8217;s defines as &#8220;while (or so long as) one conducts one&#8217;s self with integrity and fidelity&#8221;.</p>
<p>Were I Roberts, I&#8217;d specifically call out the behavior of Reinhardt in a letter to Congress and advise that he is not behaving in a manner consistent with the Constitutional standard for judges, given his overt nonsense on the latest 9-0 reversal.</p>
<p>And if there are other district judges consistently failing to demonstrate &#8220;good behavior&#8221; but not managing to draw the attention of the Supreme Court, the Chief Judges for those circuits should similarly write Congress about them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Field</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As someone who tried cases before Judge Hauk and Judge Lydick and others, I can verify that there were judges worse than Real, as hard as that is to believe.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why was God so angry with you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As someone who tried cases before Judge Hauk and Judge Lydick and others, I can verify that there were judges worse than Real, as hard as that is to believe.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why was God so angry with you?</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I think this is a classic case of bias and deserves appropriate punishment. On what other issues has he had his thumb on the scale? How many other parties to the court has he screwed over because he decided to be an advocate?

A lot fewer than Judge Real, an unprincipled conservative.  If you want to punish Reinhardt, then at least be even handed and call for the punishment of all the judges who have their thumbs on the scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I think this is a classic case of bias and deserves appropriate punishment. On what other issues has he had his thumb on the scale? How many other parties to the court has he screwed over because he decided to be an advocate?</p>
<p>A lot fewer than Judge Real, an unprincipled conservative.  If you want to punish Reinhardt, then at least be even handed and call for the punishment of all the judges who have their thumbs on the scale.</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little more historical perspective, this one based on personal experience. I don’t think it’s possible to convey just how bad the CA CD was in the mid to late 70s. Maybe I can say it this way: Judge Real was not even close to being one of the worst judges at that time; there were 2 or 3 who were FAR worse.

I second tha.  As someone who tried cases before Judge Hauk and Judge Lydick and others, I can verify that there were judges worse than Real, as hard as that is to believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little more historical perspective, this one based on personal experience. I don’t think it’s possible to convey just how bad the CA CD was in the mid to late 70s. Maybe I can say it this way: Judge Real was not even close to being one of the worst judges at that time; there were 2 or 3 who were FAR worse.</p>
<p>I second tha.  As someone who tried cases before Judge Hauk and Judge Lydick and others, I can verify that there were judges worse than Real, as hard as that is to believe.</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to nitpick a little history here, Justice Chase was impeached for ideological offenses. There was another early impeachment of a judge who probably was insane and was not, IIRC, accused of any criminal offense.

You&#039;re right about Chase.  I meant to say that there have been no impeachment of District Court or Court of Appeal judges for ideological offenses</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to nitpick a little history here, Justice Chase was impeached for ideological offenses. There was another early impeachment of a judge who probably was insane and was not, IIRC, accused of any criminal offense.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right about Chase.  I meant to say that there have been no impeachment of District Court or Court of Appeal judges for ideological offenses</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Unneland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Unneland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t the authority to prohibit a particular judge or judges from rehearing a case derive from the general supervisory authority that the Supreme Court has has over lower federal courts?  I guess it&#039;s so unusual, and would be such an egregious bench slap, that the Supreme Court is reluctant to do it.  I think the Chief Justice wanted unanimity, and might not have been able to get it if they removed Reinhardt from the rehearing on remand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t the authority to prohibit a particular judge or judges from rehearing a case derive from the general supervisory authority that the Supreme Court has has over lower federal courts?  I guess it&#8217;s so unusual, and would be such an egregious bench slap, that the Supreme Court is reluctant to do it.  I think the Chief Justice wanted unanimity, and might not have been able to get it if they removed Reinhardt from the rehearing on remand.</p>
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		<title>By: Perseus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perseus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More evidence for legal realism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More evidence for legal realism.</p>
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		<title>By: DangerMouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>DangerMouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Well, since judges get to interpret the law, it’s pretty tought to determine that a judge is refusing to follow it....&lt;/em&gt;

A good test is when he changes his characterization of the same set of facts to suit his different legal argument at the time.  An advocate is supposed to characterize the facts to suit their argument.  An impartial judge is not.  But when you go from calling the same evidence &quot;substantial&quot; to &quot;cursory,&quot; it&#039;s pretty clear that you&#039;re not acting as a judge anymore but as an advocate.  As such, it seems obvious that removal is the appropriate remedy.

Honestly, I think this is a classic case of bias and deserves appropriate punishment.  On what other issues has he had his thumb on the scale?  How many other parties to the court has he screwed over because he decided to be an advocate?  How many other victims of murder wouldn&#039;t receive justice because this lib decided that he&#039;d call something &quot;substantial&quot; one day and &quot;cursory&quot; the next day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Well, since judges get to interpret the law, it’s pretty tought to determine that a judge is refusing to follow it&#8230;.</em></p>
<p>A good test is when he changes his characterization of the same set of facts to suit his different legal argument at the time.  An advocate is supposed to characterize the facts to suit their argument.  An impartial judge is not.  But when you go from calling the same evidence &#8220;substantial&#8221; to &#8220;cursory,&#8221; it&#8217;s pretty clear that you&#8217;re not acting as a judge anymore but as an advocate.  As such, it seems obvious that removal is the appropriate remedy.</p>
<p>Honestly, I think this is a classic case of bias and deserves appropriate punishment.  On what other issues has he had his thumb on the scale?  How many other parties to the court has he screwed over because he decided to be an advocate?  How many other victims of murder wouldn&#8217;t receive justice because this lib decided that he&#8217;d call something &#8220;substantial&#8221; one day and &#8220;cursory&#8221; the next day.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Field</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little more historical perspective, this one based on personal experience. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s possible to convey just how bad the CA CD was in the mid to late 70s. Maybe I can say it this way: Judge Real was not even close to being one of the worst judges at that time; there were 2 or 3 who were FAR worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little more historical perspective, this one based on personal experience. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s possible to convey just how bad the CA CD was in the mid to late 70s. Maybe I can say it this way: Judge Real was not even close to being one of the worst judges at that time; there were 2 or 3 who were FAR worse.</p>
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		<title>By: cjwynes</title>
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		<dc:creator>cjwynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-688492&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-688492&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ShelbyC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Well, since judges get to interpret the law, it’s pretty tought to determine that a judge is refusing to follow it, unless he says “I find that the says X but I’m going to rule Y anyway.” Hell, even if a judge says, “binding precedent case says X, but I find that the law doen’t require me to follow binding precedent” I think it would be tough to determine that he isn’t following the&#160;law.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They&#039;ll never come out and say that.  That&#039;s why the &quot;death is different&quot; jurisprudence is so complex and irrational; the abolitionist judges keep creating novel approaches in particular cases to strike down death sentences.  They should either do like Blackmun did and just say outright they won&#039;t vote to uphold any of them, or else realize that the penalty is not their moral responsibility and they commit no moral crime by failing to strike it down.  That responsibility lies with the legislators who choose to allow the penalty, the prosecutors who choose to seek the penalty, and the juries who choose to impose it.  (And, if you&#039;re in favor of capital punishment, you would say responsibility also lies with the perp who committed the crime.)</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-688492" rel="nofollow">ShelbyC</a></strong>: Well, since judges get to interpret the law, it’s pretty tought to determine that a judge is refusing to follow it, unless he says “I find that the says X but I’m going to rule Y anyway.” Hell, even if a judge says, “binding precedent case says X, but I find that the law doen’t require me to follow binding precedent” I think it would be tough to determine that he isn’t following the&nbsp;law.
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<p>They&#8217;ll never come out and say that.  That&#8217;s why the &#8220;death is different&#8221; jurisprudence is so complex and irrational; the abolitionist judges keep creating novel approaches in particular cases to strike down death sentences.  They should either do like Blackmun did and just say outright they won&#8217;t vote to uphold any of them, or else realize that the penalty is not their moral responsibility and they commit no moral crime by failing to strike it down.  That responsibility lies with the legislators who choose to allow the penalty, the prosecutors who choose to seek the penalty, and the juries who choose to impose it.  (And, if you&#8217;re in favor of capital punishment, you would say responsibility also lies with the perp who committed the crime.)</p>
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		<title>By: hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad the murder victim did not have any right to appeal.  Maybe she would have lucked out and gotten an appeals bench where one of the panel refuses to grant authority for the termination of a human life.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Field</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In fact, the ONLY impeachment of federal judges in the history of the country have been for commission of crimes, not ideological offenses.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just to nitpick a little history here, Justice Chase was impeached for ideological offenses. There was another early impeachment of a judge who probably was insane and was not, IIRC, accused of any criminal offense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In fact, the ONLY impeachment of federal judges in the history of the country have been for commission of crimes, not ideological offenses.</p></blockquote>
<p>Just to nitpick a little history here, Justice Chase was impeached for ideological offenses. There was another early impeachment of a judge who probably was insane and was not, IIRC, accused of any criminal offense.</p>
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		<title>By: ShelbyC</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/11/16/reinhardt-reversed-for-third-time-in-same-case/comment-page-1/#comment-688492</link>
		<dc:creator>ShelbyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-688479&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-688479&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;richard&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I don’t support Reinhardt’s pretty obvious refusal to follow the law but if that is grounds for impeachment, then there are going to be quite a few openings on the federal bench. In the USDC for the Central District of California, we have had numerous judges other than Reinhardt who could care less about following established law (Real and Hauk come to mind), most on the conservative side, and there have been no attempts to impeach them. In fact, the ONLY impeachment of federal judges in the history of the country have been for commission of crimes, not ideological offenses.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, since judges get to interpret the law, it&#039;s pretty tought to determine that a judge is refusing to follow it, unless he says &quot;I find that the says X but I&#039;m going to rule Y anyway.&quot;  Hell, even if a judge says, &quot;binding precedent case says X, but I find that the law doen&#039;t require me to follow binding precedent&quot;  I think it would be tough to determine that he isn&#039;t following the law.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-688479" rel="nofollow">richard</a></strong>: I don’t support Reinhardt’s pretty obvious refusal to follow the law but if that is grounds for impeachment, then there are going to be quite a few openings on the federal bench. In the USDC for the Central District of California, we have had numerous judges other than Reinhardt who could care less about following established law (Real and Hauk come to mind), most on the conservative side, and there have been no attempts to impeach them. In fact, the ONLY impeachment of federal judges in the history of the country have been for commission of crimes, not ideological offenses.
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<p>Well, since judges get to interpret the law, it&#8217;s pretty tought to determine that a judge is refusing to follow it, unless he says &#8220;I find that the says X but I&#8217;m going to rule Y anyway.&#8221;  Hell, even if a judge says, &#8220;binding precedent case says X, but I find that the law doen&#8217;t require me to follow binding precedent&#8221;  I think it would be tough to determine that he isn&#8217;t following the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Sheffner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Sheffner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Ninth Circuit routinely &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-real14-2009nov14,0,3928564.story&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;removes Judge Real&lt;/a&gt; from cases after reversing him. Does anyone know if the Supreme Court has the authority to do that to circuit court judges?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ninth Circuit routinely <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-real14-2009nov14,0,3928564.story" rel="nofollow">removes Judge Real</a> from cases after reversing him. Does anyone know if the Supreme Court has the authority to do that to circuit court judges?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Field</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/11/16/reinhardt-reversed-for-third-time-in-same-case/comment-page-1/#comment-688481</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There go you typical leftists again, making more unsupported assertions, like we’re supposed to just trust you when you say, like, “Trust us”, or something.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Trust but verify? Sounds vaguely familiar...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There go you typical leftists again, making more unsupported assertions, like we’re supposed to just trust you when you say, like, “Trust us”, or something.</p></blockquote>
<p>Trust but verify? Sounds vaguely familiar&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: geokstr</title>
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		<dc:creator>geokstr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;BT says:
&lt;blockquote&gt;so nothing counts that’s from ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, NYT, LAT, WaPo, HuffPo, DU, KOS, Media Matters, FighttheSmears, Time, Newspeak, or any other source except Fox, the WSJ, or the Limbaugh radio show). &lt;/blockquote&gt;
You mean I can’t listen to G. Gordon Liddy?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Hey, you can listen to anyone you want (I recently read that several hundreds of people (not a typo) even continue to watch or read the antique media that I listed, but can&#039;t find the link about their viewership/circulation right now, so that figure may be wildly overstated), you just can&#039;t use it to &quot;prove&quot; MarkField&#039;s unsupported assertion above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>BT says:</p>
<blockquote><p>so nothing counts that’s from ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, NYT, LAT, WaPo, HuffPo, DU, KOS, Media Matters, FighttheSmears, Time, Newspeak, or any other source except Fox, the WSJ, or the Limbaugh radio show). </p></blockquote>
<p>You mean I can’t listen to G. Gordon Liddy?</p></blockquote>
<p>Hey, you can listen to anyone you want (I recently read that several hundreds of people (not a typo) even continue to watch or read the antique media that I listed, but can&#8217;t find the link about their viewership/circulation right now, so that figure may be wildly overstated), you just can&#8217;t use it to &#8220;prove&#8221; MarkField&#8217;s unsupported assertion above.</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if the judge is steadfastly refusing to apply the law in these cases, at what point does Congress step up and impeach him? Is that a possibility with the current Congress? 

I don&#039;t support Reinhardt&#039;s pretty obvious refusal to follow the law but if that is grounds for impeachment, then there are going to be quite a few openings on the federal bench.  In the USDC for the Central District of California, we have had numerous judges other  than Reinhardt who could care less about following established law (Real and Hauk come to mind), most on the conservative side, and there have been no attempts to impeach them.  In fact, the ONLY impeachment of federal judges in the history of the country have been for commission of crimes, not ideological offenses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if the judge is steadfastly refusing to apply the law in these cases, at what point does Congress step up and impeach him? Is that a possibility with the current Congress? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t support Reinhardt&#8217;s pretty obvious refusal to follow the law but if that is grounds for impeachment, then there are going to be quite a few openings on the federal bench.  In the USDC for the Central District of California, we have had numerous judges other  than Reinhardt who could care less about following established law (Real and Hauk come to mind), most on the conservative side, and there have been no attempts to impeach them.  In fact, the ONLY impeachment of federal judges in the history of the country have been for commission of crimes, not ideological offenses.</p>
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		<title>By: egd</title>
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		<dc:creator>egd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-688455&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-688455&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bailey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Does “liberal lion” translate to “fundamentally dishonest”? It sounds like that is exactly what this jurist is and why the glib talking point about the law pretty much being what any given judge says it is can be so frightening.
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The first few pages of results on Google for &quot;Liberal Lion&quot; point to Senator Ted Kennedy.  So feel free to make your own judgment.

Also, if the judge is steadfastly refusing to apply the law in these cases, at what point does Congress step up and impeach him?  Is that a possibility with the current Congress?  Could Congress separate the policy issue of judges upholding the law from the policy issue of the death penalty?</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-688455" rel="nofollow">bailey</a></strong>: Does “liberal lion” translate to “fundamentally dishonest”? It sounds like that is exactly what this jurist is and why the glib talking point about the law pretty much being what any given judge says it is can be so frightening.
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<p>The first few pages of results on Google for &#8220;Liberal Lion&#8221; point to Senator Ted Kennedy.  So feel free to make your own judgment.</p>
<p>Also, if the judge is steadfastly refusing to apply the law in these cases, at what point does Congress step up and impeach him?  Is that a possibility with the current Congress?  Could Congress separate the policy issue of judges upholding the law from the policy issue of the death penalty?</p>
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		<title>By: BT</title>
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		<dc:creator>BT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;so nothing counts that’s from ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, NYT, LAT, WaPo, HuffPo, DU, KOS, Media Matters, FighttheSmears, Time, Newspeak, or any other source except Fox, the WSJ, or the Limbaugh radio show). &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You mean I can&#039;t listen to G. Gordon Liddy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>so nothing counts that’s from ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, NYT, LAT, WaPo, HuffPo, DU, KOS, Media Matters, FighttheSmears, Time, Newspeak, or any other source except Fox, the WSJ, or the Limbaugh radio show). </p></blockquote>
<p>You mean I can&#8217;t listen to G. Gordon Liddy?</p>
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		<title>By: geokstr</title>
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		<dc:creator>geokstr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-688368&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-688368&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mark Field&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Elaborate statistical analysis of his previous posts.&#160;:)
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
There go you typical leftists again, making more unsupported assertions, like we&#039;re supposed to just trust you when you say, like, &quot;Trust us&quot;, or something.

Let&#039;s have the cites, the sites, the links, the formulas, the population and sample sizes, the unadjusted raw data, the assumptions, and the peer reviewed articles in absolutely totally objective venues (and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt the objective part while you&#039;re at it, too, so nothing counts that&#039;s from ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, NYT, LAT, WaPo, HuffPo, DU, KOS, Media Matters, FighttheSmears, Time, Newspeak, or any other source except Fox, the WSJ, or the Limbaugh radio show). 

:-)</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-688368" rel="nofollow">Mark Field</a></strong>: Elaborate statistical analysis of his previous posts.&nbsp;:)
</p></blockquote>
<p>There go you typical leftists again, making more unsupported assertions, like we&#8217;re supposed to just trust you when you say, like, &#8220;Trust us&#8221;, or something.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s have the cites, the sites, the links, the formulas, the population and sample sizes, the unadjusted raw data, the assumptions, and the peer reviewed articles in absolutely totally objective venues (and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt the objective part while you&#8217;re at it, too, so nothing counts that&#8217;s from ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, NYT, LAT, WaPo, HuffPo, DU, KOS, Media Matters, FighttheSmears, Time, Newspeak, or any other source except Fox, the WSJ, or the Limbaugh radio show). </p>
<p>:-)</p>
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		<title>By: bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does &quot;liberal lion&quot; translate to &quot;fundamentally dishonest&quot;?  It sounds like that is exactly what this jurist is and why the glib talking point about the law pretty much being what any given judge says it is can be so frightening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does &#8220;liberal lion&#8221; translate to &#8220;fundamentally dishonest&#8221;?  It sounds like that is exactly what this jurist is and why the glib talking point about the law pretty much being what any given judge says it is can be so frightening.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-688427&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-688427&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mls&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: why does the name of the warden keep changing? Is it because they move the prisoner, or is there that much turnover in the prison system?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;My favorite law school professor once commented that the easiest way to achieve immortality is to become the warden of a maximum security prison or the director of a state prison system.  Calderon, Strickland, Schriro, et al. would likely agree.

(Though it is ironic that when I googled &quot;Strickland v. Washington,&quot; two of the first five listings asserted that Strickland was the criminal when he was actually the Superintendent of the Florida State Prison)

I, of course, enjoy irony. Since the Attorney General is sometimes a named party in habeas corpus litigation, I would have loved to have seen this case captioned &lt;em&gt;Brown v. Belmontes&lt;/em&gt; given Jerry Brown&#039;s past personal opposition to capital punishment. 

On the other hand, Brown might not have been as amused. And for the DAGs filing the cert. petition, he is still the boss.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-688427" rel="nofollow">mls</a></strong>: why does the name of the warden keep changing? Is it because they move the prisoner, or is there that much turnover in the prison system?
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<p>My favorite law school professor once commented that the easiest way to achieve immortality is to become the warden of a maximum security prison or the director of a state prison system.  Calderon, Strickland, Schriro, et al. would likely agree.</p>
<p>(Though it is ironic that when I googled &#8220;Strickland v. Washington,&#8221; two of the first five listings asserted that Strickland was the criminal when he was actually the Superintendent of the Florida State Prison)</p>
<p>I, of course, enjoy irony. Since the Attorney General is sometimes a named party in habeas corpus litigation, I would have loved to have seen this case captioned <em>Brown v. Belmontes</em> given Jerry Brown&#8217;s past personal opposition to capital punishment. </p>
<p>On the other hand, Brown might not have been as amused. And for the DAGs filing the cert. petition, he is still the boss.</p>
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		<title>By: mls</title>
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		<dc:creator>mls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ejote- thanks.  I wonder how many more wardens Belmontes will be able to outlast?</description>
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		<title>By: Ejote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ejote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-688427&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-688427&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mls&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: why does the name of the warden keep changing?Is it because they move the prisoner, or is there that much turnover in the prison system?

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San Quentin (the relevant California facility for death cases) had four wardens between Woodford (2004) and Ayers (2006).  Ayers, an experienced warden nominated by Governor Wilson to restore stability, retired after Governor Davis withdrew his nomination.  Wong, another experienced warden, is acting until Governor Schwarzenegger selects a permanent replacement.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-688427" rel="nofollow">mls</a></strong>: why does the name of the warden keep changing?Is it because they move the prisoner, or is there that much turnover in the prison system?</p>
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<p>San Quentin (the relevant California facility for death cases) had four wardens between Woodford (2004) and Ayers (2006).  Ayers, an experienced warden nominated by Governor Wilson to restore stability, retired after Governor Davis withdrew his nomination.  Wong, another experienced warden, is acting until Governor Schwarzenegger selects a permanent replacement.</p>
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		<title>By: mls</title>
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		<dc:creator>mls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why does the name of the warden keep changing?  Is it because they move the prisoner, or is there that much turnover in the prison system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why does the name of the warden keep changing?  Is it because they move the prisoner, or is there that much turnover in the prison system?</p>
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		<title>By: egd</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/11/16/reinhardt-reversed-for-third-time-in-same-case/comment-page-1/#comment-688425</link>
		<dc:creator>egd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-688364&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-688364&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PatHMV&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Note to law reviewers&lt;del&gt;... when you find yourself reflexively cite-checking even blog posts,&lt;/del&gt; it’s time to &lt;del&gt;step away from the F.3ds and&lt;/del&gt; go have a drink.
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FIFY.</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-688364" rel="nofollow">PatHMV</a></strong>: Note to law reviewers<del>&#8230; when you find yourself reflexively cite-checking even blog posts,</del> it’s time to <del>step away from the F.3ds and</del> go have a drink.
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<p>FIFY.</p>
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