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		<title>By: Friday round-up: afternoon edition &#124; SCOTUSblog</title>
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		<description>[...] project to further that agenda.  On a related note about the judicial profession, Eugene Volokh of The Volokh Conspiracy, preparing for congressional testimony on judicial recusal rules, airs some thoughts on why such [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-704908&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-704908&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ArthurKirkland&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: The raw numbers seem to be less helpful than might originally appear with respect to assessing the point of split (or one-vote-decides) decisions.Few would spend $5 million to influence a single position on a court expected to rule 9–0 or 8–1; the money would flow when someone forecasts a close or split vote, and a single vote could control the practical result.Also, I wonder about the propriety of a judge deciding a case involving her church.Were I a judge, I would at least consider recusing myself from a case whose litigants included my fraternity, my college newspaper, my chess club, or a similar organization of which I am (or was) a member. I have seen a university trustee recuse himself from a case involving the university, another judge recuse herself with respect to a claim by a company with which her father had been affiliated, another recuse herself with respect to a case involving a medical practice that employed her husband.Unless a relationship with a frat is less serious than a relationship with a church, I find it difficult to accept the assertion that “a Catholic judge need not recuse himself in a case involving the Catholic Church . . . no matter how devoted he might be to his Catholicism and to the Church.”

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The obvious problem with such a rule would be the difficulty achieving a quorum in cases where the Catholic church is involved; six of the scotus Justices are Catholic, as an illustrative example.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-704908" rel="nofollow">ArthurKirkland</a></strong>: The raw numbers seem to be less helpful than might originally appear with respect to assessing the point of split (or one-vote-decides) decisions.Few would spend $5 million to influence a single position on a court expected to rule 9–0 or 8–1; the money would flow when someone forecasts a close or split vote, and a single vote could control the practical result.Also, I wonder about the propriety of a judge deciding a case involving her church.Were I a judge, I would at least consider recusing myself from a case whose litigants included my fraternity, my college newspaper, my chess club, or a similar organization of which I am (or was) a member. I have seen a university trustee recuse himself from a case involving the university, another judge recuse herself with respect to a claim by a company with which her father had been affiliated, another recuse herself with respect to a case involving a medical practice that employed her husband.Unless a relationship with a frat is less serious than a relationship with a church, I find it difficult to accept the assertion that “a Catholic judge need not recuse himself in a case involving the Catholic Church . . . no matter how devoted he might be to his Catholicism and to the Church.”</p>
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<p>The obvious problem with such a rule would be the difficulty achieving a quorum in cases where the Catholic church is involved; six of the scotus Justices are Catholic, as an illustrative example.</p>
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		<title>By: jcm</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im a foreigner and i would like to know:
The Judge can be recused by the parties?
Why there are not substitutes for Judges ,at least at Appeal and District Court?
Why dont use specific rules? In civil law countries that the way its work. I know Codes with 18 to 20 rules for that purpose. They cover most of the cases you exemplified.
The law here forbid priest or minister of any faith to practice the law. But you hardly will find a non catholic judge. Of course most of the are cafeteria  catholic but i know some Opus Dei militant. One of them declared void perfectly legal marriages . His decisions were  declared void so often that he was called  the Drum. He was beaten once and again   in the Supreme Court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im a foreigner and i would like to know:<br />
The Judge can be recused by the parties?<br />
Why there are not substitutes for Judges ,at least at Appeal and District Court?<br />
Why dont use specific rules? In civil law countries that the way its work. I know Codes with 18 to 20 rules for that purpose. They cover most of the cases you exemplified.<br />
The law here forbid priest or minister of any faith to practice the law. But you hardly will find a non catholic judge. Of course most of the are cafeteria  catholic but i know some Opus Dei militant. One of them declared void perfectly legal marriages . His decisions were  declared void so often that he was called  the Drum. He was beaten once and again   in the Supreme Court.</p>
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		<title>By: ArthurKirkland</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArthurKirkland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The raw numbers seem to be less helpful than might originally appear with respect to assessing the point of split (or one-vote-decides) decisions.  Few would spend $5 million to influence a single position on a court expected to rule 9-0 or 8-1; the money would flow when someone forecasts a close or split vote, and a single vote could control the practical result.

Also, I wonder about the propriety of a judge deciding a case involving her church.  Were I a judge, I would at least consider recusing myself from a case whose litigants included my fraternity, my college newspaper, my chess club, or a similar organization of which I am (or was) a member. I have seen a university trustee recuse himself from a case involving the university, another judge recuse herself with respect to a claim by a company with which her father had been affiliated, another recuse herself with respect to a case involving a medical practice that employed her husband.

Unless a relationship with a frat is less serious than a relationship with a church, I find it difficult to accept the assertion that &quot;a Catholic judge need not recuse himself in a case involving the Catholic Church . . . no matter how devoted he might be to his Catholicism and to the Church.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The raw numbers seem to be less helpful than might originally appear with respect to assessing the point of split (or one-vote-decides) decisions.  Few would spend $5 million to influence a single position on a court expected to rule 9-0 or 8-1; the money would flow when someone forecasts a close or split vote, and a single vote could control the practical result.</p>
<p>Also, I wonder about the propriety of a judge deciding a case involving her church.  Were I a judge, I would at least consider recusing myself from a case whose litigants included my fraternity, my college newspaper, my chess club, or a similar organization of which I am (or was) a member. I have seen a university trustee recuse himself from a case involving the university, another judge recuse herself with respect to a claim by a company with which her father had been affiliated, another recuse herself with respect to a case involving a medical practice that employed her husband.</p>
<p>Unless a relationship with a frat is less serious than a relationship with a church, I find it difficult to accept the assertion that &#8220;a Catholic judge need not recuse himself in a case involving the Catholic Church . . . no matter how devoted he might be to his Catholicism and to the Church.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Le Messurier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Le Messurier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a bitterly politically divided Michigan Supreme Court new rules were adopted by the court(3 Dems + 1 Repub maverick)that say essentially that :
&lt;blockquote&gt;top court justices must declare conflicts and step away from a case if prejudiced. If a justice is unwilling to do so, their fellows may weigh in and send him or her to the sideline if they believe it betters the cause of justice.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
In other words, their fellow justices may vote a judge off a case due to their own reasoning.  How common is this practice?  It seems to me to be a situation that would be ripe for misuse for political reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a bitterly politically divided Michigan Supreme Court new rules were adopted by the court(3 Dems + 1 Repub maverick)that say essentially that :</p>
<blockquote><p>top court justices must declare conflicts and step away from a case if prejudiced. If a justice is unwilling to do so, their fellows may weigh in and send him or her to the sideline if they believe it betters the cause of justice.</p></blockquote>
<p>In other words, their fellow justices may vote a judge off a case due to their own reasoning.  How common is this practice?  It seems to me to be a situation that would be ripe for misuse for political reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Out of Iowa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Out of Iowa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The American Judicature Society hosted a symposium recently on judicial recusal at Drake Law School. The Drake Law Review&#039;s edition dedicated to the subject will be out in Spring 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The American Judicature Society hosted a symposium recently on judicial recusal at Drake Law School. The Drake Law Review&#8217;s edition dedicated to the subject will be out in Spring 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: NickM</title>
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		<dc:creator>NickM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat - CA law requires that reallocation of the case be done randomly, and allows one challenge per side (multiple parties with essentially the same interests count as a side).  Orange County was successfully sued several years ago for following an improper procedure - they assigned a case following a peremptory to the most recent judge before that to have been peremptoried.  [Basically, you had a &quot;dance of the lemons&quot;.]

Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat &#8211; CA law requires that reallocation of the case be done randomly, and allows one challenge per side (multiple parties with essentially the same interests count as a side).  Orange County was successfully sued several years ago for following an improper procedure &#8211; they assigned a case following a peremptory to the most recent judge before that to have been peremptoried.  [Basically, you had a "dance of the lemons".]</p>
<p>Nick</p>
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		<title>By: PatHMV</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatHMV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to learn that some jurisdictions allow for such challenges.

CMH... as long as the reallotment of the case is done randomly, and neither the DA nor the public defender gets unlimited such challenges, then I don&#039;t see the harm. It means that the worst outliers, in either direction, will be removed. Both the soft touch and the hanging judge will find themselves with very few cases, with their cases systematically redistributed to the more sane, moderate judges. What&#039;s wrong with that? It&#039;s not at all unfair to the criminal defendant, unless you think that defendants have a right to an absurdly lenient judge, or to any particular individual judge at all. The DA may disqualify Mr. Softee because they think he&#039;ll be too lenient, but unless every other judge on the bench is tougher on crime than Mr. Softee, the DA takes a chance that the next judge will be even more soft than the first one. And if every other judge on the bench is tougher on crime than Mr. Softee, isn&#039;t that a pretty strong indication that Mr. Softee is outside the judicial mainstream? If the DA challenges Mr. Softee initially in hopes of getting Mr. Tough Guy Up for Reelection, well, the defense counsel has its challenge at the ready, to strike that guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to learn that some jurisdictions allow for such challenges.</p>
<p>CMH&#8230; as long as the reallotment of the case is done randomly, and neither the DA nor the public defender gets unlimited such challenges, then I don&#8217;t see the harm. It means that the worst outliers, in either direction, will be removed. Both the soft touch and the hanging judge will find themselves with very few cases, with their cases systematically redistributed to the more sane, moderate judges. What&#8217;s wrong with that? It&#8217;s not at all unfair to the criminal defendant, unless you think that defendants have a right to an absurdly lenient judge, or to any particular individual judge at all. The DA may disqualify Mr. Softee because they think he&#8217;ll be too lenient, but unless every other judge on the bench is tougher on crime than Mr. Softee, the DA takes a chance that the next judge will be even more soft than the first one. And if every other judge on the bench is tougher on crime than Mr. Softee, isn&#8217;t that a pretty strong indication that Mr. Softee is outside the judicial mainstream? If the DA challenges Mr. Softee initially in hopes of getting Mr. Tough Guy Up for Reelection, well, the defense counsel has its challenge at the ready, to strike that guy.</p>
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		<title>By: NickM</title>
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		<dc:creator>NickM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CMH - Public Defenders&#039; offices do it too.  It&#039;s used when the office thinks a particular judge is seriously biased.  

In one case I&#039;m aware of, the L.A. County DA&#039;s office regularly preemptoried a judge who had given ridiculously low bail or own recognizance release to several serious offenders (I was told $5K for someone facing robbery and rape charges), some of whom then disappeared and others of whom committed serious crimes while free.

Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CMH &#8211; Public Defenders&#8217; offices do it too.  It&#8217;s used when the office thinks a particular judge is seriously biased.  </p>
<p>In one case I&#8217;m aware of, the L.A. County DA&#8217;s office regularly preemptoried a judge who had given ridiculously low bail or own recognizance release to several serious offenders (I was told $5K for someone facing robbery and rape charges), some of whom then disappeared and others of whom committed serious crimes while free.</p>
<p>Nick</p>
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		<title>By: CMH</title>
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		<dc:creator>CMH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-704719&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-704719&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mark Creatura&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: PatHMV is referring, with knowledge or not, to the rules applicable in California for the past 50 years.Our Code of Civil Procedure Sec 170.6 permits any party to disqualify a judge peremptorily.There are tens of thousands of CA lawyers who could say more than I can about how well this procedure works, but I haven’t heard that it has been disastrous.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I just read an article within the last two weeks or so that this statute was being used by a District Attorney&#039;s office in the San Diego area to systematically disqualify one particular judge from hearing all criminal cases assigned to him.

I don&#039;t know enough about it to say whether it constitutes &quot;disastrous&quot; or not, but the concept of the State&#039;s ability to unilaterally prohibit a particular judge from hearing criminal cases doesn&#039;t sit well with me - especially without any explanation for the reason why.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-704719" rel="nofollow">Mark Creatura</a></strong>: PatHMV is referring, with knowledge or not, to the rules applicable in California for the past 50 years.Our Code of Civil Procedure Sec 170.6 permits any party to disqualify a judge peremptorily.There are tens of thousands of CA lawyers who could say more than I can about how well this procedure works, but I haven’t heard that it has been disastrous.</p>
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<p>I just read an article within the last two weeks or so that this statute was being used by a District Attorney&#8217;s office in the San Diego area to systematically disqualify one particular judge from hearing all criminal cases assigned to him.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know enough about it to say whether it constitutes &#8220;disastrous&#8221; or not, but the concept of the State&#8217;s ability to unilaterally prohibit a particular judge from hearing criminal cases doesn&#8217;t sit well with me &#8211; especially without any explanation for the reason why.</p>
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		<title>By: NickM</title>
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		<dc:creator>NickM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A judge could have been a politician himself - Jack Miller, Hugo Black, Sam Chapman, George Sangmeister, Abner Mikva, etc.

A friend of mine had a very interesting issue arise a few years ago in an action against the University of California, Los Angeles.  The university was seeking his client&#039;s business property as part of an eminent domain acquisition (off-campus facilities).  The issue in the action was the FMV to be paid.  The judge assigned to the case had gone to UCLA Law School, and was a sizable donor to the university.  The judge did not disclose either fact (the graduation would be easily accessible knowledge; that he was a substantial donor would not be easy to find unless you received almuni magazines or wanted to make a trip to the administration building and look through donor records).  My friend did not look up the judge&#039;s background.

On appeal (the judge agreed with the university&#039;s determination of the FMV), one issue raised was that the judge should have disclosed the relationship with the litigant, and that even if the appellate court could not find that as a matter of law a reasonable person would question the judge&#039;s impartiality, this information was material and would have led to a peremptory challenge being filed against that judge.

One of the three justices on the appellate panel was not only a graduate of UCLA Law School, but was a substantial donor, was very active in the alumni association, Moot Court, and similar programs, and had even been named as Alumnus of the Year from UCLA Law School.  [California&#039;s peremptory challenge procedure is limited to the trial courts.]  He was very hostile at oral argument to the notion that support by a judge for his alma mater could affect the judge&#039;s impartiality or a reasonable person&#039;s perception of the same when the school was a litigant.  The appellant lost.

Stepping back from these situations, the decisions seem wrong to me.  I don&#039;t think a reasonable person feels confident that the judge&#039;s decision is unbiased under these circumstances.  Yet a contrary ruling would force judges (especially those in &quot;college towns&quot;) to sever ties with the schools they went to, which cannot be a good thing.

Disclosure:  I don&#039;t personally know the trial judge.  In the only matter I ever had in front of him, my client filed Chapter 7 without having appeared.  I do know the appellate justice, who I first met as an undergrad and I regard quite highly.

Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A judge could have been a politician himself &#8211; Jack Miller, Hugo Black, Sam Chapman, George Sangmeister, Abner Mikva, etc.</p>
<p>A friend of mine had a very interesting issue arise a few years ago in an action against the University of California, Los Angeles.  The university was seeking his client&#8217;s business property as part of an eminent domain acquisition (off-campus facilities).  The issue in the action was the FMV to be paid.  The judge assigned to the case had gone to UCLA Law School, and was a sizable donor to the university.  The judge did not disclose either fact (the graduation would be easily accessible knowledge; that he was a substantial donor would not be easy to find unless you received almuni magazines or wanted to make a trip to the administration building and look through donor records).  My friend did not look up the judge&#8217;s background.</p>
<p>On appeal (the judge agreed with the university&#8217;s determination of the FMV), one issue raised was that the judge should have disclosed the relationship with the litigant, and that even if the appellate court could not find that as a matter of law a reasonable person would question the judge&#8217;s impartiality, this information was material and would have led to a peremptory challenge being filed against that judge.</p>
<p>One of the three justices on the appellate panel was not only a graduate of UCLA Law School, but was a substantial donor, was very active in the alumni association, Moot Court, and similar programs, and had even been named as Alumnus of the Year from UCLA Law School.  [California's peremptory challenge procedure is limited to the trial courts.]  He was very hostile at oral argument to the notion that support by a judge for his alma mater could affect the judge&#8217;s impartiality or a reasonable person&#8217;s perception of the same when the school was a litigant.  The appellant lost.</p>
<p>Stepping back from these situations, the decisions seem wrong to me.  I don&#8217;t think a reasonable person feels confident that the judge&#8217;s decision is unbiased under these circumstances.  Yet a contrary ruling would force judges (especially those in &#8220;college towns&#8221;) to sever ties with the schools they went to, which cannot be a good thing.</p>
<p>Disclosure:  I don&#8217;t personally know the trial judge.  In the only matter I ever had in front of him, my client filed Chapter 7 without having appeared.  I do know the appellate justice, who I first met as an undergrad and I regard quite highly.</p>
<p>Nick</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Creatura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Creatura</dc:creator>
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		<description>PatHMV is referring, with knowledge or not, to the rules applicable in California for the past 50 years.  Our Code of Civil Procedure Sec 170.6 permits any party to disqualify a judge peremptorily.  There are tens of thousands of CA lawyers who could say more than I can about how well this procedure works, but I haven&#039;t heard that it has been disastrous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PatHMV is referring, with knowledge or not, to the rules applicable in California for the past 50 years.  Our Code of Civil Procedure Sec 170.6 permits any party to disqualify a judge peremptorily.  There are tens of thousands of CA lawyers who could say more than I can about how well this procedure works, but I haven&#8217;t heard that it has been disastrous.</p>
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		<title>By: FantasiaWHT</title>
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		<dc:creator>FantasiaWHT</dc:creator>
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		<description>@PatHMV

Wisconsin has an automatic right of substitution for both civil matters (Wis. Stat. 801.58) and criminal (Wis. Stat. 971.20) - you get one new judge, no questions asked (more or less).</description>
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<p>Wisconsin has an automatic right of substitution for both civil matters (Wis. Stat. 801.58) and criminal (Wis. Stat. 971.20) &#8211; you get one new judge, no questions asked (more or less).</p>
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		<title>By: PatHMV</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/12/10/some-broad-thoughts-on-judicial-recusal/comment-page-1/#comment-704703</link>
		<dc:creator>PatHMV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having once filed (and lost, in a bizarre adversarial hearing in which the argument on behalf of the judge&#039;s being unbiased was made by the defense attorneys) a motion to recuse a judge in a criminal matter, I think we should give greater consideration to some type of peremptory challenge process, whereby each side gets to nix one judge (in jurisdictions where there are sufficient judges to make this not too burdensome).

In our jurisdiction, one judge mysteriously seemed to always be the one getting a particular type of corruption case. There wasn&#039;t enough evidence available to support any actual disciplinary proceedings, but very few people were left with a belief in her impartiality. A peremptory challenge vehicle would allow for the occasional recusal  without actual &quot;cause&quot; (and without any taint on the judge so challenged), and should have a long-term effect of ameliorating some of the worst abuses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having once filed (and lost, in a bizarre adversarial hearing in which the argument on behalf of the judge&#8217;s being unbiased was made by the defense attorneys) a motion to recuse a judge in a criminal matter, I think we should give greater consideration to some type of peremptory challenge process, whereby each side gets to nix one judge (in jurisdictions where there are sufficient judges to make this not too burdensome).</p>
<p>In our jurisdiction, one judge mysteriously seemed to always be the one getting a particular type of corruption case. There wasn&#8217;t enough evidence available to support any actual disciplinary proceedings, but very few people were left with a belief in her impartiality. A peremptory challenge vehicle would allow for the occasional recusal  without actual &#8220;cause&#8221; (and without any taint on the judge so challenged), and should have a long-term effect of ameliorating some of the worst abuses.</p>
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		<title>By: FantasiaWHT</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/12/10/some-broad-thoughts-on-judicial-recusal/comment-page-1/#comment-704699</link>
		<dc:creator>FantasiaWHT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you think about motions addressed to the court as a whole (specifically to the highest court in a jurisdiction) to disqualify a fellow sitting justice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you think about motions addressed to the court as a whole (specifically to the highest court in a jurisdiction) to disqualify a fellow sitting justice?</p>
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		<title>By: Recusal Changes in Michigan</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/12/10/some-broad-thoughts-on-judicial-recusal/comment-page-1/#comment-704696</link>
		<dc:creator>Recusal Changes in Michigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just want to make sure you&#039;re aware of the interesting changes to recusal rules that are occurring in Michigan (due in part to Capteron)...

http://courts.michigan.gov/SUPREMECOURT/Resources/Administrative/2009-04-112509.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just want to make sure you&#8217;re aware of the interesting changes to recusal rules that are occurring in Michigan (due in part to Capteron)&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://courts.michigan.gov/SUPREMECOURT/Resources/Administrative/2009-04-112509.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://courts.michigan.gov/SUPREMECOURT/Resources/Administrative/2009-04-112509.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Just Dropping By</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/12/10/some-broad-thoughts-on-judicial-recusal/comment-page-1/#comment-704683</link>
		<dc:creator>Just Dropping By</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;A constitutional case may affect the rights of the judge alongside the rights of millions of others, for instance if a female judge is ruling in a case involving the Equal Protection Clause and sex classification — or if a male judge is ruling in the same case.&lt;/i&gt;

We clearly need more hermaphrodites and/or neuters on the federal bench.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>A constitutional case may affect the rights of the judge alongside the rights of millions of others, for instance if a female judge is ruling in a case involving the Equal Protection Clause and sex classification — or if a male judge is ruling in the same case.</i></p>
<p>We clearly need more hermaphrodites and/or neuters on the federal bench.</p>
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		<title>By: troll_dc2</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/12/10/some-broad-thoughts-on-judicial-recusal/comment-page-1/#comment-704666</link>
		<dc:creator>troll_dc2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can think of another device that litigants used to try to force the recusal of a judge (William W. Justice of the Eastern District of Texas) whom they did not want to preside in their cases. They got a relative (a cousin, I think) to be one of their lawyers. Eventually this practice got stopped, but it created a mess in Tyler, Texas for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can think of another device that litigants used to try to force the recusal of a judge (William W. Justice of the Eastern District of Texas) whom they did not want to preside in their cases. They got a relative (a cousin, I think) to be one of their lawyers. Eventually this practice got stopped, but it created a mess in Tyler, Texas for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Cite-Checking Troll</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/12/10/some-broad-thoughts-on-judicial-recusal/comment-page-1/#comment-704657</link>
		<dc:creator>Cite-Checking Troll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cite to &lt;em&gt;Caperton&lt;/em&gt; is wrong.  Petty, I know.

[Whoops, thanks very much for the catch!  Fixed it. -EV]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cite to <em>Caperton</em> is wrong.  Petty, I know.</p>
<p>[Whoops, thanks very much for the catch!  Fixed it. -EV]</p>
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		<title>By: corneille1640</title>
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		<dc:creator>corneille1640</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
We want judges to be free to continue their social lives, and in large measure their financial lives.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I can see the argument for not wanting to impair a judge&#039;s family members&#039; financial lives/careers.  But why not require judges, at least those with lifetime tenure, to put all their funds in a blind trust or otherwise divest themselves?  It certainly wouldn&#039;t solve all problems--if there are indeed that many problems to begin with--but it might be something to chew over.</description>
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We want judges to be free to continue their social lives, and in large measure their financial lives.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I can see the argument for not wanting to impair a judge&#8217;s family members&#8217; financial lives/careers.  But why not require judges, at least those with lifetime tenure, to put all their funds in a blind trust or otherwise divest themselves?  It certainly wouldn&#8217;t solve all problems&#8211;if there are indeed that many problems to begin with&#8211;but it might be something to chew over.</p>
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		<title>By: tim baughman</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim baughman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent.

Do you see a separation of powers issue if Congress were to pass a statute requiring that a justice who denies a recusal motion then submit the motion to the whole Court, with the statute giving the majority of the remaining justices the authority to remove the challenged justice from consideration of the underlying case?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent.</p>
<p>Do you see a separation of powers issue if Congress were to pass a statute requiring that a justice who denies a recusal motion then submit the motion to the whole Court, with the statute giving the majority of the remaining justices the authority to remove the challenged justice from consideration of the underlying case?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lubet</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/12/10/some-broad-thoughts-on-judicial-recusal/comment-page-1/#comment-704622</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Lubet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I haven’t heard much evidence that there is indeed a serious problem in the federal judiciary with bias towards or against various parties.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Perhaps there is no problem because the federal recusal standard -- whether a judge’s “impartiality might reasonably be questioned&quot; -- works pretty well.

Also, I think that the fear of 4-4 splits is overdrawn.  According to a study by Ryan Black and Lee Epstein, there were only 49 such ties during the period 1946-2003, fewer than one per year, although 599 cases were decided by eight-member courts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;I haven’t heard much evidence that there is indeed a serious problem in the federal judiciary with bias towards or against various parties.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps there is no problem because the federal recusal standard &#8212; whether a judge’s “impartiality might reasonably be questioned&#8221; &#8212; works pretty well.</p>
<p>Also, I think that the fear of 4-4 splits is overdrawn.  According to a study by Ryan Black and Lee Epstein, there were only 49 such ties during the period 1946-2003, fewer than one per year, although 599 cases were decided by eight-member courts.</p>
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		<title>By: Dilan Esper</title>
		<link>http://volokh.com/2009/12/10/some-broad-thoughts-on-judicial-recusal/comment-page-1/#comment-704615</link>
		<dc:creator>Dilan Esper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think the correct test for recusal was stated by justice stewaer in his concurrence in jacobellis v. ohio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think the correct test for recusal was stated by justice stewaer in his concurrence in jacobellis v. ohio.</p>
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