The Volokh Conspiracy

Pressure on New London Development Corp:

The battle over evicting the Kelo homeowners continues to heat up. News reports are somewhat spotty and it is hard for me to figure out precisely what is going on with respect to the New London Development Corp. and their efforts to evict the Kelo homeowners. Tom Blumer at Bizzyblog, however, is reporting that in light of the recent efforts of the NLDC to evict the homeowners and to charge them back rent for the past five years, the New London City Council is pressuring the NLDC to remove its chief executive or be dissolved. Tom also reports that the NLDC is rallying behind its executives and will not force them to resign. (Note: Some of the links are registration only and some have expired.) Looks like a real showdown is brewing.

Stephen A. Brown, Esq. (mail):
The City Council is pressuring the development corp to dissolve? But they created the development corp. In the words of Mary Shelley: "IT's A MONSTER!!!"
9.23.2005 11:34am
Public_Defender:
Where's Pfizer in all this? The NLDC took the land for Pfizer's benefit. Has there been any pressure on the company? Pfizer always has interests before Congress. If the Republican congerssional leadership wanted to give more than lip-service to property rights, they could really twist some arms.

Pfizer could end this today by saying, "if you force people out their homes, we ain't coming."
9.23.2005 11:52am
DK:
Pfizer can't say "we ain't coming" b/c they are already there. Pfizer built the facility, and _then_ New London decided to put developments in nearby. This is not a case of a company asking for a favor before locating a facility.

Of course, now that they are there, I have no idea what they think, and it is quite possible they have been supporting the city's plan. But without evidence we can't blame them.
9.23.2005 12:11pm
cfw (mail):
So what is to happen now? The homeowners ask to a) keep the money paid to them already for the houses and b) get excused from six years of rent and c) get attorneys fees that exceed the amounts paid for the houses?

Normally, if one wants recission, one needs to pay back the money received and pay for the value provided (eg use of the house for six years).

Once I see the homeowners offering to pay back what they have received, and pay back rent, I will agree that they are fighting for principle primarily and not the money.

Until then, it looks like over-reaching by ED contingent fee lawyers (with property owners doing their best to show emotional distress) vs. victimized tax payers.
9.23.2005 12:21pm
Shelby (mail):
cfw:

I haven't followed all the ins and outs of this, but your claims about what the homeowners are demanding are not supported by the linked materials. There's nothing there about rescission, attorneys fees, etc. And if they pay back rent, that essentially concedes the principle for which they are fighting.

If the tax payers in New London are victimized by anyone, it's their own city council, which created the NLDC, approved its plan, and committed to an immense legal fight for extremely dubious public gain.
9.23.2005 12:40pm
The Modern American (www):
cfw-

IIRC, Kelo et al are represented pro-bono by the Institute for Justice, a non-profit law firm.

In the wake of Kelo, IJ has started a subproject specifically aimed at preventing eminent domain abuse: the Castle Coalition.

It ain't about the money. If it is, they've pulled the wool over EVERYONE's eyes.
9.23.2005 12:43pm
Roy M. Poses MD (mail) (www):
Don't forget that the NLDC leadership had serious conflicts of interest back when it decided to go ahead with this project. One board member was a Pfizer VP, and the president was married to a Pfizer VP. See our original post here and later post here on Health Care Renewal.
9.23.2005 2:00pm
cathyf:

Normally, if one wants recission, one needs to pay back the money received and pay for the value provided (eg use of the house for six years).

But from what I've seen, they haven't gotten any money because the litigation was still in process. So the NLDC says, "Ok, the Supremes have ruled, now we take your land and settle up accounts"

$XX is the amount your property was assessed for in 2000
$YY is the monthly rent at 2005 market rates

The "just compensation" that the Kelo homeowners are "owed" is therefore:

$XX minus 60 times $YY.

Which is a negative number (BIG negative number). Because the rent number is based upon the 2005 value of the property -- the NLDC expects the homeowners to pay "rent" for the whole 5-year period at the most expensive 2005-year rate. AND because the property value being offered not only doesn't include appreciation, but also doesn't even include a market interest rate.

Like Public_Defender, I also wonder where Pfizer is in all of this. Pfizer has added value to its neighbors' property by locating their facility there and creating a positive externality. The NLDC are essentially stealing that windfall from the neighbors, AND now they are turning around and stealing ALL of the value of their property. They are nothing but parasites to begin with. And I'm sure that there are millions of people who believe that it's Pfizer who is the one screwing the Kelo homeowners. It's just hard for me to believe that Pfizer is putting up with this really bad publicity for something that they aren't getting any benefit from. Why doesn't the Pfizer management tell the NLDC to back off? It would seem to be their fiduciary duty to do so...

cathy :-)
9.23.2005 3:27pm
Public_Defender:
It seems like the NLDC's lawyers are intellectually brilliant, but lacking in all common sense. Pretty much every move they've made (including the eviction notices and rent demands) makes sense from a purely legal point of view.

But look where they've led their clients. The lawyers spent a ton of money taking the case through years of appeals. The project is tied up in knots. They've tarnished the name of Pfizer, the primary beneficiary of the project. And their client is on the verge of being dissolved or disfunded.
9.23.2005 4:10pm
Shelby (mail):
It seems like the NLDC's lawyers are intellectually brilliant, but lacking in all common sense.

Sometimes it's fair to blame the lawyers; this time, I think the client gets the blame. NLDC is composed of sophisticated people who can evaluate legal advice and reach their own conclusions. No lawyer forced them to take this route. (Though I agree the lawyers were fools, if they indeed pushed this approach.)
9.23.2005 6:19pm
cfw (mail):
In ED cases, at least in CA, the money is paid up front. Before the litigation. This is why we see rent claims, I believe. The homeowners want the cake and to eat it also. Second, be aware that "pro bono" counsel have not, as far as I can tell, waived their rights to apply for fees. If they have, they are nuts. I have no problem with them applying for fees, of course, but I do question if they are doing the work for free with no expectation of significant funding at the end of the road.
9.23.2005 7:01pm
arbitraryaardvark (mail) (www):
link to ij 2000 press release.In fact, in December 2000, Pfizer guaranteed a $2 million dollar line of credit for use as working capital by the NLDC. I didn't realize till just now Phizer really was behind it. Has anybody started the boycott? I'm not clear if there was one lawsuit, still continuing, or whether the lawsuit that was lost at the supreme court is a different action than whatever may be needed to resist the ongoing attempts to take the homes. News as of a week ago from IJ is that the eviction notices have been cancelled due to political pressure from the governor. If the lawsuit is over, for now anyway, IJ doesn't get fees because they lost. But I'll bet it's the best fundraising gimmick they've ever found. As I've blogged a few times, IJ won much more by losing this case, than they won in the wine case that they won.
9.24.2005 12:42am
cfw (mail):
Property owners do not lose even if the USSCT said that the condemnation was ok. They have a right to just compensation, to be decided by a jury. So far as I can tell, they have no objection to the amount deposited for the property - they simply want to keep the property.

So, once they leave, they get the money, plus interest, plus costs, expert fees, lawyer fees. If they say the rent charged is too high, they get to litigate that. I doubt that rent in New London changed much since 2000, but if it did, it gets adjusted on a reasonable basis (eg escalates every 6 months).

If property owner is now upset because, as in prime areas of CA, property went up 50% over 5 years, who does property owner have to blame? I am upset I did not buy Microsoft stock in 1985, but that is between me and my advisors, is it not?

Property owner could have taken the money (which was the objective reasonable value of the property, from all I can tell) and bought Blackacre II (a comparable property) and seen it go up in value 50%. If Kelo is upset about that sort of loss, maybe the IJ gave some bad advice, eh? Still, I am not seeing that as what is going on.

Since Kelo is complaining about rent, Kelo is not expecting to keep the real estate (in which case implied rent would be irrelevant).

More likely, they are trying to work out a settlement where they get as much as they can (net) over what was deposited before the case started, plus interest (perhaps at the legal rate, which in CA is 10%), plus attorneys fees and costs. If that happens, I see no "blood" that justifies a boycott of Pfizer, which probably put up the bulk of the $73 million that seems to be at issue.

Instead of the IJ picture of a red hand seizing a house, the more accurate graphic shows Kelo with two houses, unable to decide which to take (or irrationally demanding the blue trim as opposed to the red trim).

This is not like losing your child in war, or being jailed for a crime you did not commit. It is about emotional distress, which lawyers and (to a lesser extent) property owners have financial incentives to portray as lasting and irremediable. As before, I have a hard time seeing the Kelo demands as particularly persuasive.
9.24.2005 1:54am
M. Simon (mail) (www):
The only reason to use ED is that the property is worth more to the sellers than it is to the buyers (for whatever reason).

i.e. Pfizer gets the property cheaper than they could on the open market. Especially once word gets out that Pfizer is buying. Always a hazard when buying multiple properties for a single development.

So they use ED to avoid market hazards. It may be legal to do this. However, it is unwise because someone who will bid higher than Pfizer could relieve them of their property for the sake of a "better" return for the city.

Thus even though Pfizer would want to get a price that reflects what the property is worth to them - they are out of luck.
9.24.2005 4:41am
Public_Defender:
Sometimes it's fair to blame the lawyers; this time, I think the client gets the blame. NLDC is composed of sophisticated people who can evaluate legal advice and reach their own conclusions. No lawyer forced them to take this route. (Though I agree the lawyers were fools, if they indeed pushed this approach.)
Fair point. Although I'd go a step further. The lawyers were fools if they didn't push their clients hard not to follow this approach. One of the most important skills good lawyers have is the ability to persuade at least some of their clients not to do really stupid things.
9.24.2005 5:59am
Public_Defender:
cfw,

Your arguments are the same arguments that have led NLDC to public scorn and the brink of dissolution.

Yes, you are upset that you didn't buy Microsoft in 1985. But, to follow your analogy, these homeowners did buy in 1985, but the government forced them to sell and gave the profits to another private person.

If more developers try the rent approach in situations like this, they will may face the same public reaction. Then, the developers who used raw political power to take the land will face raw political power used against them. Which side do you think most voters will take?

Since Kelo is complaining about rent, Kelo is not expecting to keep the real estate (in which case implied rent would be irrelevant).

What do you mean by this? NLDC's position is that they have owned the land for some time now, and they deserve rent for that time. If the land is transfered back, fine, but they still want their rent.
9.24.2005 7:26am
Lee Kane (mail):
Cfw's humanity-deaf legalisms make me deeply concerned. If the law can be used to destroy people financially (and no doubt emotionally) for defending the right to their homes (or even considered for such a purpose), then the law is certainly amiss.
9.24.2005 10:19am
cfw (mail):
"What do you mean by this? NLDC's position is that they have owned the land for some time now, and they deserve rent for that time. If the land is transfered back, fine, but they still want their rent."

Not how I read the situation. If the process is unwound, developer gets back the $73 million plus interest it earned. Kelo et al get back houses (no rent paid). Each side pays its own legal fees, I assume.

"Cfw's humanity-deaf legalisms make me deeply concerned. If the law can be used to destroy people financially (and no doubt emotionally) for defending the right to their homes (or even considered for such a purpose), then the law is certainly amiss."

Not sure I am destroyed financially is I move into a similar house down the road, plus get my expenses paid. I call that inconvenience, not tragedy. You say no doubt there are owners destroyed emotionally - show me whom. Show me what they are like five years after the taking in a normal condemnation. Fully compensated financially but devastated emotionally? Not likely. Theoretical problem as opposed to practical, in my view. People who identify themslves with their property (need their proeperty to feel whole) are not to be encouraged, in my view. Falling in love with assets (cars, houses, clothes, etc.) is materialistic, not something holy that all right-thinking humanists must find compelling.

"Yes, you are upset that you didn't buy Microsoft in 1985. But, to follow your analogy, these homeowners did buy in 1985, but the government forced them to sell and gave the profits to another private person."

Suppose they took the money (reasonable in amount) deposited 6 years ago an invested in another comparable house. They lost no upside from house values increasing. No one forced them out of the housing market. They chose to take the risk that the challenge to the USSCT would fail. If well-advised, and I feel confident the lawyers pointed out the risk, they knew they could end up where they are now. I am not seeing any offers to unwind the deal (kelo keeps the house) so I still doubt that the $73 million is 50% below objective FMV in 2005.
9.24.2005 11:47am
Public_Defender:
cfw, the flaw in your argument is that you think the forced sales are final. The fight is still in the political process, and NLDC could still lose. If so, the ownership could return to the way it was at the beginning.

Your Microsoft analogy is apt. What stock was "comparable" to Microsoft? Which stocks provided the same the same risk and rate of return over the same period of time? How would you explain "comparable" to someone who bought the stock because, for example, they knew the human beings who ran the company and trusted them?

When it comes to homes, "comparable" is even more difficult. Which homes do you suggest were "comparable" to the homes the NLDC is trying to take from the owners? By "comparable," I mean price, but also a similar distance from the people, jobs, and amenities (grocery stores, etc.) that were important to the owners.

And as to "chosing the risk" of a loss, the same applies to the NLDC. It chose to use political force to take the homes. Now it whines when the homeowners use political force to fight back. Live by the political sword, die by the political sword.

Despite my criticism, I hope the NLDC keeps making arguments like yours. That will make it much, much harder for its leadership to survive, and for future similar projects to make it through the political process.
9.24.2005 1:06pm
cfw (mail):
I have no objection to reasonable compensation, however computed, plus time for a reasonable day in court. If that means re-value the properties as of when the USSCT case became final, no objection.

I also have no objection to Kelo making pitches at any time to the political branches to kill deals (but keep in mind, if the state backs out of a deal, it will likely get a claim from the developer for x millions to pay with tax dollars).

I also have no objection to legislatures or cities or counties saying we need (in our jurisdiction) a super majority before we take a house or condemn land for x type of land use.

I think it is also right and correct for the USSCT to say that the constitutuion and stare decisis make the type of land use allowable for condemned land a political and not a 5th amendment question. I see no evidence that NLDC violated any statute.

If Pfizer cannot make a deal with CT and NLDC, they are more than welcome to build their center in CA. As I recall CT nearly went bankrupt in 1993 or so. If it drives out folks like Pfizer, we may see a similar swoon in or around 2013.

Suppose the developer was to be Yale (say a new study center for underprivileged preschoolers), or a hospital run by Yale with state of the art facilities. Would that make a difference? Where is that in the 5th Amendment or our legal history? How does that make me happier if I am to lose my house (in exchange for reasonable payment, expenses, dislocation costs, etc.)?

Suppose the project is a police station - strictly public. Does that mean no house is subject to condemnation? Where is that in the 5th Amend or our legal history? It could be put to a referendum in CA, where there have been issues about moving houses for interstates (latest interstate cost 1 billion per mile). It might do alright, but I doubt it would win, if the ED process was well expalined. I fault the NLDC for not having blogs or what have you to answer faq's about ED.

I realize it is never possible to find the same house with the same view, same neighbors, same grocery store, etc. But are Americans now so fragile that they will go to pieces unless they can stay for x years at the same address? If so, is it getting to be time to bet on China as the country to beat for the next 75 years?
9.24.2005 4:08pm
Al Norris (mail):
>People who identify themslves with their property (need
>their proeperty to feel whole) are not to be encouraged,
>in my view.

It used to be, that property rights were the foundation and bedrock of the American system and inherent in our rights. Guess I'm too old fashioned, nowadays, to accept your socialist view.
9.24.2005 4:19pm
Public_Defender:
cfw, we may agree on the legalities. Although it's a close case, I think the Kelo Supreme Court majority has the better argument.

On a political level, i.e., when should a local government use its Kelo power, it's a balance of interests. That's why it's a political decision.

There has to be a darned good reason to force someone to sell. I don't think "Pfizer will pay us more taxes" is good enough. Let Pfizer deal with the holdouts or go elsewhere.

Your hospital example shows when a local government could appropriately use ED. There's a good reason to make sure there's a hospital in every locality. There is not a good reason to make sure there are pharmaceutical offices in every locality.

Companies and governments who choose the ED route should not complain about delays or political opposition/retaliation. If politicians and quasi-public officials (like the NLDC) choose to use political force to kick homeowners out of homes, the politicians should expect that the homeowners will fight back, possibly by trying to kick the politicians (and quasi-politicians like the NLDC) out of office.

Any private or semi-private agency that that tries to use the political process to take homes should not be surprised if the homeowners use the political process to cut off government funding or contracts. Private companies should be ready to take a hit to their reputations.

What would be interesting here is if New London and the state told the NLDC, "Fine, we can't force you to give the homes back without paying you, but we give you millions each year. Kiss that good-bye." The NLDC would then have to choose either to give back the homes at a loss or to lose millions in funding.

Finally, another factor that hasn't been discussed here is the possibility of civil disobedience if the government tries to physically force the homeowners out. One of the articles said there were thousands of volunteers signed up to non-violently block the takeovers. Even a fraction of that number could cause major headaches. Would the New London PD have the power and political will to overcome that?
9.24.2005 4:59pm
nobody (mail):
There has to be a darned good reason to force someone to sell. I don't think "Pfizer will pay us more taxes" is good enough. Let Pfizer deal with the holdouts or go elsewhere.

AKAIK, none of the land used by Pfizer was condemed through ED. Do you have evidence to the contrary? The land under Kelo and the others is intended to be developed into public parks, and mixed use waterfront.
9.24.2005 11:20pm
cfw (mail):
"It used to be, that property rights were the foundation and bedrock of the American system and inherent in our rights. Guess I'm too old fashioned, nowadays, to accept your socialist view."

Condemnation has been around since 1787, as I read the 5th Amendment.

Look what we are doing here: If we unwind the deal, we are wiping out 100-200 jobs in a town that needs them, in favor of idiosyncratic attachment to property. Genuflecting to the golden calf - sacred Blackacre - even if it beggars the neighbors, as I see it.

I think Pfizer has the humanist, capitalist approach. I am not seeing a big difference between an executive training center (of the sort GE used to train its executives in Croton NY) and a Yale-sponsored pre-school or hospital. Pfizer has in mind a high-quality use of property that will generate lots of jobs and revenues for people who live and work in NL. NLDC probably had a blighted area on its hands and convinced Pfizer to develop; Pfizer agreed to develop with NLDC partly out of sense of civic duty, I expect.

Those who oppose the NLDC - what one might call the NIMBY, no-growth sect - have the socialist brief. Look at the players on the condemning side - government attorneys and Pfizer attorneys - conservatives. Look at the attorneys on the property owner side - blue state (DC), liberal, pro bono do-gooders. ACLU types. (I say this as one who has donated money to the ACLU, and would be happy to have practice representing property owners in condemnation actions.) With all due respect, I believe I err (if I err) in being too capitalistic, not too socialistic, here.

"Your hospital example shows when a local government could appropriately use ED. There's a good reason to make sure there's a hospital in every locality. There is not a good reason to make sure there are pharmaceutical offices in every locality."

Not sure I would call this a business office as opposed to a place to train executives (like the Army War College). Suppose Pfizer had Yale on board and called it the Yale/Pfizer executive MBA program. How is that not the kind of institution that is as valuable or more valuable than a public high school? If this Pfizer effort fails, I suspect the view back 20 years from now amongst those left in CT will be critical of those who let emotion ride rough-shod over logic and reason. My 2 cents, with all due respect.
9.24.2005 11:27pm
David Berke:
cfw,

Does your analysis change if the following is true:
(1) Property Values have increased 50% or more since the initial condemnation, and the owners are being paid based upon the property value in 2000?
(2) Rent on the properties is being claimed for the past 5 years, resulting in half or more of the property owners owing money to give up their house?
9.25.2005 12:11am
Public_Defender:
Those who oppose the NLDC - what one might call the NIMBY, no-growth sect - have the socialist brief. Look at the players on the condemning side - government attorneys and Pfizer attorneys - conservatives. Look at the attorneys on the property owner side - blue state (DC), liberal, pro bono do-gooders.
You've made a lot of thoughtful points, so I apologize for singling out this one.

Take a look at the website of the Institute for Justice, (www.ij.org). You can call them libertarian, but calling them "socialist," or "liberal" is just silly. As to "blue state," I'll grant you that geographically. But philosophically, the IJ lawyers are about as "red state" as they come.
9.25.2005 5:28am
David M. Nieporent (www):
With all due respect, I believe I err (if I err) in being too capitalistic, not too socialistic, here.

With all due respect, that's because you don't understand the words you're using. Capitalism is based on the free exchange of property. There's nothing free about the New London exchange; it's based on government force.

And then you're just making up facts: NLDC probably had a blighted area on its hands and convinced Pfizer to develop; Pfizer agreed to develop with NLDC partly out of sense of civic duty, I expect.

None of that is true. (Indeed, if it were, it never would have gotten this far; eminent domain to cure "blight" is a firmly established principle.)
9.25.2005 7:14am
cfw (mail):

"Does your analysis change if the following is true:
(1) Property Values have increased 50% or more since the initial condemnation, and the owners are being paid based upon the property value in 2000?
(2) Rent on the properties is being claimed for the past 5 years, resulting in half or more of the property owners owing money to give up their house?"

It is always my view that property owner gets reasonable value - compensation (if anything, err on the high side). I also think there should be time for a day in court. If that process takes five years, I am not offended by a re-valuation. I suspect the 5th Amend may require that.

Rent from 5 years ago may make no sense, unless the NLDC can show the property owners saved money.

Generally, I note we have less than enough facts. Did property values go up because of the money paid in by Pfizer/NLDC?

Also, how does it make sense that rent for 5 years on a propery going up in value 50% is consuming more than the value of the property? Here, a $500,000 house rents for say $2500 per month. 60 times 2500 results in a figure of $150,000.

Other points we do not know: suppose Kelo stopped paying the mortgage but kept collecting rents from a tenant. He saves say $3000 onhis mortgage per month (on a $500,000 property) while collecting $2500 per month in rent.

Bottom line: looks like an incomplete hypothetical.

The socialist/capitalist distinction is name calling, of course. Still, I think one can be a socialist/libertarian. I suggest looking at the condemning parties over the years, for canals, railroads, interstates, airports, etc. If they are not capitalists (captains of industry) in general who benefit, I must be missing something. If Pfizer is not in the same category as Vanderbilt, I must not understand what Pfizer is about.
9.25.2005 1:46pm
David M. Nieporent (www):
Still, I think one can be a socialist/libertarian.

Then I think you misunderstand the definition of those words, as well. In theory, one could be a communist/libertarian, but one could never be a socialist libertarian. State redistribution of property is the essence of socialism and the antithesis of libertarianism.

If they are not capitalists (captains of industry) in general who benefit, I must be missing something.

What you're missing is that "capitalism" is not defined as "anything someone labeled a capitalist does," and "captain of industry" is not interchangeable with "capitalist."

Just because socialists generally justify their policies by saying they want to help the poor does not mean that government giving money to the rich is capitalist.
9.25.2005 4:13pm
cfw (mail):
Libertarian to me means someone who thinks highly of rights under the 1st, 2d, 3d, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th amendment.

A socialist libertarian would be, I suggest, a supporter of 5th amendment rights to just compensation for condemned property who goes on to say that the property can only be deeded to a public entity, developed by civil servants, improved with government owned equipment, etc.

So here, a CT Executive MBA school staffed with civil servants would be ok, but Pfizer cannot do the same sort of thing with private staff. France is socialist and has the state run university system. The US is less socialist and has Dodger Stadium (supported I believe by condemned land) and Main Place shopping center in Orange County, which I know is supported by condemned land. The socialist libertarian (as I define the animal) would frown about Dodger Stadium and Main Place.

I define capitalist functionally - if I have $73 million I want to invest in NL, I am the capitalist in the Kelo case. How is that an inaccurate definition?
9.25.2005 5:14pm
Public_Defender:
In the New London paper today, one of the NLDC members whined in a letter to the editor that the state "has changed its collective mind because of public opinion . . . ."

So, the NLDC subjects its project the whims of elected officials by trying to use eminent domain to force people out of their homes. Then the NLDC complains that the political process is accountable to public opinion.

If the NLDC did not want to subject itself to such public oversight, it should have negotiated deals with the hold outs, worked around the hold-out properties, built the project elsewhere,or dropped the project entirely.

My guess is that whatever price the hold outs were demanding would have been cheaper than five years of delays, lobbying, and litigation.
9.26.2005 7:38am
cfw (mail):

Looks like Pfizer built what it planned. If this is not what Kelo et al are trying to block, it sure looks like Pfizer is putting a ton of money into NL. Spent $270 million to have Fluor build this. Hopefully Pfizer folks will be good neighbors and use the facilities, personnel, equipment, etc. to support New London and not just Pfizer.

Photo available at www.fluor.com/hse/images/project_Pfizer_GRnDF.


Pfizer
New London, Connecticut, U.S.A.

Completed a 6-story, state-of-the-art corporate global research and development facility for worldwide regulatory compliance activities

* Was a 26-acre catalyst for the city's waterfront redevelopment
* Met aggressive requirements for safety, quality, schedule, and cost
* Provided construction management services
* Completed in 2000; a US$270 million project
9.26.2005 1:17pm
Public_Defender:
Hopefully Pfizer folks will be good neighbors. . . .

Good neighbors don't come into a neighborhood by forcing the people who already live there out of their homes. If Pfizer used eminent domain for this project, it deserves condemnation.

If Pfizer bought the land fair and square, then it shows the limits of eminent domain--the part of the project that didn't force is done. The part of the project that used the political and legal process to force people out of their homes has languished for five years.
9.26.2005 2:08pm
cfw (mail):
I note that of the 7 folks who went to the USSCT, 6 were absentee landowners. (per the NLDC)

It also looks like a blighted area was developed, even if the NLDC may not have cited blight as the justification for condemnation.

Keep in mind New London was looking at losing 10,000 jobs tied to a base closure when it undertook to redevelop Fort Trumbull.

If this is not defensible public/private development for the good of the commuinty, I am not holding out much hope for intelligent rebuilding in NOLA.

See http://www.nldc.org/documents/NLDC-EMINENTDOMAINWP.pdf
9.26.2005 3:26pm
bluespiper (mail):
I'm a member of the Coalition to Save Fort Trumbull Neighborhood and was a founding officer in the Fort Trumbull Conservancy, the group that initiated legal action against the NLDC, City of New London, and the State of Connecticut (DECD). I am amazed at the mass of disinformation that continues to be propogated over this case. To get the best view of this case, try http://cottagecoalition.org/

As to the NLDC assertion that 6 of the 7 plaintiffs in Kelo were absentee landowners, let me set the record straight. The following plaintiffs all live in the Fort neighborhood:

1. Suzette Kelo
2. Matt and Sue Dery
3. Bill Von Winkle
4. Byron Athenian
5. James Guretsky

-Michael Cristoforo's family still owns the family home on Goshen Street and a family member still resides there.

-Rich Beyer owns two houses on Goshen Street that he bought and rehabbed. He's hardly absent.

Do the Math! Five of Seven still live in Fort Trumbull.

On the other hand, Michael Joplin, President of NLDC is an absentee landlord in New London, whose property has received more police calls in one year than the entire Ft. Trumbull neighborhood has had in five.
10.26.2005 8:08pm