The Volokh Conspiracy

"Implicit" = "Explicit"?

One more item that struck me in Dahlia Lithwick's piece on Judge Alito's nomination (emphasis added):

"So rededicated is President Bush to keeping his promise to elevate a Clarence Thomas or an Antonin Scalia to the high court, that he picked the guy in the Scalia costume. Alito offers no surprises to anyone. If explicit promises to reverse Roe v. Wade are in fact the only qualification now needed to be confirmed to the Supreme Court, Alito has offered that pledge in spades: In Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v. Casey -- which later became the case that reaffirmed Roe, Alito dissented when his 3rd Circuit colleagues struck down Pennsylvania's most restrictive abortion regulations. Alito felt that none of the provisions proved an undue burden, including a requirement that women notify their spouses of their intent to have an abortion, absent narrow exceptions. Alito wrote: "The Pennsylvania legislature could have rationally believed that some married women are initially inclined to obtain an abortion without their husbands' knowledge because of perceived problems -- such as economic constraints, future plans, or the husbands' previously expressed opposition -- that may be obviated by discussion prior to the abortion."

Sandra Day O'Connor rejected that analysis, and Casey reaffirmed the central holding of Roe. Then Chief Justice Rehnquist quoted Alito's dissent in his own.

Is it really fair and accurate to describe Judge Alito's opinion in Planned Parenthood, whether one agrees with it or not, as an "explicit promise[] to reverse Roe v. Wade," a "pledge" "offered . . . in spades"? Judge Alito was applying the "undue burden" test -- a test that would strike down pre-viability abortion bans, but that would uphold some not very well-defined set of regulations that fall short of bans -- to determine the constitutionality of a spousal notification requirement, a requirement that was indeed quite short of a ban. He read "undue burden" narrowly; the Court read it more broadly.

Perhaps this should lead people to infer that he would reverse Roe if he had a chance. But an "explicit promise[]"? A "pledge" "offered . . . in spades"? True, writers may be allowed some latitude for hyperbole, but isn't "explicit" used as a figure of speech for "implicit" (or, to be more precise, "inferred by me, not implausibly but far from provably") going a little far?

Eric:
I think you are going too far with the rhetorical questions Eugene.
10.31.2005 11:49pm
Daniel Chapman (mail):
"Alito felt that none of the provisions proved an undue burden, including a requirement that women notify their spouses of their intent to have an abortion..."

Am I misreading this? Is Alito being taken to task for not applying a standard that didn't exist at the time?
10.31.2005 11:50pm
A Blogger:
Slate is a terrific site, but Lithwick is a total hack these days.
10.31.2005 11:53pm
Eugene Volokh (www):
Eric: Oh, come now. Shouldn't that be "Don't you think you are going too far with the rhetorical questions, Eugene?"?
11.1.2005 12:04am
Markusha:
Incidentally, I am with Eugene on this. It's unfair to characterize Alito as explicitly promising to overturn Roe. The reporter should have said "implicitly."
By the way, the undue burden test had been articulated by O'Connor by that time, so Alito did try to apply the SCOTUS's test and the reporter does not take him to task for applying a standard which did not exist.
I think it is a safe bet that Alito would take a far more restrictive view toward abortion than O'Connor. Whether or not it's a good or bad thing (bad, in my opinion), is another story.
11.1.2005 12:09am
Antares79:

Am I misreading this? Is Alito being taken to task for not applying a standard that didn't exist at the time?


If I am not mistaken, the 3d Cir already had an undue burden test from City of Akron v. Akron Center for Reproductive Health, Inc., 462 U.S. 416 (1983). SCOTUS adopted thir test in a modified form in Casey. Thus, Alito applied an existent (albeit nascent) test.

Feel free to correct me (as always).
11.1.2005 12:14am
Antares79:
Or, what Markusha said^^. :)
11.1.2005 12:15am
Markusha:
In no way this is a bait, but I am genuinely wondering whether most conservative jurists now accept Lawrence's reasoning or whether they feel as Scalia/Thomas do that the SCOTUS "has signed on to homosexual agenda". I am interested as to whether the conservatives who reject Lawrence's reasoning truly want to live in a state which criminalize a consensual sex act.
11.1.2005 12:24am
Daniel Chapman (mail):
Wasn't aware of that. I thought the Undue Burden test originated with Casey. Thanks for the correction.
11.1.2005 12:25am
Markusha:
As to Alito, I'd be very interested in his views on the 9th Amendment, i.e. whether he believes that it protects certain rights from both federal and state regulation, only state regulation, or from neither. It's too bad Roberts was never asked about it.
11.1.2005 12:26am
Shelby (mail):
I like a lot of Dahlia Lithwick's work, but she's proven incapable of dealing with political matters in anything like a balanced manner. Unfortunately she writes about legal issues for a non-legal audience, so her sweeping pronouncements are likely to be taken as fact rather than highly slanted opinion by many of her readers.

Markusha: The Senate has shown no more interest than the judiciary in reviving the Phantom Amendment. The only way Alito will face questions about the Ninth before he's confirmed will be when he holds an open-questions press conference. That is, never.
11.1.2005 12:34am
John Thacker (mail):
whether they feel as Scalia/Thomas do that the SCOTUS "has signed on to homosexual agenda"

Well, I'm wondering why Justice Thomas's name is up there, Markusha. After all, he was the one who wrote a separate dissent calling it "an uncommonly silly law" that he would personally vote against. I can understand Scalia's. Justices Scalia and Thomas may vote together fairly often, but please try not to make assumptions or it will make you look bad in cases such as this.

I agree that she's fairly obviously confused "implicit" with "explicit." Yes, finding a very narrow construction under precedent is consistent with some sort of implicit signal, but it's hardly "explicit."
11.1.2005 12:50am
Thorley Winston (mail) (www):

I like a lot of Dahlia Lithwick's work, but she's proven incapable of dealing with political matters in anything like a balanced manner.


I agree, she did a decent and balanced job on her series on the Patriot Act and civil liberties but when it comes to the SCOTUS, she's closely approaching Maureen Douwd status.
11.1.2005 12:55am
Fern R:

I am interested as to whether the conservatives who reject Lawrence's reasoning truly want to live in a state which criminalize a consensual sex act.

No, I don't. But that doesn't mean that I think the judiciary is the correct branch of government to determine such things.
11.1.2005 12:59am
Mark F. (mail):
Markusha:

No, I wouldn't care to live in a state which criminalizes sodomy. But the issue before the court wasn't whether the individual justices approved of laws against gay sex. Thomas, Scalia , Rehnquist and O'Conner all disagreed that there is an implicit right to have gay sex in the Constitution. I believe Scalia is a homophobe, but Thomas noted in a seperate dissent that he personally disagreed with the Texas law.

As much as I'd love to find a really good Constitutional rationalization for striking down most unlibertarian state laws (and Mr. Barnett gives it a good try), I just don't think the attempts are intellectually persuasive. Liberty is best served by strong federalism, not by invoking pneumbras of the 9th Amendment.
11.1.2005 12:59am
Markusha:
John,
Before you criticize me for writing about Scalia/Thomas view in Lawrence as one, please go ahead and actually check the facts. You may find out that Scalia's dissent was joined in full by Rehnquist and Thomas. Therefore, it's fair to infer that Thomas agreed with everything that Scalia wrote. It's useful to check your facts; otherwise it may make you feel bad. ;)
11.1.2005 1:11am
Markusha:
I fully believe that our Constitution protects the individuals from the most stupid flagrant unfair (etc etc) state intrusion into the most private sphere as bedroom. It does so both under the 9th amendment (the best vehicle) and under due process of the 14th amendment.
Fern, some things are intentionally removed from the democratic arena. Fundamental rights are too important to entrust to a majority's view.
11.1.2005 1:15am
James of England:
Markusha: The undesirability of living in a state that criminalised sodomy is one of the reasons that true conservatives like Thomas, whose dissent supported Scalia's but added a more explicit condemnation of the law that he would have ruled constitutional.

Some bad laws are not unconstitutional. Some good laws are unconstitutional. The constitution is not the answer to all political questions.

If you want to criticise people who don't support the holding, care to say what the holding was? The opinion certainly doesn't say. Read the law review articles, watch the inconsistent interpretations that the lower courts have tried to make of the case. Hell, read Barnett's book on his own interpretation.
11.1.2005 1:29am
Zargon (mail):
Eric: Oh, come now. Shouldn't that be "Don't you think you are going too far with the rhetorical questions, Eugene?"?

That's one of the more amusing things I've read today.

In any case, yes, she should have said "implicit". But also, see the NYT interview with his mother - she clearly labeled her son pro-life. Now, one can reasonably argue about how he'll behave on the court, but for those of us who are pro-choice, this is at the very least extremely troubling, given court composition. I'm sure, Eugene, you can accept that.

In some ways, for some of us, at least, this is similar to the Meier's debacle; Roe is perhaps a bit of a reach, as decisions go, but clearly (to me) the right result. Similarly, the politics of "states-rights-until-Schiavo" give me little faith that "movement convervatives" won't start a different chant after a change in SCOTUS law on this issue. (If you have anything to give me optimism on this one, I'm listening.)

Even if things don't end up so bad, Casey in itself is important in numerous ways, as is Griswald. Or at least, I suspect a majority of people in the US would be surprised at the results of their reversal.

I'm leaving aside troubling implications of many of his civil rights decisions (the strip search of the 10 year old is complicated, and not on topic), but I can't say I'm fond of this pick.
11.1.2005 1:51am
beth (mail):

Zargon and Markusha,

I also have concerns about Alito. The majority opinion in Casey outlines some pretty chilling consequences for married women if his legal logic (in his Casey dissent) is adopted by SCOTUS.
11.1.2005 3:04am
John Thacker (mail):
You may find out that Scalia's dissent was joined in full by Rehnquist and Thomas. Therefore, it's fair to infer that Thomas agreed with everything that Scalia wrote.

I don't think your second statement follows from your first, especially when Justice Thomas wrote a second separate opinion that is, you must admit, rather hard to reconcile with the argument you've presented. Certainly it's difficult to reconcile his separate opinion with your sentence that follows below. Why not assume that he agreed with Scalia's opinion except where his separate opinion must obviously conflict with Scalia's rhetorical flourishes? Therefore I must disagree, and say that no, it is not fair to claim such.

I am interested as to whether the conservatives who reject Lawrence's reasoning truly want to live in a state which criminalize a consensual sex act.

No, not at all, I think it would be an idiotic thing as public policy. I agree with Justice Thomas's separate dissent.

Roe is perhaps a bit of a reach, as decisions go, but clearly (to me) the right result.

Zargon, are you saying that you care only about the outcomes, not the law? I hope not, but it certainly ends up sounding a little that way, like you're looking for the best theory to support a decision you've already made. And frankly, I have difficult understanding why Roe would "clearly" be the right result to anyone. I find it perfectly easy to understand the claims of both sides.

Similarly, the politics of "states-rights-until-Schiavo" give me little faith that "movement convervatives" won't start a different chant after a change in SCOTUS law on this issue. (If you have anything to give me optimism on this one, I'm listening.)

Sure. Look at the actual rulings of the Court. The members of the Court are indeed very consistent in their rulings. I freely admit that the majority of political partisans (on both sides) are purely outcome-based and do not care about consistency or Constitutional theory as such. But I think that there are quite a few recent cases (consider the medical marijuana one, for example) where Justices (on both sides, though perhaps the justices in the middle less so) have followed their Constitutional theories even to results whose public policy they did not like. In Justice Scalia's case, he has repeatedly and publically in speeches categorically stated that the Constitution is silent on abortion and that Congress has no power to restrict it at a federal level.
11.1.2005 3:06am
Thorley Winston (mail) (www):

Thomas, Scalia , Rehnquist and O'Conner all disagreed that there is an implicit right to have gay sex in the Constitution. I believe Scalia is a homophobe, but Thomas noted in a seperate dissent that he personally disagreed with the Texas law.


I don’t think that’s a fair statement of Justice Scalia. His mentioning of the “so-called homosexual agenda” was directed as a criticism for the majority in taking sides culture war based on their own preferences. While my own views are closer to Thomas’ – Scalia’s point was a valid one. Looking at the comment in context:

Today’s opinion is the product of a Court, which is the product of a law-profession culture, that has largely signed on to the so-called homosexual agenda, by which I mean the agenda promoted by some homosexual activists directed at eliminating the moral opprobrium that has traditionally attached to homosexual conduct. I noted in an earlier opinion the fact that the American Association of Law Schools (to which any reputable law school must seek to belong) excludes from membership any school that refuses to ban from its job-interview facilities a law firm (no matter how small) that does not wish to hire as a prospective partner a person who openly engages in homosexual conduct. See Romer, supra, at 653.

One of the most revealing statements in today’s opinion is the Court’s grim warning that the criminalization of homosexual conduct is “an invitation to subject homosexual persons to discrimination both in the public and in the private spheres.” Ante, at 14. It is clear from this that the Court has taken sides in the culture war, departing from its role of assuring, as neutral observer, that the democratic rules of engagement are observed. Many Americans do not want persons who openly engage in homosexual conduct as partners in their business, as scoutmasters for their children, as teachers in their children’s schools, or as boarders in their home. They view this as protecting themselves and their families from a lifestyle that they believe to be immoral and destructive. The Court views it as “discrimination” which it is the function of our judgments to deter. So imbued is the Court with the law profession’s anti-anti-homosexual culture, that it is seemingly unaware that the attitudes of that culture are not obviously “mainstream”; that in most States what the Court calls “discrimination” against those who engage in homosexual acts is perfectly legal; that proposals to ban such “discrimination” under Title VII have repeatedly been rejected by Congress, see Employment Non-Discrimination Act of 1994, S. 2238, 103d Cong., 2d Sess. (1994); Civil Rights Amendments, H. R. 5452, 94th Cong., 1st Sess. (1975); that in some cases such “discrimination” is mandated by federal statute, see 10 U.S.C. § 654(b)(1) (mandating discharge from the armed forces of any service member who engages in or intends to engage in homosexual acts); and that in some cases such “discrimination” is a constitutional right, see Boy Scouts of America v. Dale, 530 U.S. 640 (2000).

Let me be clear that I have nothing against homosexuals, or any other group, promoting their agenda through normal democratic means. Social perceptions of sexual and other morality change over time, and every group has the right to persuade its fellow citizens that its view of such matters is the best. That homosexuals have achieved some success in that enterprise is attested to by the fact that Texas is one of the few remaining States that criminalize private, consensual homosexual acts. But persuading one’s fellow citizens is one thing, and imposing one’s views in absence of democratic majority will is something else. I would no more require a State to criminalize homosexual acts–or, for that matter, display any moral disapprobation of them–than I would forbid it to do so. What Texas has chosen to do is well within the range of traditional democratic action, and its hand should not be stayed through the invention of a brand-new “constitutional right” by a Court that is impatient of democratic change. It is indeed true that “later generations can see that laws once thought necessary and proper in fact serve only to oppress,” ante, at 18; and when that happens, later generations can repeal those laws. But it is the premise of our system that those judgments are to be made by the people, and not imposed by a governing caste that knows best.



I think that he’s also correct in his concerns about the (unintended?) consequences of this decision that go far beyond merely invaliding a State’s sodomy statute. There are a lot of laws governing consensual adult behavior that he listed which while as a libertarian I’m not big on criminalizing, I would prefer that such decisions be left up to democratically-elected legislatures that better reflect concerns of the people at the local level than some blanket declaration that this is now a “constitutional right.”
11.1.2005 4:32am
Medis:
I don't think there is even an implicit promise in Alito's dissent in Casey with respect to Roe.
11.1.2005 7:43am
Scipio (mail) (www):
Just another hit piece from Lithwick. Reminds me much of what Katrina vanden Heuvel said yesterday on NPR about Judge Alito promoting discrimination, and how Rich Lowry and the NPR host just let it stand. It's part and parcel of the deeply sick turn judicial nominations have taken that people can get away with presenting the idea that discrimination of any kind is a bad thing. As if the signs that say "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" advocate invidious discrimination.
11.1.2005 9:30am
Seamus (mail):
Saying "explicit" when you mean "implicit" affects me like fingernails on a blackboard, a little like the use of "literally" to mean "figuratively" (as in "I literally exploded with rage when I read Dalia Lithwick's article").
11.1.2005 9:44am
Richard Riley (mail):
Seamus, there's a clever item in Slate today pointing out that the non-literal use of "literally" to mean "figuratively" has a centuries-old pedigree.

I like Dahlia Lithwick's Supreme Court reporting, but I agree with Eugene that her hit piece on Alito was unfair. Interestingly, with the favorable profile of Alito in the N.Y. Times today, and few if any liberal law professors rushing to the barricades to oppose the nomination (see the measured pieces from a couple of legal academics in the New Republic online today), I think the tide is running in Alito's direction. Tradesports currently has the odds in favor of his confirmation at 78%, which seems about right.
11.1.2005 9:58am
Zargon (mail):
Zargon, are you saying that you care only about the outcomes, not the law? I hope not, but it certainly ends up sounding a little that way, like you're looking for the best theory to support a decision you've already made. And frankly, I have difficult understanding why Roe would "clearly" be the right result to anyone. I find it perfectly easy to understand the claims of both sides.

Sorry, I was phrasing poorly. I care greatly about the law. I also care about outcomes. The practical consequence of reversing Roe troubles me, even though that may be correct as a matter of law, because of what I was talking about below: the "Federalists" who were so quick to embrace congressional Schiavo posturing.

As I stated, it is "clearly" correct to me. I have no problems understanding most of the anti-choice arguments (some are incoherent, just as some pro-choice arguments are). Some of them I can even see as self-consistent with their larger ethical underpinnings. I simply believe them to be incorrect.


Similarly, the politics of "states-rights-until-Schiavo" give me little faith that "movement convervatives" won't start a different chant after a change in SCOTUS law on this issue. (If you have anything to give me optimism on this one, I'm listening.)



Sure. Look at the actual rulings of the Court. The members of the Court are indeed very consistent in their rulings. I freely admit that the majority of political partisans (on both sides) are purely outcome-based and do not care about consistency or Constitutional theory as such. But I think that there are quite a few recent cases (consider the medical marijuana one, for example) where Justices (on both sides, though perhaps the justices in the middle less so) have followed their Constitutional theories even to results whose public policy they did not like. In Justice Scalia's case, he has repeatedly and publically in speeches categorically stated that the Constitution is silent on abortion and that Congress has no power to restrict it at a federal level.


Raich is an interesting case wrt Scalia. I haven't read it in a while, so I can't cite specifics, but it read to me as if he were reaching for a specific outcome.

Idle speculation: I wonder if Congress decided to restrict the performance of abortions via the Commerce Clause, what would Scalia have to say about that? If intrastate cultivation and possession for personal medical use affects interstate commerce, surely intrastate abortion services do, too.
11.1.2005 10:19am
Jack John (mail):
I think it is a safe bet that Alito would take a far more restrictive view toward abortion than O'Connor. Whether or not it's a good or bad thing (bad, in my opinion), is another story.

Yes, he would apply O'Connor's test differently than O'Connor did. But that is because incoherent O'Connor reversed herself, not because he is an activist who did not properly apply the law as it existed at the time. Kennedy makes the same point in his dissent in Stenberg.
11.1.2005 10:23am
Jack John (mail):
I am interested as to whether the conservatives who reject Lawrence's reasoning truly want to live in a state which criminalize a consensual sex act.

Sure they do. Plenty of conservatives live in Alabama, which bans the sale of sex toys. If you don't like it: move. Travel is a fundamental right and has been since the Founding.
11.1.2005 10:24am
Jack John (mail):
But also, see the NYT interview with his mother - she clearly labeled her son pro-life.

No, a 90-year-old mother who is a devout Roman Catholic answered that her son, of course, was against abortion. Wouldn't any good Roman Catholic son who loved his mother sho is nearing death revere the Lord and be against abortion? Of course, my little wittle Sammy Sam is against abortion, you idiotic reporter! I raised him right! Now where is my oxygen tank?
11.1.2005 10:28am
Duncan Frissell (mail):
Markusha - I am interested as to whether the conservatives who reject Lawrence's reasoning truly want to live in a state which criminalize a consensual sex act.

Well we all do. All states outlaw incest, inter-generational sex, paid sex, and public sex (even Nevada and Oregon). Most also restrict sex between guards and prisoners, among or by certain public employees, etc. (Eugene, as a public employee can you tell us with whom you may not have sex. I assume there are some categories of persons covered.)

There are plenty of these bans.
11.1.2005 4:19pm
snark:
Did the undue burden test exist before Casey? Well, I'd say that in Akron, the test was still embryonic, so the test didn't count until it was really born in Casey.

Isn't that the whole point?

(With apologies to Seinfeld re the pizza-in-the-oven episode.)
11.1.2005 5:18pm
Unnamed Co-Conspirator:
Not to worry, Beth. Once Roe v. Wade is no longer the law of the land, state legislatures will take the guesswork out of abortion rights. If you don't want a spousal consent requirement, you'll be able to call your state rep and senator and tell him or her what you think and have it be more than just an exercise in futility. The downside is that NARAL and PFAW will have to find different schtick to help with their con--I mean fundraising.
11.2.2005 8:20pm
Tom Dunson (mail) (www):
"Slate is a terrific site, but Lithwick is a total hack these days."
That sounds about half right.
11.3.2005 9:54pm