The Volokh Conspiracy

Lots of Very Interesting Posts
at BlackProf.com recently. Check out the comments, too.
carpundit (www):
I will take a closer look, Orin, based on your recommendation. But I have a problem with the premise. I have trouble accepting anything deliberately divided by race. Whiteprof.com would be vilified, wouldn't it?
11.4.2005 9:44pm
Sebastianguy99 (mail):
Most law blogs are de facto white, I've yet to read any complaints from anyone.
11.4.2005 10:54pm
Visitor Again:
So you have a problem with accepting black professors getting together to discuss problems confronting the black community and the impact of all kinds of things on the black community?

Does it offend your sensibilities that black folks would get together to talk about, say, racism against black folks?

Does it bother you that black folks would have the temerity to think that some of their interests are different than those of other folks?

Black folks were enslaved for centuries, they were subjected to racial segregation in public life until fairly recently and they are still the subject of racial discrimination and residential segregation, and yet it disturbs you that they would get together to discuss things from their point of view?

By all means, get on over there to BlackProf. You might learn that some black people address problems that other people rarely if ever bother to address, that the black community has distinct problems that don't get sufficient attention elsewhere, that some black folks have very different perspectives on things and so on.

The BlackProfs don't bar anyone from contributing comments on the pieces on the site. You can even tell them it bothers you that they've set up their own website. Go on, ask them why they've done it. I'm sure they'll enlighten you in a much more thorough way than I can.

Oh, and just for the record, it is duplicitous and arrogant beyond belief to insist that black folks act as if they are color blind in a society that is not and never has been color blind towards them.
11.5.2005 1:34am
Troy H:
And you would still complain if there were a site named "WhiteProf" so get over your racial self-righteousness and don't pretend that's not so.

There's nothing wrong with having BlackProf, but the ironic thing is that WhiteProf would be considered by many (most?) to be racist.
11.5.2005 9:13am
Per Son:
One cannot even begin to compare "Blackprof" with "Whiteprof."
11.5.2005 10:32am
Cutler (mail) (www):
Looks like he just did.
11.5.2005 12:03pm
Bruce Hayden (mail) (www):
My vote is Maleprof, given that I see more relevant male legal issues than I do white male issues. Besides, I think that a lot of white guys think of themselves as guys before they think of themselve as white.

Nevertheless, the racial thing may end up being the way that judge Alito is attacked. blackprof.com seems to be taking him to task for some decisions in which she doesn't think he has enough sensitivity to civil rights.

And I do see this as being judge Alito's potential weakness. He seems too geeky to really comprehend the political correctness or requirements of certain views, such as civil rights. So, in the Kithcart case she cites, he finds that two black men in a black sportscar may not be sufficient for probable cause, but maybe enough for a reasonable suspician. The problem is that he wasn't looking at it (IMHO) from a position sensitive to racial profiling, but rather was just looking at it as if it had been two blonde women in a white sportscar.
11.5.2005 12:49pm
Bruce Hayden (mail) (www):
An extra word there. Let's try again: My vote is Maleprof, given that I see more relevant male legal issues than I do white male issues.
11.5.2005 12:51pm
Per Son:
One cannot begin to compare in a genuine and intellectual matter.
11.5.2005 1:10pm
Troy H:
Why not per son? "Black" is as broad a designation as "white" encompassing many ethnic and language groups.

One cannot compare intelligently because in the head of someone (I don't know you so I won't presume) the wrod "racist" is running and if this thread were interesting enough to run for awhile the "R" word would eventually dropped (maybe not here in the VC where most everyone -- except for Gallagher's posts -- responds in a substantive and mostly edifying way. Perhaps the comparison cannot (and should not) be made genuinely and intellectually because it is a distracting, disingenuous, and politically loaded label?

Again, morally who cares? Have a blog and call it whiteprof, blackprof, or "what's black, white, and red all over prof", but don't pretend it's not a racial segregation.
11.5.2005 5:59pm
Jam (mail):
How about SouthernProf?
11.6.2005 7:34am
Sebastianguy99 (mail):
Why not just go read the blog, engage on the issues raised, and let the discourse flow? I check-out the blog everyday. There is a leftward bias yes, but there is not a militant racial bias.

I think it would be a benefit for loyalists of both blogs to have a dialogue about legal and political issues. It seems that so many are afraid to have their perspectives challenged and so they tend to seek and stay on blogs that agree with that disposition. It is much easier to talk about "the other", rather than to talk to the other.


Until one has actually engaged in discussions on a broad range of issues somewhere, and through that actual contact drawn certain conclusions, all of this professed disdainment over a name carries zero moral weight.

If one's legal positions is not tainted by race, then what better way to actually demonstrate that by talking with someone who will not automatically validate your position?
11.7.2005 3:41pm
Sebastianguy99 (mail):
Yikes!


"If one's legal positions is not tainted by race..."


should of course read: "If one's legal positions are not tainted by race.
11.7.2005 3:43pm
Clara (www):
I'm a bit conflicted. On the one hand, I always flinch when I hear the phrase "the black community." Surely they aren't as homogenous as that. I know many black people whose political, religious and philosophical views span the entire spectrum.

Then again, plenty of groups voluntarily self-segregate -- or at least try to present a united front in some academic discipline. Example: the website Judge and Jewry. What it should be called is Judge and Libertarian-Leaning Pro-Israel Jewry. Similary, I'd argue (based on a cursory reading of the BlackProf website), thise site is more like BlackProgressiveProf.
11.8.2005 3:11pm