Is There A Secret Law In the GIlmore Case?:
I've been mulling over the Gilmore case some more, and it occcurs to me that the notion that there is a "secret law" in that case may be a fiction, the invention of a civil complaint that was accepted as true for the purposes of a 12(b)(6) motion to dismiss.
Here's my thinking. John Gilmore claimed in his complaint that the TSA was relying on a "secret law," apparently based on statements made to him at the Oakland airport by airline employees. The district court accepted this claim as true for the purpose of the motion to dismiss. Now, on appeal, DOJ is in the rather odd situation of having to accept for procedural purposes that such a secret law exists, even though it may not. Its argument is that, assuming such a law exists, Gilmore has no case.
How likely is it that there is a secret law at issue in this case? I'm not sure, but the more I look at it, the less likely it seems. If you listen to the oral argument around the 27 minute mark, the DOJ attorney is saying that they're not disclosing whether the TSA's actions are based on a policy, informal guidance, a regulation, or whatnot only because there is a regulation blocking the disclosure of TSA's practices (presumably promulgated under a statute like 49 U.S.C. 114(s)). An airline employee did tell Gilmore that while he wasn't sure where the rules came from, it was possible there was an "FAA regulation" on this. However, such a tentative statement from an unnamed airline employee to a contrarian passenger isn't a very reliable source of evidence.
So in the end, it may be that this litigation looks troublesome because DOJ is in a weird situation: the secrecy regulations may be blocking them from disclosing that there is no secret law at all. I can't be sure, of course, but I think it's a significant possibility.
UPDATE: To clarify a bit, I hope readers will note the difference between a "secrecy law" (a law concerning secrecy) and a "secret law" (a law that is itself secret). The U.S. Code contains a number of provisions that permit the TSA to keep information secret; this Slate article is a good summary. Such provisions are secrecy laws; the laws are public, but permit nondisclosure rules. I am assuing that "secret laws" are different; they are laws that themselves are secret. Thus, the possibility explored in this post is that the secrecy laws in the U.S. Code may be blocking disclosure of the fact that there is no secret law, contrary to Gilmore's claim in his complaint. Does this seem rather odd? Yup, it sure does to me. But I'm just trying to figure out what is happening, not to defend the TSA.
Here's my thinking. John Gilmore claimed in his complaint that the TSA was relying on a "secret law," apparently based on statements made to him at the Oakland airport by airline employees. The district court accepted this claim as true for the purpose of the motion to dismiss. Now, on appeal, DOJ is in the rather odd situation of having to accept for procedural purposes that such a secret law exists, even though it may not. Its argument is that, assuming such a law exists, Gilmore has no case.
How likely is it that there is a secret law at issue in this case? I'm not sure, but the more I look at it, the less likely it seems. If you listen to the oral argument around the 27 minute mark, the DOJ attorney is saying that they're not disclosing whether the TSA's actions are based on a policy, informal guidance, a regulation, or whatnot only because there is a regulation blocking the disclosure of TSA's practices (presumably promulgated under a statute like 49 U.S.C. 114(s)). An airline employee did tell Gilmore that while he wasn't sure where the rules came from, it was possible there was an "FAA regulation" on this. However, such a tentative statement from an unnamed airline employee to a contrarian passenger isn't a very reliable source of evidence.
So in the end, it may be that this litigation looks troublesome because DOJ is in a weird situation: the secrecy regulations may be blocking them from disclosing that there is no secret law at all. I can't be sure, of course, but I think it's a significant possibility.
UPDATE: To clarify a bit, I hope readers will note the difference between a "secrecy law" (a law concerning secrecy) and a "secret law" (a law that is itself secret). The U.S. Code contains a number of provisions that permit the TSA to keep information secret; this Slate article is a good summary. Such provisions are secrecy laws; the laws are public, but permit nondisclosure rules. I am assuing that "secret laws" are different; they are laws that themselves are secret. Thus, the possibility explored in this post is that the secrecy laws in the U.S. Code may be blocking disclosure of the fact that there is no secret law, contrary to Gilmore's claim in his complaint. Does this seem rather odd? Yup, it sure does to me. But I'm just trying to figure out what is happening, not to defend the TSA.
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What you're proposing is that there is no law at all, but the DOJ is procedurally estopped from saying so? That's an exceedingly unpersuasive argument.
Please Professor Kerr, stop grasping at straws on this one and admit that the whole thing is an Orwellian mess.
Yours truly,
Mr. X
...gobsmacked...
Orin, get out of lawyer mode for a second. Why the hell is DOJ not just saying that there is a reg or whatever providing that people have to show ID's? Seems like an entirely reasonable regulation, and it would only bother the craziest of crazy civil libertarians that the government requires ID before you go on an airplane. This Bush Administration DOJ is so f*cking obsessed with secrecy and their "right" to not justify anything in court that they refuse to disclose their authority for somehting as mundane as this. This is crazy. And if you think any other administration would act this way, you are kidding yourself. This is extremely troubling that our government thinks it has a right not to tell its citizens why it is doing something. Orin, keep making excuses for it all you want, but you are going to have to come to grips with it sooner or later: these people running our country are out of control.
Why do you think the government's argument is unpersuasive? (I realize that you need to read the briefs and listen to the oral argument first to answer this, but I think this is worthwhile if you haven't done so already.)
Greedy Clerk,
I'm just trying to figure out what is happening. To quote my initial post: "Maybe this is a misguided law, or an appropriate law being implemented in a misguided way. I don't know; as I said, this isn't my area of expertise."
Now, it could be that DOJ is using this as a test case. That is, instead of saying there isn't a secret law and thus ensuring the case's dismissal, they're saying: "Let's give it a roll. Maybe we *can* have secret laws." But that would require them to misrepresent their position to the court. They would have to tell the Ninth Circuit panel: "The law is secret, and therefore we can't show it to you." Of course, if no such law exists, then that litigation strategy would be unethical. So there has to be some secret law, or else DOJ lawyers would not have been able to ethically litigate this case.
Perhaps there is a national security-related basis for not making public the reasons behind a law or regulation, but surely we are all entitled to know the substance of what our government prohibits.
When a dismissal is granted "as a matter of law," the court is allowed to determine what the law actually is, not what the plaintiff says it is. (Thank god.)
So I don't see how the gov't could be forced to concede there's a secret law if there's not one.
(OTOH, I'm happy to see Prof. Kerr making attempts to find something reasonable here, as opposed to those who think that any such attempt makes him a tool of the Bush administration.)
This is a very fancy way of saying, "We make it up as we go along." In other words, it does not exist.
I listened to the oral argument and looked at Gilmore's briefs (can't find the gov'ts briefs). First, Gilmore's attorney sounded really bad at oral argument.
Second, the government attorney's long discussion about how there was an order, but there doesn't have to be a record of the order, but the existence of the order (of which there is no record) is enough to get the case removed. I also found the attempt to make it an as-applied challenge rather than a facial one similarly Kafkaesque.
In any event, something is seriously wrong when the TSA can safely post a notice in big letters that says everyone has to show ID, but can't post the appropriate section of the U.S. Code that authorizes that sign for fear of compromising airline security.
Even better is that fact that because this information is not classified, but SSI, there's no administrative procedure to challenge it.
The assertion by the government that they can add something to the standard in Davis without needing a court to examine the addition is nothing more than a statement. Also, claiming that this is not a restriction on the right to travel, but makes that right better because it makes us safer (something that there is no judicial notice of) is another example of the arrogant posture of the government here.
The question of whether the burden is reasonable or unreasonable cannot be effectively litigated without knowing what the burden actually is. That can't be known without seeing the law, regulation, order, or whatever the hell the TSA issues. The government's offer to show this to a court under seal only arises after suit is brought, but without knowing what one is challenging, it's hard to even get to that point.
Still, I don't find the government's argument persuasive, but I'd be interested to see their written brief.
Yours truly,
Mr. X
...peeved...
John was a millionaire well before the dot-com boom.
Orin - we know that a reg existed -- FAA Security Directive 96-05 and we know that other newer regulations exist about things like no-fly lists and the unfortunate practice of using Soundex indexing to match fliers names with no-fly names which causes excess false positives.
Even supporters of the system should advocate publication of the regs so we can know exactly what forms of ID must be presented and how we can appeal boarding denials. [I had a clerk turn down a one-year expired passport even though such are acceptable for employment verification nd they have not lost any of their value as ID documents.]
If government says that "there is a law" then it is incumbent on the government to show that law.
A government to say that "you must" because it is the law, when there is fact no law, is dishonest and tyrannycal. A government may not do anything that it is not explicitly empowered to do.
And to be told to do something because it is the law when there is no law is entrapment - a means to enduce a knowledgable person to resist, and in doing so, breaking some other law. Here resistance to an unlawfull order and a lie.
How come lying to a government official is a crime but there is no law against a government official lying?