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[Puzzleblogger Kevan Choset, March 28, 2006 at 1:30pm] Trackbacks
Places in Order (Take Two):

In what order have I arranged these places?

  • Germany, France, America, Berkeley, California.

NOTE: People have been having trouble with the comments. Hopefully now it works.

Paul Decker:
Periodic table of the elements: Germanium is 32, Francium is 87, Americium is 95, Berkellum is 97, Californium is 98.
3.28.2006 2:48pm
OneEyedMan (mail) (www):
I was going to say average height, but Paul's looks like a better guess.
3.28.2006 2:49pm
CDebateAdmin (www):
Arranged by increasing atomic number of the elements which are named after those them.
3.28.2006 2:49pm
CDebateAdmin (www):
Crud, Paul beat me to it, LOL!
3.28.2006 2:50pm
Dmitri M:
Preceding these in the list are "The Sun", Southeast Thessaly, Scandinavia, then France, all before Germany.

He, Mg, Sc, Ga.
3.28.2006 2:55pm
Paul Decker:
Ah, a chance to share a piece of useless pre-law school info....

Gallium was first found in the Pyrenees by a Frenchman, who named it without explanation in 1875. He wrote the following in 1877:

On August 27, 1875, between three and four at night, I perceived the first indications of the existence of a new element that I named gallium in honor of France (Gallia).

Why did he explain the reason for the name two years later? Because people believed that he'd named it after himself! In Latin, "gallus" means rooster, and the discoverer's name was Paul Emile Lecoq de Boisbaudran (he didn't use either of his first two names, so he went by Lecoq). In French, "le coq" is "the rooster." Of course, in those pre-Donald Trump days, it was considered very bad form to name an element after yourself, and Boisbaudran always denied this derivation, but the story has persisted to the current day -- and I'm always happy to spread unsubstatiated rumors to others.

P.S. Please forgive my spelling error in Berkellium in the first post.
3.28.2006 3:30pm
Tom952 (mail):
East to West.
3.28.2006 3:54pm
Brian G (mail) (www):
It's a bell curve. The two on the right are crap, the center is the cream, and the 2 on the left are more crap.
3.28.2006 4:07pm
TTT Student:
Props to BRIAN G.
My thoughts exactly
3.28.2006 4:17pm
Malvolio:
Everybody is forgetting Polonium (84)
3.28.2006 4:24pm
Adam (mail):
The good people of Ytterby, Sweden, demand to know why they weren't included.
3.28.2006 4:34pm
markm (mail):
Tom952: I was thinking "center of mass, east to west", until the last item, but Berkeley is west of most of CA. "Easternmost point, east to west" does work, I think. However, the periodic table is a much better answer.
3.28.2006 5:24pm
JeffL:
Hey, my kitchen is in three of these places!
3.28.2006 5:30pm
BrianK (mail):
Paul decker's answer is better, but "center of mass, North to South" also works, at least as I eyeball it on my map.
3.28.2006 6:04pm
Postchaise:
North to south, by the line of latitude through the middle of the place.
3.28.2006 6:05pm
Syd (mail):
There are also Yttrium, Terbium, Erbium and Ytterbium, all named after the village of Ytterby, Ruthenium after Ruthenia, Dubnium after the city of Dubna where it was discovered, Holmium after Stockholm, Thulium after Ultima Thule and Lutetium after an old name for Paris.
3.28.2006 6:09pm
Syd (mail):
Oh, and Europium.
3.28.2006 6:09pm
Anon Y. Mous:
Someone needs to get that military guy from Monty Python in here to tell you people to quit goofing off.
3.28.2006 6:38pm
Anon Anonymous (mail):
Odd, but interesting.
3.28.2006 10:23pm
Dave Hardy (mail) (www):
That's easy. America is in the center. On the left are Germany and France, two places that we bombed the snot out of in the past, in order to preserve freedom and our way of life. On the right are California and Berkeley, two places that in the near future we'll have to accord the same treatment for the same reason.
3.28.2006 10:56pm
stealthlawprof (mail) (www):
Gee, I thought they were arranged alphabetically by the name of their top government official or body: Germany=Chancellor; France=Premier; U.S.=President; Berkeley=Supreme Soviet; California=Terminator.
3.29.2006 12:20am
Brian G (mail) (www):
Dave and Stealthlawprof,

Brilliant. Just brilliant.
3.29.2006 12:32am
dbadba:
let me guess JeffL... Germany, Berkeley, and France?
3.29.2006 12:33am
Splunge (mail):
Of course, in those pre-Donald Trump days, it was considered very bad form to name an element after yourself.

You could, of course, name it after your friends. Hence de Marignac named gadolinium after Finnish chemist Johan Gadolin, and Heinrich Rose named the mineral samarskite for Colonel Vasilii Yevgravovich Samarksi, Chief of Staff of the Russian Corps of Mining Engineers, who provided the first samples of the mineral, which led Boisbaudran himself to later become the first to give the name of a person to a chemical element when he discovered therein samarium.
3.29.2006 2:59am
John Tillinghast (mail):

In Latin, "gallus" means rooster, and the discoverer's name was Paul Emile Lecoq de Boisbaudran (he didn't use either of his first two names, so he went by Lecoq). In French, "le coq" is "the rooster."


Likewise, chromatography was invented by Mikhail Tsvet in the early 1900s. "chroma-" is a Greek root for color, and "tsvet" is the everyday Russian word for...color. The official reason for the name was its original use on plant pigments.
3.29.2006 9:50am
Lockrob (mail):
As long as we're going down the eponymous path, don't forget the therblig, which is the unit for determining workplace efficiency. 'Therblig' is 'Gilbreth' reversed (almost). Frank and Lillian Gilbreth, developers of time and motion study, named it after themselves, sort of.
3.29.2006 11:41am
Greenback:
Well, G, F, A, B, C does produce a familiar tune.

But I think a more creative answer would be grades recieved by people in a class, from most intelligent to least (Grader, F, A, B, C).

Of course, if you switch America and France, the list goes from least pretentious to most.
3.29.2006 6:33pm