When I was in law school, I took great comfort from a line from an Earl Warren biography that someone showed me: "Earl Warren was, by all accounts, a mediocre student." I figure if I do half as well as Earl, I'm doing OK with my life.

At Lewis &Clark Law School the average grade is a B-. My understanding is that the Professor has to get special permission to give the class an average grade greater than 2.9, and that such permission is rarely requested or given. The school also will give out class ranking information, with specific ranks for the top quarter, and a range for the rest. And, if I'm not mistaken, one can graduate with a GPA of 2.0 or above.

Times have certainly changed at Harvard since Justice Blackmun was a student.

I can say, from having interviewed dozens upon dozens of law school students when I was an associate for several years at a very large--more than 1000 lawyers---corporate law firm, the big firm perception was that grade inflation generally followed the prestige of the school (US News &WR rankings), with the higher ranking schools have more grade inflation.

The disparate grading systems at law schools meant, for the "summer associate" program, that we didn't hire someone primarily based on his or her grades, but we did use (1) poor grades, at top schools and second tier schools, to reject people out of hand (no interviews offered); (2) truly exceptional grades from less prestigious schools to offer interviews to students who otherwise might not get in the door; and (3) high class rankings or designations (magna cum laude, etc.) of students at top law schools to decide whom we really wanted to pursue as a candidate. However, if an applicant blew the interview, or showed poor judgment while he or she was a summer associate, the candidate was doomed, regardless of the candidate's grades and the prestige of the candidate's law school.

Custer may have had an end of career which reflected his mediocre grades, but it isn't always the case. Also at the very bottom of the class--the "anchorman" is the U.S. Naval Academy term--was Admiral of the Fleet "Bull" Halsey, who contributed greatly to the demise of the Japanese Navy during WWII.

Further, outside the hallowed halls of 1000+ or even 100+ law firms, professorships and clerkships, grades are not always a good predictor of success. I had a classmate who was probably exaggerating when he claimed to be in the top half of the bottom quarter of the class--but he had a remarkable career as a public defender. His talent wasn't in exam taking, but in establishing rapport with juries. He got a lot of clients off.

As a 62 in a class of 67 graduate, I've always liked Custer. He actually did pretty well in the war of Northern Aggression where he got promoted to General.

uh.. I mean "Blackmun." I Better lay off that bottle--which perhaps explains my grades in law school

The funny thing is that I doubt anyone could get on the Supreme Court these days that was "just shy of the top 25%" while in law school. And that is, of course, assuming that the judge went to a first tier law school, because magna cum laude at a second tier school probably isn't going to get you anywhere near SCOTUS either.

I'm still not sure why we should be particularly impressed by comments that are signed "Says the 'Dog,'" but at least I'm glad that the signature isn't in bold any more. In any case, my sense is that many decades ago many classes were year-long rather than just semester-long.

This transcript demonstrates the real reason one hears grey-beard partners (and other mid-life or older commencement speakers) say that they aren't equally or better qualified than the latest crop of 1st years.

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RE an ealier post about GGU curving: wow, I am shocked at how *easy* some of the top schools apparently grade. Yes, we may be considered 4th tier, but in my opinion we have many excellent professors. I don't know what my school's average or median GPA is, but our curving works like this:

1st year courses:

Maximum Minimum
A- and above………………20%....................5%
B- and above………………60%....................45%
C- and below………………20%....................13%
D and below………………..5%.....................0%

Other required courses:

Maximum Minimum
A- and above……………….30%...................5%
B- and above……………….75%...................45%
C- and below……………….20%...................10%

Curve for Elective Courses with 20 Students or More
Maximum Minimum
A- and above………………..60%......………15%
B- and above………………100%…………...45%
C- and below…………….....10%.......……0%

Curve for Elective Courses with Fewer Than 20 Students:
In elective courses in which there are fewer than 20 students, there shall be no mandatory curve, except that no more than 20% of the students may receive a grade of C- or below.

As you can see, for 1st year grades a minimum of 40% gets C or below (not listed that way, but if a max of 60% can get B- or above, that leaves 40% with C or below). A lot higher % than what was posted for other schools (like 5% Cs).

We don't have + grades--no A+, B+, C+, etc.

Huh. My GPA is slightly above 3.7, and I am ranked in the top 5 (of about 300). Pretty good, I thought, but if I am competing against people not only from higher ranked schools, but with artificially inflated grades, well that just stinks.