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Who Thinks Bush is a lot like Hitler?

The organization World Can't Wait has run an advertisement urging a rally on October 5 to "mass resistance" to begin to "Drive out the Bush regime." After listing various Bush sins, the advertisement declares "People look at all this and think of Hitler – and they are right to do so. The Bush regime is setting out to radically remake society very quickly, in a fascist way, and for generations to come."

The advertisement lists the following endorsers:

James Abourezk, Aris Anagnos, Anti-Flag, Edward Asner, Russell Banks, Ed Begley Jr., Harry Belafonte, St. Clair Bourne, Gabriel Byrne, Margaret Cho, Ward Churchill, Kate Clinton, US Rep. John Conyers Jr., John Densmore, Jesse Díaz Jr., Ariel Dorfman, Tom Duane, Michael Eric Dyson, Steve Earle, Niles Eldredge, Daniel Ellsberg, Eve Ensler, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Jane Fonda, Michael Franti, reg e. gaines, Martin Garbus, Wavy Gravy, André Gregory, Paul Haggis, Sam Hamill, Suheir Hammad, Kathleen Hanna, Stephen Hays, Merle Hoffman, Rev. Jesse L. Jackson, Mumia Abu-Jamal, Bill T. Jones, Rickie Lee Jones, Sarah Jones, Brig. Gen. (ret) Janis Karpinski, Casey Kasem, Ron Kovic, Jonathan Kozol, Jessica Lange, Lewis Lapham, Mark Leno, Rabbi Michael Lerner, George Lois, US Rep. Cynthia McKinney, Mark Crispin Miller, Tom Morello, US Rep. Major Owens, Ozomatli, Grace Paley, Harvey Pekar, Sean Penn, Jeremy Pikser, Harold Pinter, Frances Fox Piven, Sister Helen Prejean, Michael Ratner, Boots Riley, Mark Ruffalo, US Rep. Bobby Rush, Susan Sarandon, James Schamus, Richard Serra, Rev. Al Sharpton, Cindy Sheehan, Martin Sheen, Gary Soto, Nancy Spero, Gloria Steinem, Lynne Stewart, Serj Tankian, Jonathan Tasini, Sunsara Taylor, Studs Terkel, Gore Vidal, Kurt Vonnegut, Alice Walker, Naomi Wallace, Lt. Ehren Watada, US Rep. Maxine Waters, Cornel West, Saul Williams, Krzysztof Wodiczko, Ann Wright, Howard Zinn.
All I can say is that I'm disappointed with Wavy Gravy, but not surprised about most of the rest.

stealthlawprof (mail) (www):
I trust the exclusion of Osama bin Laden from their list of endorsers was an accidental oversight.
8.4.2006 11:15pm
AppSocRes (mail):
Anybody Mumia Abu-Jamal doesn't like has to be on the side of the angels!
8.4.2006 11:20pm
johnt (mail):
So where are the gas ovens? The ad and it's signers are a grand endorsement for psychopharmacology.
Can't figure out why Rep. Maxine Waters would want to hug Adolf Hitler but yet every State of the Union she has a aisle seat and does just that, it must be the uniform.
8.4.2006 11:29pm
Glenn W Bowen (mail):
anything ol' Ward Churchill gets behind is aces in my book- like an in-reverse garbage truck.
8.4.2006 11:30pm
Erasmussimo:
I think that the old rule about "first man to use 'Nazi' or 'Hitler' loses" is appropriate here. I'm not averse to using those comparisons where they are apt; but referring to Mr. Bush in those terms is so far off the mark as to be an abuse of the terminology. I agree that Mr. Bush is likely the worst President in US history; I agree that he has broken the law on many occasions and is more deserving of impeachment than any President in US history; but I decry the comparison to Hitler as pejorative to the discussion.


[DK: I don't agree with all your criticisms for Bush; for instance, I think his father is a much stronger contender to get into the finals of the "worst President ever" contest. But your broader point is well put.]
8.4.2006 11:37pm
Duncan Frissell (mail):
So since Bush is Hitler and they've provided a handy list of names we can expect the disappearances tomorrow. I don't think W will use ovens though. He's too much of a nature lover. Bad for global warming. Expect conversion to compost instead. Can help keep the National Parks green.
8.5.2006 12:07am
Pete Freans (mail):
Richard Serra's name disappointed me because I am a big fan of his sculptures. If I were asked to create a list people I would least want to spend an evening dining with, it would unquestionably be the above cast of characters.
8.5.2006 12:19am
garyst:
Wow,

Not that I'm surprised by this, but it's not exactly like you are out there condemning the rhetoric on the other side. Fair and balanced, just like FoxNews. Congrats for being the mouthpiece of the right. Don't see you condemning the ads referring to people as baby killers for supporting stem cell research or calling to task those who assert that politicians who support labor organizations are on the graft. I understand your point, but you'd have much more credibility if you were espousing your condemnation on both sides of the spectrum.
8.5.2006 12:21am
Harry Eagar (mail):
What, no Dixie Chicks?
8.5.2006 12:22am
RMCACE (mail):
I honestly think these people are intentionally helping the President's cause. They are generally smart people. They have to know that this type of attack will only serve to help the President raise his popularity. This is the same as if David Duke endorsed the President.
8.5.2006 12:27am
JohnAnnArbor:

Lt. Ehren Watada

I thought officers stayed out of politics. Did the lieutenant just violate the UCMJ with that signature?
8.5.2006 12:30am
NickM (mail) (www):
What names would you have expected to see on the list that aren't there?

For me, the most surprising absences are U.S. Rep. Barbara Lee and her former boss, Oakland mayor-elect Ron Dellums.

Perhaps the process of getting Mumia's signature in prison took so long they didn't have time to get all the usual suspects.

Nick
8.5.2006 12:31am
JohnAnnArbor:
So, the cop-killer on the list is supposed to make me support their position, somehow?
8.5.2006 12:33am
JohnAnnArbor:
Karpinski's screw-ups, at least in part, led to Abu Ghraib.

Where's Danny Glover? Maybe he's too busy at Castro's bedside to sign anything.
8.5.2006 12:36am
John Marshall Robinson (mail):
What an embarassing organization.
8.5.2006 12:39am
Rhymes With Right (mail) (www):
Interestingly enough, there is not a single person on that list who appears to have a lick of expertise worth listening to. I see some has-been musicians and actors, a few second-rate writers and actors, a couple of disgraced academics, radical leftist politicians, a deserter, and a convicted traitoress.
8.5.2006 12:48am
Erasmussimo:
Rhymes With Right, I agree that only a few of the people on this list have expertise in politics or law. The bulk of the people on this list are welcome to their opinions, but their opinions should really be of no concern to any rational person. However, I will chide you for dismissing them as 'has-been musicians and actors', etc. Your disagreement with their political beliefs does not justify your denigrating their professional talents.
8.5.2006 12:53am
Nobody Special:
Brigadier General Janis Karpinski???

The one who ran Abu Ghraib during the scandal???

What in the hell is she doing on there? I'm assuming it is some sort of "Bush made me do it, I'm really not an abusive jailer!" kind of thing.
8.5.2006 12:55am
Nobody Special:

Lt. Ehren Watada


I thought officers stayed out of politics. Did the lieutenant just violate the UCMJ with that signature?


Well, seeing as Lt. Watada is a deserter, what's one more UCMJ violation?
8.5.2006 12:59am
Barbara Skolaut (mail):
Erasmussimo: "I agree that Mr. Bush is likely the worst President in US history"

Not old enough to have lived through the Carter administration, are you?
8.5.2006 1:23am
Enoch:
I will chide you for dismissing them as 'has-been musicians and actors', etc. Your disagreement with their political beliefs does not justify your denigrating their professional talents.

Yes, the dreadful crap they've created, sung, and/or appeared in speaks for itself.
8.5.2006 1:30am
Erasmussimo:
Barbara Skolaut asks, Not old enough to have lived through the Carter administration, are you?

I'm old enough to remember the Kennedy/Nixon debate. While you may have objections to the policies Mr. Carter pursued, I think you'll be hard put to come up with plausible accusations of Mr. Carter violating the law, as can be done with Mr. Bush.
8.5.2006 1:55am
Nobody Special:

I think you'll be hard put to come up with plausible accusations of Mr. Carter violating the law, as can be done with Mr. Bush.


Unilateral abrogation of a defensive treaty with Taiwan, without senatorial consultation or approval.

Next?
8.5.2006 3:12am
steve k:
And unlike Mel Gibson, these people weren't drunk.
8.5.2006 3:42am
Jim Hu:
GWB is the worst President of the 21st Century!

It always appalls me that people are not satisfied with just labeling someone as a bad President...they have to claim that they're the worst in history. This strikes me as mostly demonstrating a lack of knowledge of US History. I'm not an expert or even a maven, but even I know that we've had Presidents who supported the spread of slavery into other countries (Pierce, my nominee for worst ever), supported the spread of slavery into the West (Pierce again), declared support for the Confederacy after leaving office (Pierce yet again), resegregated the Federal govt. (Wilson), led us into real wars of imperial expansion (McKinley), and pushed through real sedition laws (Adams and Wilson).

And none of those was in the same league as Hitler, AFAIC.
8.5.2006 5:07am
Steve:
Unilateral abrogation of a defensive treaty with Taiwan, without senatorial consultation or approval.

Next?


Wow, you really nailed that one.
8.5.2006 5:30am
BGates (mail) (www):
Wouldn't you think that someone on this list would horrify someone else on this list? They're all nuts, but in such different ways.

The ad is great. You can mail in the coupon at the bottom with your donation of $200-$5000. Among the evils they will stop are:
War!
Theocracy!
Katrina!

So to sum up: Give Ed Asner 5 grand, and he will be able to control the weather (without the crutch of divine intervention.)

I also noticed that their plan is to create the political conditions that will force Bush out of office early. It would be gauche to suggest any of these fine people would end up in prison after this little stunt (besides the guy who's already on death row and the one due for court martial), but remind me again what hurdles we're going to make them jump before their dreams are realized and they get to be locked up for their brave dissent?
8.5.2006 6:30am
johnt (mail):
Jim Hu , you are not supposed to show you know what you are talking about,least of all bring up facts. Unfair, and it interferes with the "worst president" gibe from people who don't think they're being taxed enough &think the war can be settled by arbitration. You can deny a man many things, you can't deny him his venom.
8.5.2006 7:39am
johnt (mail):
Erasmussimo, You're wrong, Dick Morris was the worst President in history.
8.5.2006 7:44am
Frank Drackmann (mail):
The retired general could be prosecuted also, retirees still come under the UCMJ, it would be the same charge they use when some E-1 calls his NCO a dickhead. Its probably what she wants though.
8.5.2006 8:17am
Dr. Weevil (mail) (www):
As I recall, Janis Karpinski was demoted to colonel for failing to prevent the abuses at Abu Ghraib when she was in command of all military prisons in Iraq. If so, she can call herself a "former general", but "Brig. Gen. (ret)" looks an awful lot like a lie. Perhaps someone with more expertise on military ranks can help me out here. Can someone who retired as a colonel after being demoted from general call herself a retired general?
8.5.2006 8:30am
BT:
Missing in action is Barbara Streisand. "People, people who need Hitler..."
8.5.2006 8:53am
jvarisco (www):
What exactly are they going to do? Whine a lot and claim victory in '08?
8.5.2006 9:10am
Peter Wimsey:
Perhaps someone with more expertise on military ranks can help me out here. Can someone who retired as a colonel after being demoted from general call herself a retired general?


IIRC, your retired rank is usually one rank higher than the rank you held when you retired. So John Smith, Major (ret'd) means that John Smith retired as a Captain. I don't know all the details of this rule, but it seems like Karpinsky would be able to call herself Brig. Gen. (ret) not because she once held that rank, but because she retired as a Col.
8.5.2006 10:41am
Bpbatista (mail):
Quite a collection of murders, terrorists, anti-Semites, anti-Americans, communists and Hollywood has-beens.
8.5.2006 11:30am
JRL:
A chill wind must have kept Tim Robbins off the list, but it couldn't keep Susan Sarandon off!
8.5.2006 11:37am
dk35 (mail):
I'm sure I lost more family members due to Hitler than many of you, and I have no problem with this comparison. Your faux sense of disgust is itself disgusting.
8.5.2006 12:15pm
Leland (mail):
I'm sure I lost more family members due to Hitler than many of you, and I have no problem with this comparison.

That is a rather silly assertion in an attempt to gain moral authority. Besides, I didn't read too many people really disgusted by the comparison, rather they think it is dumb and that the comparison says more about the signatories than Bush. Really, I read more humor than disgust.
8.5.2006 12:33pm
Dr. Weevil (mail) (www):
Peter Wimsey:

I've heard of 'brevet colonels' and such in the post-Civil War period, where someone would wear the rank of colonel but still be paid as a major or lieutenant colonel. I think I've also read of posthumous promotions for those who died heroically. But I don't think the U.S. military currently promotes people on retirement. It's only a single data point, but my father retired from the Navy in 1974 as a commander and I have never in 32 years heard any hint that he might be able to claim the title of captain in any context. Unlike Karpinski, he wasn't disgraced or reduced in rank before he retired, so I would think it even less likely in her case. It looks as if she 'refuses to accept' her demotion and claims a rank she is no longer entitled to.

dk35:

The implication that there is something false or pretentious-plus-false (if that's what 'faux' is supposed to mean here) about our disgust for Bush-Nazi comparisons is itself disgusting.

Linguistic pedants:

Shouldn't Wavy Gravy's name go later in the list, alphabetized under W instead of G? The New York Times once famously referred to 'Ice T' as 'Mr. T', but surely no one would call Wavy Gravy 'Mr. Gravy'.
8.5.2006 12:40pm
johnt (mail):
The presence of Generalisimmo Karpinski on the list does provide a little dark humor. Perhaps a reversal of the Nuremburg Trials, prosecute the privates, let the generals collect their pensions. Or maybe a suggested defense along the lines of men and women not being equal after all.
The chain of command must have gotten mixed up. Bush and Rumsfeld are responsible for torture but not the general in charge of the prison. She, putting in her claim for the Chutzpah Gold Medal,gets to sign petitions.
To the non-dismay of her fellow humanists. And after almost six years when exactly does this nazi state kick in? Bush has a little more then two years to go, he better start hustling. Maybe he's saving the best for last!
8.5.2006 12:52pm
JohnO (mail):
Karpinski calling herself a Brigadier General is a lie. He was reduced to colonel for her incompetence. There is a UCMJ article that prohibits commissioned officers from treating certain government officials (like, say, the President, with contempt. See article 88 below. Most famously some idiot lieutenant was convicted during the Vietnam era for carrying a sign that basically implied that LBJ was a facist (that'as how the poor slug spelled fascist):

Article 88, UCMJ

“Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”
8.5.2006 12:57pm
Justin (mail):
Kasey Casem? So cool. I remember him.

The list is otherwise not newsworthy, except in the sense that it shows what the right has been left with in terms of political rhetoric when their own positions have beccome so indefensible.

Good thing to know that "political correctness" and the "You Can't Say That" crowd isn't limited to liberals, though.
8.5.2006 1:37pm
JohnAnnArbor:
Uh, Steve, the ABM treaty has a clause in it allowing either party to leave it after 6 months' notice. We followed it to the letter. There was no violation of treaty at all, no matter how much the left claims their was.
8.5.2006 1:41pm
Tom Tildrum:
"Anti-Flag"? Is that someone's name?
8.5.2006 1:42pm
Justin (mail):
BTW, I think we can all agree that Bush isn't Hitler. That should, of course, be the Republican 2006 slogan. The Republican Party - We're Not as Bad as Nazis!
8.5.2006 1:42pm
JohnAnnArbor:

Good thing to know that "political correctness" and the "You Can't Say That" crowd isn't limited to liberals, though.


Huh? They can say whatever they want, and we can criticize them for it. Duh.
8.5.2006 1:43pm
Sean O'Hara (mail):

What exactly are they going to do? Whine a lot and claim victory in '08?


George Bush didn't declare a state of emergency, abrogate the Constitution, and make himself President for Life! We win! Yay!
8.5.2006 2:16pm
Irene B. (mail):
Very interesting that these people are able to call the President whatever they'd like in the name of free speech. If they had lived in 1938 Germany, I don't think they would have lived long enough to print the ad.
8.5.2006 2:23pm
TomFromMD (mail):
I'm guessing Anti-Flag are these guys: http://www.anti-flag.com
8.5.2006 3:50pm
Harry Eagar (mail):
There is no military rule that elevates an officer one rank on retirement.

However, it's not unusual for an officer who is being retired to be promoted one rank on the day of his retirement, to goose his pension.

Just a little game officers play among themselves at our expense.
8.5.2006 4:18pm
BGates (mail) (www):
dk35: more to the point, I'm sure I've had exactly as many family members killed by Bush as you have, and the comparison and your disgust are both laughable.
8.5.2006 5:54pm
Bruce Lagasse (mail):
I notice that Susan Sarandon appears twice, once under her own name, and once as her alter ego (Sister Jean Prejean).
8.5.2006 7:14pm
monboddo (mail):
That's about the oddest assortment I've ever seen. Harvey Pekar? I liked American Splendor and all, but really...
8.5.2006 10:20pm
ReaderY:
I myself think the Iraqi war, among other issues, was a terrible move both in concept and execution, and I disagree with the Bush position on a number of policy and legal issues (but by no means all). But I believe equating an administration one dislikes and disagrees with to Hitler is outrageous -- As George Orwell noted regarding very similar phenomena, the overuse of hyperbole drains language of meaning and destroys our ability to communicate. Crying wolf inhibits our ability to recognize real wolves, and crying Demon even more so.
8.6.2006 12:16am
jgshapiro (mail):

Article 88, UCMJ

“Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

The Secretary of Transportation?

What about the Secretary of Health and Human Services?
8.6.2006 1:43am
stealthlawprof (mail) (www):
Just a guess, but the Secretary of Transportation is probably there because the Coast Guard is under the Department of Transportation -- or at least used to be. One would think that the CG would have been swept up in the Homeland Security behemoth, but I don't know.
8.6.2006 2:50am
Aebie:
The military doesn't give itself promotions, at least not at the higher ranks. After a given time at a particular rank, the service member is promotion-eligible. Their record is reviewed and they are given a ranking, such as P (promote) or DP (definitely promote). I think if you don't get one of those, then you know your career is over; that is, there isn't, to my knowledge, a DDP (for definitely don't promote).

Ultimately, Congress has to sign off on all the officer promotions at a certain rank. In addition, a service member has to serve a given number of years at the rank--3?--to be eligible to receive retired pay at that rank.

Someone who is in the midst of a scandal might be allowed to go somewhere and quietly finish out their three years (if there are just a few months left), but you're not going to see anyone being promoted on their retirement date so they can retire with a higher pension.
8.6.2006 10:00am
dk35 (mail):
Those who disagree with me can be as smug and arrogant as they want, but it doesn't change the facts that this president, for example, lied to instigate a war of aggression (while using race baiting and talks of a "crusade" to help it along), sanctions the use of torture, illegally orders spying on American citizens, and encourages lawmaking creating a group of second-class citizens in the US.

If all the teaching of "never again" which I, as a Jew who lost family due to the Nazi regime, is to be believed, I see no reason why the comparisons shouldn't be pointed out. What is sad in my opinion is that the Bush cult seems so out of touch with reality that you would rather defend this President rather than engage the issues.
8.6.2006 11:10am
Dr. Weevil (mail) (www):
Bruce Lagasse:

Sister Helen (not Jean) Prejean is a real person, played by Susan Sarandon in a movie. It's a bit disorienting to see both in the same list, but there's no duplication.

jgshapiro:

Yes, it looks like disgruntled servicemen and -women can criticize politicians all they want, as long as they make sure to stick to lieutenant governors, mayors, members of the president's cabinet not specifically listed, individual congressmen but not all of them together, and so on.

Everyone:

No definite answer yet, but it certainly looks as if Col. Karpinski is claiming a rank to which she is not entitled. Perhaps I should ask the question on a milblogger site to get a definite answer.

dk35:

It's hard not to look smug and arrogant when arguing with someone who offers as "facts" statements that are either false, highly arguable, so vague as to be irrefutable (that's not a compliment), or utterly irrelevant to the asinine Bush-Hitler comparison. To take one small example: if Hitler had confined himself to 'illegally spying' on German citizens, he wouldn't even have made the Top 50 of 20th-century tyrants, would he? And what is this group of "second-class citizens" to which you refer? I suspect you're not talking about Hawaiians with no native Hawaiian blood, who will indeed be second-class citizens if the Akaka bill passes. Are you talking about gays who want to marry? If so, how is Bush "creating" their second-class citizenship? It's not as if gays were ever able to marry (each other, I mean) before Bush was inaugurated.
8.6.2006 1:49pm
Brian G (mail) (www):
If Bush was what this group of dopes accuse him of being, they would love him, just like they love Castro, Chavez, Mao, Stalin, etc.
8.6.2006 3:48pm
nick:

Nobody Special:

I think you'll be hard put to come up with plausible accusations of Mr. Carter violating the law, as can be done with Mr. Bush.

Unilateral abrogation of a defensive treaty with Taiwan, without senatorial consultation or approval.

Next?


Dude, supremacy clause. Like... duh. Its generally accepted that the president has the power to terminate treaties. This is why the case against Carter at the supreme court was not reviewed. Although the constitution is vague on who has the legal right to terminate treaties, precident stands that the proposal and termination of treaties is a presidential power under the supremacy clause.

Next?
8.6.2006 6:15pm
Kristin (mail):
Tom Tildrum:
Anti-Flag is a punk band from Pittsburgh known for their strong anti-nationalism stance and their belief that, among other things, patriotism is just a tool wielded by politicians to gain public support for otherwise unpopular causes...hence, their views on Bush and the war in Iraq. Their last two albums have been directed at criticizing the Bush administration in general and its handling of the "war on terror" in particular. And an interesting side note: in 2004, Rep. Jim McDermott gave a speech praising Anti-Flag for its efforts in encouraging young people to vote.
8.6.2006 8:43pm
Bruce Lagasse (mail):
Dr. Weevil: "Sister Helen (not Jean) Prejean is a real person, played by Susan Sarandon in a movie. It's a bit disorienting to see both in the same list, but there's no duplication."

Yes, I knew that. (Sorry about the Helen/Jean confusion.) I was trying to be facetious. Similarly if the letter were signed by both Julia Roberts and Erin Brockovich. (Which I suppose is not out of the question.)
8.6.2006 9:31pm
poster child (mail):

The military doesn't give itself promotions, at least not at the higher ranks. After a given time at a particular rank, the service member is promotion-eligible. Their record is reviewed and they are given a ranking, such as P (promote) or DP (definitely promote). I think if you don't get one of those, then you know your career is over; that is, there isn't, to my knowledge, a DDP (for definitely don't promote).

Ultimately, Congress has to sign off on all the officer promotions at a certain rank. In addition, a service member has to serve a given number of years at the rank--3?--to be eligible to receive retired pay at that rank.

Someone who is in the midst of a scandal might be allowed to go somewhere and quietly finish out their three years (if there are just a few months left), but you're not going to see anyone being promoted on their retirement date so they can retire with a higher pension.


This is my understanding as well. FWIW, once you get high enough (usually around the O-6 level), almost everyone gets a DP, and the promotion decision actually comes down to whether you have enough friends at the Pentagon.

I have never heard of an officer being promoted the day before retirement.
8.7.2006 11:49am
DarkSaturos (mail) (www):
Wow that's nuts. Bush like Hitler? That's totally invalid. Does anyone know they're history? Bush freed people. Hitler killed them. Bush supports Jews, Hitler hated them. How can people possibly support a statement saying Bush is like Hitler. Just another example of crazy leftist wierdos.
8.7.2006 11:53am
The River Temoc (mail):
Unilateral abrogation of a defensive treaty with Taiwan, without senatorial consultation or approval.

Presidents do not need the Senate's consent to withdraw from treaties.
8.7.2006 1:31pm
JohnO (mail):
"I have never heard of an officer being promoted the day before retirement."

Poster Child:

It does happen. For example, the Marine colonel filling the slot as head of criminal law matters for the Navy/Marine Corps (I can't remmeber if the title is Deputy JAG or what, but he is called the "O-2") traditionally gets promoted to Brigadier General on the day of his retirement. I don't think this affects retirement pay much, if at all. Its main significance is that it lets the guy be called "General" for the rest of his life.
8.7.2006 2:47pm
Dave in NYC:
Col. Karpinski may not use the title of brigadier general. Contra Dr. Weevil, though, she was not demoted. After the Army IG's report found her culpable of dereliction of duty and guilty of concealing a prior shoplifting conviction, her promotion to brigadier general was vacated pursuant to 10 U.S. Code § 625.
8.7.2006 3:53pm