The Volokh Conspiracy

Non-Jewish American Politicians of Jewish Descent:

Madeleine Albright, John Kerry, Barry Goldwater, Wesley Clark, Casper Weinberger, William Cohen, and, apparently, George Allen. All prominent non-Jewish politicians with recent Jewish heritage. This makes me wonder about how many Americans there are who have at least one Jewish grandparent, but who aren't Jewish, and about how many of these Jewish parents or grandparents hid their origins from their families, as did Albright's parents, John Kerry's grandparents, and perhaps Allen's mom. It seems like hiding this information was not uncommon in prior generations; one of my grandfather's first cousins had a falling out with his family, changed his name, moved to the Midwest, married a Christian, and never told his children or grandchildren about his origins, though they knew that "something was funny" about their family history (we found this out when a cousin was tracking people down for a family reunion.) I don't begrudge anyone who leaves the Jewish fold for whatever reason, but there is something downright creepy (because it suggests either shame or fear) about going out of one's way to avoid telling your kids that your family was Jewish.

LotharoftheHillPeople:
Maybe Allen called that guy "meshuggah" instead of "macaca."
8.28.2006 9:30pm
Friedrich Foresight (mail):
> "there is something downright creepy (because it suggests either shame or fear) about going out of one's way to avoid telling your kids that your family was Jewish."

I'd challenge that. In a few cases, it is Jews themselves who are the first to say that someone is no longer Jewish. If they convert to Christianity, for example, and call themselves "Messianic Jews", that seems to be regarded as especially offensive. Moreover, it means the claimant is regarded as not covered by the Law of Return.

I was raised Catholic. I converted to Protestantism in my mid-twenties. Generally speaking, if I argue theology with Catholics, I don't go out of my way to say "I was raised Catholic..." because this attracts particular vituperation. It indicates disloyalty and betrayal, not merely theological disagreement. I realise it's not a precise analogy, since Catholicism is less of an ethnic identity than Judaism is (although it is much more of an ethnic identity than Protestantism is), but it suggests why Jews would prefer that former co-religionists who think Jesus is the Messiah would stop labelling themselves "Jewish".
8.28.2006 9:33pm
DavidBernstein (mail):
FF, I didn't say they should say they were "Jewish," I said that it's creepy to go out one's way to avoid acknowledging that one's family was Jewish. I did think it was weird when people kept asking poor Albright what she thought now that she knew her family was Jewish. Other than it being an interesting curiosity that might fill in some puzzles about family history, I didn't understand why it should affect her at all.
8.28.2006 9:36pm
okozark (mail):
The whole idea of shame regarding having Jewish ancestors is pitiful enough. But, it is even worse that Mrs. Albright tap danced around the question of her mother and father's origins by making the incredulous claim that she had no idea that her parents could possibly ever have been Jewish. David, I think you are too trusting when you assume that she was completely in the dark about her background. At least the others do not go out of their way to deny it.
8.28.2006 9:38pm
Steve Lubet (mail):
for people who narrowly escaped the nazis in europe or north africa, it isn't creepy to avoid discussing their jewishness -- it's just sad.
8.28.2006 9:42pm
Fern R (www):
This makes me wonder about how many Americans there are who have at least one Jewish grandparent, but who aren't Jewish

The number is probably pretty high. The intermarriage rate among Jews is currently around 40%. Furthermore, less than 20% of the non-Jewish spouses in those intermarried couples converts to Judaism. There is probably no way to know how many of those intermarried Jews tell their children though.
8.28.2006 9:49pm
chrismn (mail):
I think it was Irving Kristol who said that it used to be that the greatest danger to the Jewish people was that Christians wanted to kill them, but now it was that Christians wanted to marry them.
8.28.2006 9:52pm
Friedrich Foresight (mail):
Thanks, David, I take your point. Perhaps another, non-creepy explanation is that, since "Jewish" can legitimately be both an ethnic identity and a religious affiliation, someone might think they can't claim the title unless they have both. "Are you Jewish?" "No, I'm Presbyterian." "Are you Jewish?" "No, my family's Russian/ Polish".

A third, non-creepy explanation is that for evangelical Christians of a certain persuasion, they don't believe they have the "right" to call themselves Jewish. A large chunk of Christian theology is built on the idea that the covenant was originally prepared for the blood descendants of Abraham, and only afterwards was God's offer extended to the Gentiles (see eg St Paul's Epistle to Romans, early chapters). Non-Jews have been "dealt with under emergency regulations", as CS Lewis once put it. Claiming to be Jewish is, in certain Christian circles, claiming to be on the A-list rather than the B-list of those invited the wedding feast (as per Jesus' parable) and might be viewed as "passing yourself off" if you hadn't been devoutly practising Judaism, or at least publicly identified as a secular Jew (like Lewis' wife, Joy Davidman) immediately before converting to Christianity.
8.28.2006 9:53pm
DavidBernstein (mail):
Thanks for the stats, Fern. I was think more about older Americans. Supposedly, the intermarriage rate earlier in the century was well under 10%, but, if people were hiding their Jewish background, that number could be low.
8.28.2006 9:53pm
Steve Lubet (mail):
intermarriage rates usually refer to a percentage of marriages, rather than a percentage of people. thus, a 50% intermarriage rate would mean only that one third of jews are marrying "out." that is, two of every three jews marry each other, accounting for one half of marriages, while the other marries a gentile, accounting for the other half. (the site linked to the post above does not define intermarriage rate, but i believe i have given the standard definition.)
8.28.2006 10:07pm
rnitz:
David,

What about the possibility that, instead of "hiding" evidence of a Jewish ancestor, that they don't really care or consider it that important.

I know that we have a distant relative (more like great grandparent) named Israel Israel, and never considered it particularly important whether that relative was Jewish or not. Is it creepy (or worse) that we don't care?
8.28.2006 10:13pm
Paul B (mail):
David,

I think your use of the term "creepy" to describe what were essentially secular Jews who decided to leave their past behind them shows a lack of historical perspective on your part.

I have a friend, now deceased, who only learned in adulthood from his Hungarian father that his mother, a Polish woman, was from a Jewish family. She grew up in a non-religious family and was the only member of her family to survive the Nazis. My friend was told of his mother's background upon becoming an adult with the clear understanding that he was never to let his mother know that his father had disclosed this fact to him.

I suspect that Madeline Albright's parents made the same decision. Rather than looking at this choice from the perspective of today, try to place yourself in their shoes in the late 1930s when they fled first to Britain and then to America. Might it not be possible that they decided that it would be in their child's best interest if their daughter never knew about their past in an uncertain world where being considered a Jew imposed a price in the best of times?
8.28.2006 10:23pm
Ted Frank (www):
I can think of two reasons why Jews who escaped the Shoah might not be claiming Judaism without being creepy.

1) A not insignificant number of Jewish children (some orphans, some not) were left with Gentiles to protect them, and then raised Gentile. In some cases, the ruse was discovered, and the children killed--the resources spent on this in the midst of wartime puts the lie to the revisionist claim of anti-Semites that the Germans had any motive other than genocide. When the children survived, in some cases, parents came back for the children after the war; in some cases, the parents never had the chance to come back. Either way, there are going to be issues with self-identification. That's sad, but not for the reasons Professor Lubet seems to be implying.

2) In pre-WWII Europe (and, to a lesser extent, America), anti-Semitism was rife enough that assimilating was an economically savvy option. Many Jews converted. The Nazis did not care about self-identification, and a number of people who never thought of themselves as Jewish discovered that they had a convert grandparent that caused an adverse classification.

Separately, the statistic is that 47% of Jewish newlyweds marry outside the faith, while 33% of all married Jews are in intermarriages. So both of you are right.
8.28.2006 10:25pm
Friedrich Foresight (mail):
There's also the Mark Steyn/ Nick Cohen position: conservatives (or principled leftwingers) who support Israel for utilitarian reasons, and who don't want their Leftbollah critics to be able to accuse them of being tribal Likudnik fifth columnists. See, for example, Steyn's article "Espying the Jew" in National Review (28 August):

...Nick Cohen, of the Observer in London, found himself in a similar situation. Pre-9/11, I always thought of him as an Old Labour leftie — ie, well to the left of Tony Blair. But he knew enough about the Iraqi victims of Saddamite totalitarianism to be unimpressed by the pre-war London “peace” marches. And so he too was deluged by mail accusing him of bad faith or, more to the point, bad blood:

“I typed out a reply that read, ‘but there hasn’t been a Jewish member of my family for 100 years.’ I sounded like a German begging a Gestapo officer to see the mistake in the paperwork. Mercifully, I hit the ‘delete’ button before sending.”

So, yes, I am a Jew, because, after all, only a Jew could “defend” Israel, right? I don’t really “defend” it on anything but utilitarian grounds: Every country in the region — Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia — dates as a sovereign state from 60–70 years ago. The only difference is that Israel has made a go of it. So should we have more states like Israel in the region or more like Syria? I don’t find that a hard question to answer...
8.28.2006 10:29pm
DavidBernstein (mail):
RMitz, there is no reason you should care, unless you are interested in geneology. But if great-grandpa Israel had been asked about his childhood, and said, "oh it was a typical Polish childhood, you know, school, church, whatever," intentionally denying he was Jewish (if he was) that would be creepy.

Paul B, the fact that an action is creepy doesn't make the person who does it a creep. If the Albrights chose to hide their Jewishness for "safety," that's creepy, because it shows how fearful Jews were for their safety, even in America.
8.28.2006 10:30pm
Harry Eagar (mail):
Frank Collin, the Chicago Nazi, was half-Jewish, according to Mike Royko, who was fed the information by the FBI.

I worked with a guy for about five years and was told one day I'd have to cover for him because he was taking a holiday. 'What holiday is that?'

'Rosh Hashanah.'

I had sat next to him for 5 years and had no idea he was Jewish. Exactly, I think, the way it should be, unless he wanted to bring it up, which he didn't.
8.28.2006 11:00pm
Dave Hardy (mail) (www):
My father didn't know that his grandmother was American Indian, or the family name an alias (her husband was an outlaw) until I discovered these facts. His parents split up when he was very young, he was raised by the other grandparents, and they apparently thought neither fact important enough to pass on.
8.28.2006 11:02pm
Average Joe (mail):
I agree with David that there is something creepy about not telling kids about Jewish ancestry because of fear or shame. I also have encountered other attitudes towards partial Jewish ancestry. I would like to breifly mention two more attiudes that I have encountered here. I suspect that both of these attitudes are probably much more common in the present day United States than they are in other places or were in earlier times.

First, I know people who are reluctent to bring up their Jewish ancestry because they think that it would be presumptuous. Friedrich Foresight, 8:53pm above, mentions some possible religious reasons for this behavior, but I have more frequently seen it for social and economic reasons. The people I am thinking of are from lower-middle class or middle class backgrounds and, rightly, see Jews as a remarkably accomplished and affluent group of people (at least on average this is true). These people (at least the ones that I know) therefore view discussing their Jewish ancestry as being phony and pretentious, in the manner of trying to claim something good that is not really rightfully theirs. Clearly this attitude is unlikely to minifest itself in an elite, aristocratic family, so it is likely more common amoung the non-famous than amoung the famous.

A second group consists of people who are partly of Jewsih ancestry who are embarassed to have any non-Jewish ancestry. Interestingly, although I have known several people like this, I have never met any such person where the non-Jewish ancestry was anything to be ashamed of. In the case of a friend and former collegue of mine the non-Jewish ancestry was old-line Ivy League graduate WASP.

The creepy attitudes that David describes appears to be on the decline, and may they decline even more and for good reason. In any case, attitudes towards partial Jewish ancestry are quite varied in the USA today, at least in my experience.
8.28.2006 11:19pm
Average Joe (mail):
And Harry Eager has illustrated yet another attitude toward partial Jewish ancestry, one which I am very glad not to have encountered. Here is a Wikipedia link to an article about Frank Collin. He is one amazingly strange guy, at least according to the information in this article.
8.28.2006 11:38pm
Charlie (Colorado) (mail):

2) In pre-WWII Europe (and, to a lesser extent, America), anti-Semitism was rife enough that assimilating was an economically savvy option. Many Jews converted. The Nazis did not care about self-identification, and a number of people who never thought of themselves as Jewish discovered that they had a convert grandparent that caused an adverse classification.


My grandmother converted from Catholic to Baptist because it was easier in North Georgia (the one next to Alabama, not the other one.) I didn't know until I was probably 25. Is that also creepy and hard to explain?
8.29.2006 12:08am
Christopher Cooke (mail):
I don't think we should be so quick to judge people from the Holocaust era for taking what would seem to be a survival measure, and not telling their children about the conversion. I have only sympathy for them. Perhaps they were ashamed that they had forsaken judaism and that is why they didn't tell their children?
8.29.2006 12:58am
Proud to be a liberal :
One should not blame the victims of anti-Semitism, namely Jews or relatives of Jews, for how anti-Semitism affected them. For Jews to convert to Christianity because they have a true religious conversion is obviously well within their religious liberty. However, for Jews to feel that leaving their religion is strategically a good decision is indeed sad -- and a sadness that should be blamed entirely on those who are anti-Semitic.

And if George Allen is a Christian, why should it matter to any voter if his mother is Jewish? He is free to choose his religious faith. And why should a politician's religious faith be important to any voter?

At one point, Christians objected to intermarriage with Jews. Today, Christian parents are generally more enthusiastic about intermarriage with Jews than Jewish parents are.
8.29.2006 1:40am
Speedwell (mail):
My dad and mom are both from Jewish families. My mom knew about her family, and my dad didn't know about his until I did some research. When I told Dad, he pulled a face and said "No, we aren't Jewish," with the evidence staring him in the face. But when I told Mom's mom, she laughed and laughed and said, "Well, now, that explains everything." I'm definitely Jewish on my mom's side, but I'm not sure about the reason why my Hungarian dad's family stopped being religious. Knowing them, it could have been anything from persecution avoidance to simple pragmatism to just plain atheism.
8.29.2006 1:58am
dw (mail):
"In pre-WWII Europe (and, to a lesser extent, America), anti-Semitism was rife enough that assimilating was an economically savvy option."

It was not only an economic option. It could also be a cultural option for those who found the traditional community confining in one way or another. It is interesting, for example, to note that a relatively large number of Austrian Jews converted to Protestantism. The protestant church in Austria was very small and relatively liberal, and such a conversion was a way of not only distancing oneself from Jewish orthodoxy but also from majority Catholicism.
8.29.2006 4:04am
Friedrich Foresight (mail):
> "large number of Austrian Jews converted to Protestantism... a way of not only distancing oneself from Jewish orthodoxy but also from majority Catholicism."

Aha. ... Otherwise they'd have just swapped "No pork on Fridays, or indeed on any other day" for "No pork on Fridays, or indeed any other meat".
8.29.2006 4:14am
BT:
This may be somewhat related. I am for all intents and purposes a half-breed, white along with mexican/indian ancestry. (I have been told I have a Jewish grandmother, but have been unable to prove it). To a lot of people particulary Mexicans, I look Mexican and I have a typical Latino last name; therefore, they think I speak spanish, which I don't. What happens is they become incredulous,they don't believe me and I have been in some hairy situations due to that, possible fights, having to explain my unusual ancestry, etc over and over again. To solve this problem, I now tell them I am Italian and don't speak spanish or italian, which gets me off the hook. Am I ashamed of my ancestry? No, but I am pragmatic enough that in casual social situations I will lie to get along.
8.29.2006 7:52am
Helen (mail):
My father was Jewish and my mother Christian. When I once identified myself as "half Jewish" to an observant Jew, I was told (rather rudely, I might add) that such a thing was impossible. Either you were Jewish or you weren't. Since my father, not my mother, was Jewish, I was not -- and it was that simple.

I've never said it again. I got the distinct impression that I was not welcome.
8.29.2006 10:31am
Houston Lawyer:
Families hide a lot of things for a variety of reasons. I only found out after my grandmother died that she had previously been married to my grandfather's brother, who had been murdered. I still have no idea why this was kept from me and my siblings for decades.
8.29.2006 11:17am
Al (mail):
When my grandmother married my Arab Christian grandfather when she was 17 years old, she was quickly disowned by her parents and family, who refused to see her or speak with her (apparently, her parents sat shiva for her and would not acknowledge her after that). My understanding is that she refused to talk about her family or her background because it was a very painful issue for her. Under the circumstances, that does not seem to be "creepy" to me.

Also, my experience is similar to Helen's. The few times that I have mentioned my grandmother's background to Jewish acquaintances of mine, the reaction has been negative, if not downright hostile. As a result, it is an issue that I now avoid with Jewish friends and colleagues of mine.
8.29.2006 11:27am
larry rothenberg:
"[I]t is Jews themselves who are the first to say that someone is no longer Jewish. If they convert to Christianity, for example, and call themselves "Messianic Jews", that seems to be regarded as especially offensive. Moreover, it means the claimant is regarded as not covered by the Law of Return. "

This isn't quite accurate. According to Jewish law, someone who was born of a Jewish mother and converts to Christianity is still Jewish, and if he renounces the conversion, he is welcomed back to Judaism with no need to "re-convert" (and neither would his descendants, if they could prove continuous matrilineal descent). "Messianic Jews" are especially offensive b/c they claim that belief in Jesus as the Messiah is in line with traditional Jewish thought, which it clearly isn't. Nevertheless, while such people are ostracized, their personal status as a Jew is still intact.

This situation was source of conflict after the expulsion from Spain in 1492. Those Spanish Jews who left and reestablished themselves in the Ottoman Empire or elsewhere in Europe (e.g., the Netherlands, Italy, parts of Eastern Europe) later discriminated against Jews who remained in Spain and converted but then managed to escape and wanted to rejoin their former Jewish communities in the new lands. The rabbis insisted that they should be allowed b/c by Jewish law they were still Jewish, but the laypeople who had left during the expulsion were angry that the others had tried to hold on to their position in Spain. They were viewed as traitors who had converted to save their own skins (and their money and property) while other people left with nothing in order to preserve Judaism. It was quite the opposite of the notion today that the Marranos or "crypto-Jews" were heroes.

The law of return is an Israeli law and is not based on Jewish law. It grants citizenship to those whom Jewish law does not regard as Jewish, such as someone with only one Jewish grandparent. It's logic is that since the Nazis would have considered anyone with that connection to be Jewish and therefore liable to be killed, the Jewish state, which exists partly to ensure that the Holocaust doesn't happen again, should similarly consider those people Jewish. But that's a political decision, not a religious one.
8.29.2006 11:58am
Gordo:
Some family history to back up David's point:

After my Grandfather's death in 1968 as "Raymond Lauderdale Howard," of Memphis, Tennessee, my father discovered that he was really the son of "Louis Horowitz" of New York, New York. Apparently the Memphis Court House burned down around World War I, destroying all birth records, and anyone could write to them asking for a copy of their burned up birth certificate and get a new one.

Since my Mother was a teenager in Nazi Germany during World War II, and had some more distant relatives serving in the Wehrmacht and Waffen SS, it makes for an interesting lineage combination.
8.29.2006 12:08pm
DDG:
Larry Rothenberg: The Israeli Supreme Court has held twice that the right of return does not attach to Messianic Jews or Jews who have converted to Christianity (unless they renounce their conversion, I believe). But the same law has no trouble with Jewish athiests, although atheism is equally offensive to traditional Jewish thought. This despite the fact that converts would have been considered Jews by the Nazis (see, e.g. Edith Stein/St. Theresa Benedicta of the Cross).
8.29.2006 12:08pm
larry rothenberg:
DDG: Your point only reinforces mine--Israeli law is not Jewish law.
8.29.2006 12:14pm
DavidBernstein (mail):
A few responses:

(1) I once read somewhere that something like 10% of Hungarian Jews converted to Christianity in the 19th century, most famously the ancestors of the Gabor (Zsa Zsa and Eva) family. I've certainly met Jewish Gabors.

(2) I don't know why anyone Jewish would react with hostility if you told them you have a Jewish ancestor.

(3) I also don't see any reason to allow the Orthodox definition of "Jewish" under Jewish law to hold any particular weight unless one is Orthodox. Jewish descent was patrelineal for much of Jewish history, and Reform Judaism, which has far more adherents in the U.S. than Orthodox Judaism, has abandoned matrelineal descent as the standard. As a practical matter, if someone has a Jewish parent, was raised Jewish, and considers himself/herself Jewish, in the American context that person is Jewish.

(4) Converting to another religion is far worse from a Jewish perspective, religious or otherwise, than being an atheist. I really don't know of anyone who would argue otherwise. The interesting question is whether that mentality will change if and when at least some fracton of "Messianic Jews" keep their Jewish identity for several generations, while "Jewish atheists" in societies like America lose their ethnic ties.
8.29.2006 12:24pm
dw (mail):
David Bernstein wrote:

"I once read somewhere that something like 10% of Hungarian Jews converted to Christianity in the 19th century, most famously the ancestors of the Gabor (Zsa Zsa and Eva) family. I've certainly met Jewish Gabors."

The Gabor sister's mother, born a Tileman, was from a Jewish family. It is not unusual for Hungarian families with German names to be of Jewish origin, but this is not exclusive -- plenty of Christian Hungarians and Hungarians of German ethnicity also have German family names. There is, however, a widespread trend to Hungarify names, and changing your name to a more Hungarian name is a relatively unbureaucratic procedure in Hungary. For example, the recently deceased composer, Ligeti, carried a Hungarified version of the family name Auer (the violinist Auer was his uncle and Ligeti ("park") is a fair translation of Auer ("meadow")) "Gabor" (= "Gabriel") is both a common Hungarian Christian and Jewish name; the paternal line of the Gabor family may or may not have had Jewish roots.

Perhaps a more interesting phenomenon in Hungary is the tendency for those with Jewish connections to receive clearly christian first names, or to identify firmly with the Calvinist church, which in Hungary has a strongly nationalist identity. Given the anti-Semitism of both the Horty era and the era following the 1956 uprising (both the Council Republic under Bela Kun and the early socialist state are widely viewed as regimes with strong Jewish participation), these practices may be viewed as precautionary measures.
8.29.2006 2:10pm
Harry Eagar (mail):
One reason I love America is that, unlike most other places, you can be what you want to be, as much as you want to be. An anecdote:

Friends of the family were holding a wedding. The groom was half Irish, half Japanese by ancestry and looks entirely Japanese. The bride was half Spanish, half Eastern European Jewish by ancestry and is, to my mind, not easy to pigeonhole as to ethnicity.

They had the ceremony at the beach, with the full Jewish regalia. There was a public sidewalk, with tourists strolling by, and you could tell which ones came from communities with lots of Jews: while about half the tourists walked by without much reaction other than idle curiosity, the other half gave startle reactions and the 'funny, you don't look Jewish' look passed across their faces.
8.29.2006 5:44pm
Avigdor M'Bawlmawr:
To DDG &Larry Rothenberg:

I'm reminded of a joke.

A very secular Jewish couple ends up sending their daughter to the local Catholic school. One day the father asks, "what did you learn in school today, honey?" She replies, "about the Trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit." The father gets very agitated. He tells her forcefully, "listen, their is only one G-d, and we don't believe in Him."
8.30.2006 4:00am
Fern R (www):
It's not entirely correct to state that the definition of a Jew for Law of Return purposes is solely based on a legal definition with no tie to an Orthodox definition. Whether or not your one grandparent is Jewish is still determined by the Orthodox standard, and anyone who has converted is only judged to have a valid conversion if he or she underwent an Orthodox conversion. Sometimes it even matters which type of Orthodox conversion you had as some Modern Orthodox Beth Dins are frowned upon by the head Rabbis in Israel. Anyway, the people I know who have made aliyah have had to provide a letter from an Orthodox rabbi attesting to their Jewishness and copies of their mother's ketubah, and sometimes their matrilineal grandmother's ketubah.
8.30.2006 5:06am
Friedrich Foresight (mail):
> "about the Trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit." The father gets very agitated. He tells her forcefully, "listen, the[re] is only one G-d..."

I get the joke, but to be a pedant, Christians don't believe there is any conflict between "one God" and the Trinity, any more than Jews using "Elohim" instead of "El" indicates polytheism. Of course, it is easy to see how to a non-Christian the Trinity would look like three gods.
8.30.2006 9:23am
Paul Snively:
FWIW, the point of the joke is that the secular Jewish father still carries a traditional distate for Christianity's "polytheism" despite being secular. The Jewish distaste for the doctrine of the trinity is both easily understandable and well-established; the well-known 13th-century Kabbalist Abraham Abulafia warned his fellow Kabbalists against turning the 10 sefirot into even more gods than the Catholics with their three!
8.30.2006 7:30pm
Buck Turgidson (mail):
To Fern R.
It should be noted that "the Orthodox tradition" is not devoid of its pragmatic element. Although traditions often seem to be based in religious practice, the reality is often otherwise. The current situation with multiple denominations creating problems for "conversions" is not dissimilar from past situations where different localities feuded on whether some families may or may not be considered Jewish. The greatest problem of this sort was in the Dutch Republic and the Netherlands in general, following the expulsion from Spain and forced conversion in Portugal (15-17th centuries). The families who were forcibly converted often tried to revert to Judaism upon escaping from the Iberian region. In many cases, this also applied to the families that converted--at least in appearances--voluntarily. Those who ended up in the Middle East, especially Palestine, found little difficulty in being declared Jewish again (I find myself in slight disagreement with Larry Rothenberg above). Those who resettled in other parts of Europe (viz a vie Spain, not the Middle East), particularly in the Netherlands, were ostracised by the local Jewish communities and found it much more difficult to return to Judaism (being barred from the local Synagogue had a bit to do with it). The extra complication was that some communities were almost entirely formed by refugee families and thus could re-claim their Jewish status without rabbinical obstructions.

One important result of this is that the "Dutch" Jews started the modern secularist tradition. Another is that it created a rabbinical precedent that has now resulted in the Law of Return and a number of other archane rules in Israel.

I have a rather dim view of Orthodox claim to the supremacy in determining who is or is not a Jew. I also abhor when people try to claim that Jewish identity is religious--as David has pointed out in the past, the Nazis and other anti-Semites rarely care(d) for one's religious convictions.

Another comment I wanted to make concerns Average Joe's division of the reluctant Jews into two groups. I would add a third, of which there are some rather prominent members. Collin was mentioned by several people earlier. But also Karl Marx, whose family converted. And to that I would add the Russian anti-Semite and pseudo-nationalist Zhirinovsky, whose own brand of anti-Semitism may well have arised from his attempt to rid himself of his Jewish ancestry. And now, it appears, we can add George Allen to this list, as it is highly likely that he was, in fact, aware of his mother's Jewish identity and tried to run away from it. I would hypothesize that it was this very conflict that prompted him to seek a new identity among the white supremacists and not just mere youthful indiscretions (which is how his display of the confederate flag has been described). Allen has repeatedly approached racist groups either with his behavior or openly embracing them and, it seems, the macaca comment only reinforced this view. Of course, even calling someone macaca will not save him from his fellow nutballs if they find out that his mother is Jewish--hopefully, a befitting end to a shameful political career.
8.31.2006 12:01pm
Hannah Grossman (mail):
"My father was Jewish and my mother Christian. When I once identified myself as "half Jewish" to an observant Jew, I was told (rather rudely, I might add) that such a thing was impossible. Either you were Jewish or you weren't. Since my father, not my mother, was Jewish, I was not -- and it was that simple.

I've never said it again. I got the distinct impression that I was not welcome."

I'm sorry that Helen was spoken to rudely or harshly and felt unwelcome, but technically, you can't be half Jewish. Judaism is a religion. Its kind of an all or nothing thing, either you believe in it or you don't. Further, the reform movement believes in patrilineal decent so, one could be Jewish for that purpose with a Jewish father. Reform Judaism is very welcoming. If someone like Helen wanted to practice Judaism, I am sure any Reform Temple would be pleased to have her as a member.
A Reform Temple though would consider other factors in determining if one was Jewish like what one observes, what one believes (for examples, if one accepts Jesus Christ as one's personal savior, one is not Jewish no matter what one's parents were born) and whether one has converted to or practiced, depending on the bounds, another religion. One cannot be half Jewish in the way one cannot be half Catholic and half Protestant. Each one involves beliefs are diametrically opposed to each other.
9.1.2006 9:48am
Friedrich Foresight (mail):
Out of curiosity, is there any significance to Reform congregations using the term "Temple" as opposed to "synagogue"? Would Orthodox reserve "Temple" for *the* one in Jerusalem, kind of like the way Catholic/ Orthodox Christians have "priests" but Protestants don't?
9.1.2006 5:47pm
Friedrich Foresight (mail):
> "in the way one cannot be half Catholic and half Protestant"

Have you ever read CS Lewis? Or a lot of other Anglicans?

Couldn't Samaritans or Karaim be described, very broadly, as "half-Jewish"?
9.1.2006 5:51pm