If we're all about saving lives, where's the "car control" movement? =)

The future car control movement is currently busy getting trans-fatty acids banned. But don't worry, car control is on the agenda, right after mandatory exercise.

Rob Davidson,

I have a similar question for you. Why does your claim "logically make[] every single 'gun control' law ever passed by the Congress rather blatantly unconstitutional"?

Isn't the possession of a AK-47 by a 3-time felon with a restraining order against him something like shouting fire in a theater?

"What better way to fight terrorists than have President HR Clinton round up domestic weapon stockpiles?"

What better way to start the Second Civil War than have President HR Clinton round up domestic weapon stockpiles?

After all
1. The American Revolution was started by British Gun Conviscation.

2. The Texas War of Independance was started when Mexician Army tried to take a Cannon in Goliad. The Texians flew a flag with a Cannon and the words "Come and Take it" on it.

Only Democrats would be stupid enough to give the order to conviscate American guns. And Stupid enough to believe that their orders would be followed by the police let alone the Army. And finaly that the American gun owners would just give up their guns. Some would, many would just hide their guns, but enough would fight. They wouldn't become terrorist. But is it a good idea to piss off people that for fun shoot varmints at 400+ yards, that shoot .25in groups at 100 yards, etc. I don't think so.

Isn't the possession of a AK-47 by a 3-time felon with a restraining order against him something like shouting fire in a theater?

falsely shouting fire in a theater, perhaps?

Well Dan, the average gun owner isn't stupid enough to shoot at the police or the Army. The average gun owner has a house, a job, and a family, he has neither the time nor the inclination for armed insurrection. Just as in the UK, Australia, and Canada, if the government ordered people to surrender their guns, the vast majority of the people would do so. Unfortunately, these would be exactly the people whose guns did not need to be confiscated...

Dear Curious,
You sure ask a lot of questions.

Yes, asking questions is in my nature.

(FYI: I'm curious. Not sure who the Curious character is who also posts here. Curious.)

Jiminy - The problem is, where exactly do you draw the line at "gun parts" ? The reciever flat referenced above is just a piece of sheet steel with some holes and cutouts. Anyone with enough machinery and equipment to make a receiver out of it, could, with little dificulty, take a piece of sheet steel and make the receiver from that.

So do you restrict sheet steel? Steel billets? other raw materials?

The truth is that anyone with some rudimentary machining skills, can, with some time, determination, and five to ten thousand dollars worth of easily available machinery (lathe, mill, etc.) make a full auto weapon from raw billets of steel. They couldn't make very many or do it very quickly, but it can be done.

MS

Isn't the possession of a AK-47 by a 3-time felon with a restraining order against him something like shouting fire in a theater?

It may well be, but it isn't a prerogative of the federal govt to make and enforce such a law. Unless you can cite the connection to commerce there.

Unless you can cite the connection to commerce there.

Oh, hell, he's using ammo shipped in interstate commerce. Or the underpants of the person he's pointing the gun at came across state lines. Or something, anything.

Well I watched. What a lying POS. Let me just point out a few of Grossman's lies or subtle rethoric. He taked about assault weapons and Machine guns in the same breath trying to make the ignorant think they are the same. When he said Arnold banned fifty caliber rifes he said they were automatics. He acts like the closing of his mystical gun show loop hole would have stopped Columbine. No they lady who bought the firearms would have passed a NICS check but of coarse he did not mention that FACT. He ignores the NY and CA have confiscated firearms. He acts like he does not know what is going on at the UN. He ignores his idea of safe storage would violate the 4th amendment but laments the Patriot Act how hypocritical. All I saw was a old leftist wanting to take people firearms because he thinks they are bad and he says he trusts the Government. I say BS. If he was not a black helicopter guy himself he would have not problem with the Patriot Act. He also ignores that the Brady Bill has not decreased crimes with firearms while giving the number of firearm purchaces that were denied as fact that gun control laws have worked to decrease crime. He made me ill and ANGRY. Then he paints the NRA as racist then denies he did so. Then he uses the well known tactic of all leftists by giving emotional sob stories to further his propaganda with a last dance on the graves of the dead for his poticial agenda. And I mean political agenda not his fake worry about gun violence. He is a fraud and a hater of FREEDOM. I'm going to go outside and shoot off a few 100 rounds to spit in his face and calm down. I am mentally cussing in my mind as a southern lady does not do that outloud!!!!!!!!!!! LOL. He also appeared like a Cobra wanting to strike with anger he was suppressing. He did do a good dog and pony show that would convience the uninformed and emotional.

Too bad Kopel didn't know what a "[receiver] flat" was, he could have done a better job of refuting this particular part of Grossman nonsense.

The about-to-disappear Surplusrifle.com had a
lengthier article on the entire process of building an AK from a flat.

One Nation is certain the people who support the Second Amendment must be enemies of some other causes that Mr. Grossman cares about: "there is a clear link between people who are passionate about denying women the right to make reproductive choices

Yet Grossman and his ilk believe that women are too stupid to weigh the risks-vs-benefits of owning and/or carrying a handgun for self-protection, and therefore must be denied the right to make that choice. That attitude displays so much of what is wrong with the so-called "pro-choice" movement.

When was the last time you heard a so-called "pro-choice" politician say something like, "While I am personally opposed to personal firearms ownership, I would never restrict a woman's right to choose to own a gun"?

It's obviously news to some politicians and lobbyists that when people are allowed to make choices, people might actually choose things they disagree with.

As photographer Oleg Volk observed, the phrase "My Body, My Choice" also includes "the means of protecting it."

Disclosure: I'm pro-abortion.