Anisa Abd el Fattah (head of the National Association of Muslim-American Women, head of the International Association for Muslim Women and Children, and coauthor, as Caroline Keeble, of The Agent: The Truth Behind the Anti-Muslim Campaign in America) passes along this "National Association of Muslim American Women (NAMAW) Statement on Free Speech":
As US citizens and women of faith and conscience, the National Association of Muslim American Women (NAMAW) recognizes, and works to uphold and protect the Constitutional rights of every American.We believe that the First Amendment and the Bill of Rights are the pillars of freedom, and true liberty in the US and that they are indispensable, and should be interpreted, used and protected as intended, and explained by our country’s Founders.
We do not believe that slander, libel, defamation, perjury, seditious speech, or speech that is intended to undermine the equal rights, and equal protection under the law of any US citizen is protected by the First Amendment.
The NAMAW complaint to the Department of Justice calling for an investigation of the Jewish Lobby is not an attempt to chill, or to remove the right to free speech of Jewish Americans or anyone else.
It is an attempt to end a historic campaign by certain organizations and people, of misinformation and hate mongering against Muslims, Arabs and other Americans who are targeted by these groups, and slandered and defamed as “anti-Semites” or worse, "terrorists" or "potential terrorists" if they utilize their rights to free speech to criticize Israel, question aspects of the Holocaust, or to give an opinion about the US/Israel relationship that is not favorable to Israel, or that is in support of Palestinian rights, or that calls into question the behavior or speech of any Jewish personality or person.
The NAMAW complaint is an effort that is aimed at leveling the political playing field in the US, so that all Americans, rich, poor, Jewish and non Jewish, can participate freely, fairly and equally in the political process, including debates and discussions on any topic, including topics pertaining to the Jewish history, religion, and culture, and also Israel, and Palestine. It is intended to protect the rights of every American to formulate and express a political or religious opinion, make and express their religious and/or political choices, traditions, cultures etc., without fear of reprisal from these organizations and people, and their international network of facilitators.
We believe that the Jewish Lobby in the United States has used its resources and influence to chill, deprive and violate the first amendment rights of other Americans in an attempt to dominate the political discourse in the US on issues related to the Palestine/Israel conflict, and to prevent opposing views, and/or information about Palestinian suffering, and Israeli violations of international law, and human rights abuses from being exposed. We believe that to accomplish this repression, deprivation, and violation of rights of other citizens, the Jewish Lobby and its facilitators and supporters have used threats, harm, and acts of persecution that include defamation, slander, perjury, vandalism and other acts, such as carrying out organized campaigns to deny other citizens their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
We also believe that the Jewish Lobby has acted to create an environment in the US that is hostile to Muslims, Arabs, and others, including White nationalists, and Christians so that members of these groups can be discriminated against, and denied rights such as rights to the assumption of innocence unless proven guilty of a crime in a court of law, fair trials, due process, and justice, political association, organizing and petitioning our government on matters related to civil rights, liberties, and foreign policy.
We also believe that the Jewish Lobby in the US has worked to undermine the US Constitution, since the Constitution protects the inalienable rights of all citizens equally. Certain interpretations of the Jewish faith calls for limiting the Constitutional rights of non-Jews, and the establishment of special rights, laws and protections for Jews, and their special interests. We believe that this behavior is criminal, and unconstitutional and that it must be stopped.
"We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among which are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." US Declaration of Independence
NAMAW
Anisa Abd el Fattah
Chairwoman
I leave it to others to discuss what exactly would flow from recognizing a "seditious speech" exception to the First Amendment (see here for the Court's most recent extended discussion of that), or an exception for "speech that is intended to undermine the equal rights, and equal protection under the law of any US citizen is protected by the First Amendment."
But I do wonder just how much protection NAMAW's speech, with its repeated condemnation of "the Jewish Lobby," would likely get if such a standard were adopted. (Even if NAMAW's actual intentions were pure, it would be up to judges and juries to evaluate them.) I likewise wonder about the allegation that "Certain interpretations of the Jewish faith calls for limiting the Constitutional rights of non-Jews, and the establishment of special rights, laws and protections for Jews, and their special interests." Isn't it the case that certain interpretations of the Muslim faith (not all interpretations, but "certain" ones) call for limiting free speech and religious freedom rights of non-Muslims, and the establishment of special rights, laws and protections for Muslims, and their special interests?
In any case, I thought I'd pass this along, in case some of our readers would find this interesting. To get a sense of Anisa Abd el Fattah's public role -- which doesn't seem to be vast, but is apparently not nil -- google Anisa Abd el Fattah or Caroline Keeble (though the latter will get quite a few false positives).
Related Posts (on one page):
- A Heartwarming Tale of People Coming Together:
- Anisa Abd el Fattah on the First Amendment:
- Anisa Abd el Fattah Responds:
- Correction Regarding Anisa Abd el Fattah and CAIR:
- Former Member of CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations) Board Files Complaint with Justice Department About (Among Others) "the 'Jewish Lobby'":
I'm trying to take her position seriously... really, I am. But this speech offers no new evidence to rebut my initial presumption... that what we have here is just reactionary, extremist consipracy theory, of identical character and nearly-identical form to that espoused by so many other extremist factions... be they "white seperatist", religious fundamentalist (of ALL stripes), hyper-nationalists, political-economic idealogues, etc.
Just replace "the Jewish lobby" with your own particular villian: "secularists", "pacifist-aggressives", "space aliens", whatever.
Even passing by the ironies of demanding for the Islamic community what she denies to the 'Jewish Lobby," she just doesn't get that private reprisal by anyone, including the 'Jewish Lobby,' is fundamentally protected by the First Amendment, and that governmental reprisal -- which would be prohibitd by the First Amendment -- is not happening.
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html
Response to Mearsheimer and Walt
The arguments that Dershowitz uses to rebut Mearshheimer and Walt's paper are eerily similar to the ones are used to rebut Jimmy Carter's book.
Arguments against Mearsheimer and Walt's paper:
"Professor Alan Dershowitz demonstrates that the paper contains three types of major errors: quotations are wrenched out of context, important facts are misstated or omitted; and embarrassingly weak logic is employed."
Criticisms leveled at Jimmy Carter's book:
"The real reason Carter won't debate me is that I would correct his factual errors."
"It is a tendentious, dishonest and stupid book."
"What a warped sense of history, past and present; what a blatant abuse of our sensibilities. ..."
Not surprisingly, Mearsheimer and Walt discuss, in great detail, how the Israeli lobby (of which Dershowitz is a major part of) attempts to silence anyone that criticizes Israel. Maybe Miss Abd el Fattah's complaint has some merit after all!
new school tribal and regressive thinking
How are Mearsheimer, Walt, and Carter being "silenced?"
What else have these people done in their recent lives that have garnered them as much stardom and notoriety as their claims of victimhood at the hands of the Jewish/Israel conspiracy designed to silence them? In particular, Mearsheimer and Walt. Who ever heard of these two before they started to claim that they are being silenced?
Are people allowed to criticize crticism of Israel? Or is criticism of Israel above question, because then it is a "Jewish" attack on critics of Israel which, conveniently, proves the points of the original criticism? And must Jews be silent in the face of criticism of Israel, even if they believe the criticism is not warranted?
This recalls the old joke about the Jew in 1930s Germany who confronts his friend, horrified that the latter is reading Der Sturmer. "How can you read such a terrible rag?" "Well," responds the friend, "if I read our Jewish press, all I read about is pogroms, and oppression, and difficulty. If I read Der Sturmer, we Jews rule the world, control banking, the media, etc."
It's at the front of the Jewish building. If it's raining out, please wipe your shoes on the mats in the lobby before entering the building.
Perhaps the reason for the similarity is that both Mearsheimer and Walt's paper and Jimmy Carter's book might both be similarly erroneous?
Notwithstanding that, your characterization of Dershowitz's argument is not quite fair, as he then spends 44 pages detailing the factual innaccuracies in the Mearsheimer and Walt paper.
With regards to your equating Dershowitz's critique of M&W's paper with 'an attempt to silence criticism' - I remain unconvinced that correcting factual innacuracies amounts to 'silencing' or censorship as M&W and Ms. Abd el Fattah claim.
Just a wild guess -- The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
Criticizing critics of Israel is not the issue. The issue is the manner in which the criticism is done. Questioning the researcher or writer's methodology, motives, and facts take the discussion off of the actual issue(s). One can question minor methodological and technical issues and interpret facts subjectively ad nausea. Take Jimmy Carter's book for example. While it does have a Palestinian bias, it explores many of the main issues that are obstacles to peace between Israel and the Palestinians. I think it is healthy to occasionally hear the other sides' (in this case the Palestinians) point of view. The opportunity to engage in balanced, thoughtful debate was thrown entirely off course by the loud and frequent attacks (that were largely personal in nature) on Jimmy Carter.
what is it that you find to be "eerie" about Dershowitz's arguments?
Yes, Brady; those argumentative techniques are known as "historic facts", "corrections" and "supplying missing context", and they are supported by things lled "citations". At one time they were considered persuasive and appropriate methods of dealing with protracted works of distortion such as those that you mentioned.
Apparently you are both unfamiliar with and suspicious of the techniques Prof. Dershowitz has used. So are Messrs. Walt, Mearsheimer and Carter. Like you, they seem to think that it is sufficient refutation to charge the user of such nefarious techniques with being part of the Zionist lobby.
We're not allowed to question methodology, motives, or facts? What's left that we're allowed to question, the fact that they used Times New Roman instead of Courier?
In other words, you have just said that it does not matter if a position is built on lies, half truths and just plain mistakes.
If that's the case, I think you should stop slaughtering small children for their blood, and you should pay me $500 million as compensation for your crimes. Never mind that my "proof" that you have done so is based on equal parts of proven lies, innuendo, fantasy and sloppy research, and never mind that there's no reason the $500 million should go to me even if the allegations were true; after all, attacking my statements simply brings the discussion off of the main issue -- you aren't trying to JUSTIFY the slaughter of children, are you?
Good grief.
Clearly you need to go back to lit-crit and understand the importanc of the text standing alone. Sheesh, where do the pre-post-modernists get off...
I think folks confuse the silencing of criticism with the dismissal of criticism.
保健食品 中华康网 中国肿瘤网 肺癌 抗癌药品 胃癌 食道癌 肝癌 胰腺癌 贲门癌 甲状腺癌 直肠癌 结肠癌 宫颈癌 卵巢癌 乳腺癌 肾癌 前列腺癌 子宫肌瘤 抗癌饮食 好狗网 中国文秘网
中国癌症网 肺癌 胃癌 肝癌 肾癌 食道癌 子宫颈癌 乳腺癌 卵巢癌 直肠癌 结肠癌 皮肤癌 甲状腺癌 胰腺癌 前列腺癌 膀胱癌 骨癌 鼻咽癌 脑瘤
抗癌中药
癌症 乳腺癌 肺癌 胃癌 食管癌 肿瘤 直肠癌 结肠癌 肝癌 宫颈癌 脑瘤 甲状腺肿瘤 胆囊癌 胆管癌 前列腺癌 白血病 鼻咽癌 肾癌 恶性淋巴瘤 皮肤癌 喉癌 舌癌 胰腺癌 膀胱癌 肺癌 肝癌 胃癌 食道癌 宫颈癌 直肠癌 结肠癌 胰腺癌 乳腺癌 脑瘤 珍香胶囊 清肺散结丸 抗癌平丸 慈丹胶囊 金复康口服液 消癌平片 西黄丸 食道平散 复方斑蝥胶囊 天芝草胶囊 癌症网 肝癌网
Brady, having overcome my Reconstructionist upbringing, I was never much able to function as a Deconstructionist.
Of course, I can see where you'd rather talk Borat and about the threats of imposing sharia law here in America. Silencing the critics means you think no Americans think critically of Israeli policies.
Instead we can concentrate on the injustices of not being able to date your hairdresser for three years. lol.
I predict irrelevance will be "in" as the realities of past policies begin to catch up with the politicians, and the academics and professional analysts back off from their previous support.