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How Many Justices Would Support a Commerce Clause Challenge to the Federal Partial Birth Abortion Ban?

Justice Clarence Thomas, joined by Justice Scalia, wrote an interesting concurrence in yesterday's partial birth abortion case, indicating that he might be sympathetic to a Commerce Clause challenge to the federal partial birth abortion ban that was just upheld by the Court. At the oral argument, liberal justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and John Paul Stevens also suggested that they believe that at least some applications of the statute exceed Congress' enumerated powers under the Commerce Clause. I discuss their concerns in more detail here and here.

Assuming for the sake of argument that these four justices would all support a Commerce Clause challenge to the statute, could they pick up a fifth vote? It is difficult to know for sure, but the answer may well be yes. As I explained at the time of his nomination, Justice Alito had a strong record of support for limits on federal power as a court of appeals judge, and he might well continue in that vein on the Supreme Court. It is also possible, though far less likely, that Justice Souter or Justice Breyer (who wrote the Supreme Court's earlier partial birth abortion decision, Stenberg v. Carhart), would place their commitment to abortion rights ahead of their commitment to virtually unlimited federal power.

All of this is of course highly conjectural. Predicting justices' votes on the basis of remarks in oral arguments is a chancy business. Ditto with predictions based on opaque concurring opinions. Only in the case of Justice Thomas am I close to certain about what his vote will be. The other four are considerably more difficult to predict. Moreover, whether or not a Commerce Clause challenge to the partial birth abortion ban succeeds will depend in part on the specific facts of the case. A case addressing a partial birth abortion in a nonprofit clinic involving a woman who did not cross state lines, would be more likely to succeed than one with a commercial clinic or an interstate transaction.

Nonetheless, there is at least some significant chance that a cross-ideological coalition of justices would be willing to support a federalism-based challenge to the congressional partial birth abortion ban. If it does come to pass, it will be hugely important as the first Commerce Clause case in decades where federal power was constrained by a coalition of liberal and conservative justices rather than by a narrow 5-4 majority consisting of the five most conservative members of the Court. In my view (see here for details), judicial enforcement of limits on federal power cannot survive in the long run if it remains a parochial concern of conservatives and libertarians. Just as with judicial enforcement of free speech, freedom of religion, and other constitutional constraints on government power, it requires a broader cross-ideological consensus in order to succeed.

Gregory Conen (mail):
I'd go with Adler that the law would probably not be struck down on its face, due to the clause limiting its scope.

The question, then, is what its scope would be found to be. Would only free clinics be excluded, or even them? Would only cases where someone crossed a state line be included?
4.19.2007 1:24am
whimsy:
"How Many Justices Would Support a Commerce Clause Challenge to the Federal Partial Birth Abortion Ban?"
Why not? The Commerce clause is used for so much else that seems to have little bearing on interstate commerce. Given the way it has been interpreted as extending federal authority for everything from crop quotas to marijuana grown for private use, is there anything not covered by the commerce clause? Is there any justice who has a consistent philosophy regarding the commerce clause? The justices seem to flip-flop on its extent with their opinions driven more by their feelings about the particular issues affected.
4.19.2007 1:30am
zhongliu (mail):
4.19.2007 2:06am
Kovarsky (mail):
Ilya,

C'mon:

would place their commitment to abortion rights ahead of their commitment to virtually unlimited federal power.

I believe they would phrase their commerce clause jurisprudence as a commitment to precedent. Theirs is no more a commitment to "unlimited federal power" just because they voted in accordence with precedent than is justice scalia's vote in 8th amendment cases a "commitment to death" because he votes in accordence with his vision of precedent.
4.19.2007 2:09am
Mike Liveright (mail):
I wonder if the people who want the "Partial Birth" law struck down on the basis of a weak Commerce Clause are willing to live with the implications of that.

As I see it, Row vs Wade might also, at the same time be struck down as a Commerce Clause overreach.

Thus this may well be a useful end run to not judging the validity of Roe, which some of the court would prefer not to do, but just to declare it null and void as a precedural manner.
4.19.2007 3:59am
duran:
I fail to see the Commerce Clause implications to Roe v. Wade. RvW was a case about a state law, not a federal one. The Commerce Clause would not apply.
4.19.2007 7:56am
Just an Observer:
For reasons I outlined in a previous thread, I think it is a stretch to assume that Scalia would vote to overturn the PBA on Commerce Clause grounds. (Thomas probably would.)

The fact that Scalia joined the Thomas concurrence in Gonzales v Carhart is not dispositive, as that concurrence merely stated that the Commerce Clause was not on the table in this case. The concurrence coyly omitted any actual opinion on the question, possibly to secure Scalia's vote.
4.19.2007 8:24am
AppSocRes (mail):
Something noted only in passing in this post is the judicial consistency and integrity of Thomas versus all the other justices currently sitting. Thomas bases his jurisprudence on what he believes the law and Constitution say and does not waver from this even when it may support policies that he opposes. That everyone on this post seems to more or less accept that the other justices will craft opinions which suit their personal preferences rather than the law, shows how far the judiciary in this country has strayed from its proper function.
4.19.2007 8:46am
JohnO (mail):
I have my doubts that the libs on the Court would strike down the PBA statute on Commerce Clause grounds. The time to do it would have been now, before the substance had been upheld, but there clearly weren't the votes for that because the issue hadn't been raised below.

Now that the statute has been upheld on its substance, states can adopt similar PBA laws based on the Carhart precedent. Tossing out the statute on Commerce Clause grounds now would just throw the conservatives a bone in building stronger federalism jurisprudence without affecting states' abilities to enact PBA statutes. The only benefit from the liberal side to a Commerce Clause ruling now would be to preserve a right to PBA in those states that would not be inclined to ban it.

And, as Adler said, the statute has its own limiting clause that would make a Commerce Clause challenge problematic. For example, I assume that, at a minimum, there would be no Commerce Clause issue with respect to PBAs performed on federal land, and the traveling across state angle probably survives a Commerce Clause challenge under current jurisprudence.
4.19.2007 8:47am
Zathras (mail):
Instead of basing its argument on the Commerce Clause, could the government argue section 5 authority for the statute, since the statute was passed to protect the rights of viable fetuses? If adopted, this holding would be the first step towards the Holy Grail for pro-life advocates--the recognizing of personhood for fetuses.
4.19.2007 9:13am
Just an Observer:
From the perspective of pro-choice advocates, it is difficult to see what they would have to gain by pressing a Commerce Clause challenge. For that matter, neither side in the larger abortion debate really cares that much about the direct result in this case, which is upholding the PBA act itself.

What mattered deeply to both sides in the legal struggle was the precedential value of the Gonzales v Carhart decision as a building-block in an ongoing campaign, and the decision is already a big win for the pro-life faction on several legal questions. Having the PBA tossed out on federalism grounds now would subtract nothing from that precedential victory.

The other major impact of this controversy on both sides is political, not legal.

So before counting hypothetical votes on the court in a hypothetical case, look for a real-life plaintiff with the standing and the will to bring it.
4.19.2007 9:36am
Justin (mail):
Wouldn't you only need one justice to strike down the statute on commerce clause grounds, since you already have four votes that say the statute is beyond Congress's authority already (for other reasons)? Granted, it wouldn't be much of a holding for other statutes.
4.19.2007 9:47am
JSA (mail):

From the perspective of pro-choice advocates, it is difficult to see what they would have to gain by pressing a Commerce Clause challenge. For that matter, neither side in the larger abortion debate really cares that much about the direct result in this case, which is upholding the PBA act itself


Well, as a practical matter a successful Commerce Clause challenge would take Congress out of the business, for the most part, of regulating abortion. I think that would be a significant victory for the pro-choice advocates. Obviously the pro-choice advocates would prefer as their first choice decisions that say neither the states nor the federal governemnt can regulate abortion in certain ways based on Roe and its progeny, but as a second best opion, eliminatng federal regulation of abortion certainly helps their cause.
4.19.2007 9:50am
DCL (mail):
As appealing as the idea may be in this instance, what about the medical marijuana decision Gonzales v. Raich or the assisted suicide decision? Wouldn't a ruling that regulation of medical procedures (which after all do cost money and may involve people crossing state lines to get them) violates the Commerce Clause completely fly in the face of the Court's precedent? I know Thomas has long had problems with the extent of the Commerce Clause but no one has regularly joined him in this. What's with Ginsburg and Stevens?

Personally, I would hate to see a successful Commerce Clause challenge because that opens the door to more Morrison's and Lopez's and less Raich's.
4.19.2007 10:18am
Jake (Guest):
Given the existence of a multi-state market for abortions, how would a non-profit abortion not affect interstate commerce under Wickard? Do you think the Court would overrule Wickard and Raich, or just create an "abortion exception"?

It doesn't seem like such a great deal for conservative jurisprudence if you basically have two votes against most exercises of Commerce Clause power and three votes that swing in whenever the power is exercised in pursuit of some conservative objective.
4.19.2007 10:20am
Justin (mail):
I think there's a lot of distance between this case (involving the banning of a medical procedure) and Wickard and Raich (involving the regulation or banning of commodities).
4.19.2007 10:25am
Bruce Hayden (mail) (www):
I think there's a lot of distance between this case (involving the banning of a medical procedure) and Wickard and Raich (involving the regulation or banning of commodities).
I disagree. As noted above, there is an interstate market already in abortions, and in the case of medical marijuana, attempts were made to keep its affect within the state.

And, even if you are right that a court could posit a plausible distinction in favor of marijuana regulation and against abortion regulation, there are still plenty of laws on the books that are based on the Commerce Clause with less interstate commerce impact than this one.
4.19.2007 11:05am
Gordo:
Sorry, Ilya, there aren't four votes to toss the federal act based upon the Commerce Clause.

As soon as Scalia saw that such a position would result in the invalidation of a law he supports for policy reasons, he would find some flimsy excuse to abandon ship.

He's proven he could do it in Raich v. Gonzales, there's no reason to doubt he would do it in this situation too.
4.19.2007 11:34am
Mark Field (mail):

Obviously the pro-choice advocates would prefer as their first choice decisions that say neither the states nor the federal governemnt can regulate abortion in certain ways based on Roe and its progeny, but as a second best opion, eliminatng federal regulation of abortion certainly helps their cause.


I don't think this is right. Pro-choice advocates have consistently tried to strike down state regulations of abortion. If they see an opportunity for Congress to occupy the field, I'm sure they'll prefer that to regulation in South Dakota or Utah. In the long run, I see this decision as disastrous for those who oppose abortion -- the nation as a whole supports the right much more than individual states do.
4.19.2007 11:44am
Roger Schlafly (www):
How do you explain the fact that the abortionists did not even bother to make the Commerce Clause argument. Were they too stupid to think of it? Could they have been certain that it would fail? Did they have some ideological reason for not wanting to win on those grounds?
4.19.2007 12:53pm
Kovarsky (mail):
who are "abortionists?" can the pejoratives for those on the other side of a debate get any sillier? are people who argue for strict interpretations of habeas laws "deathists?"
4.19.2007 2:17pm
Roger Schlafly (www):
An abortionist is a physician who performs abortions. It is a neutral dictionary word. Look it up if you are really curious. The word also has the merit that the meaning is obvious, even if you don't have a dictionary.

I wasn't taking sides in the case, but just looking for an explanation for why one side of the case did not make an argument that might have convinced some of the justices.
4.19.2007 2:38pm
Kovarsky (mail):
The word also has the merit that the meaning is obvious, even if you don't have a dictionary.

Obvious as distinct from, say, inaccurate.
4.19.2007 3:22pm
Kovarsky (mail):
O, and Roger, you might consider checking that dictionary yourself. "Abortionist" is a slang term, usually used by those deriding of the physicians that perform abortions.
4.19.2007 3:28pm
ReaderY:
One can certainly imagine Stevens, Gibsburg, Breyer, and Souter willing to jerrymand a set of distinctions so that this act becomes a commerce clause violation but FACE (Federal Access to Clinic Entrances Act) magically passes Commerce muster. Question is, could they get Thomas to go along with such a gerrymander?
4.19.2007 5:07pm
Roger Schlafly (www):
Kovarsky, I checked 5 major dictionaries, and all list the word abortionist as an ordinary non-slang term. And it has been there for a century. The parties to the case are indeed abortionists. Next time that you wonder what a word means, I suggest that you consult a dictionary.
4.19.2007 9:11pm
Kovarsky (mail):
from dictionary.com:

a·bor·tion·ist /əˈbɔrʃənɪst/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[uh-bawr-shuh-nist] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a person who performs or induces abortions, esp. illegally.
2. a person who favors or advocates abortion as a right or choice that all women should have: usually intended as an offensive term.

id walk downstairs and check the oxford english, but i've read your website and i'm sure i'm talking to a wall.
4.20.2007 3:18am
Roger Schlafly (www):
Kovarsky, I am glad to see that you have now looked up the word in a dictionary, and verified that it is neither a made-up nor a slang word. You can also find it in the Merriam-Webster's, American Heritage, Encarta, Webster's 1913, and other dictionaries, as well as medical and legal dictionaries.

As for the Dictionary.com definition, I was using the word in the sense of definition 1. I was referring to those parties to the case who actually perform abortions, and not those who merely advocate abortion rights.
4.21.2007 1:31pm