The Volokh Conspiracy

Why All This Lateral Hiring By Elite Schools?
Einer asks the question, why are the elite schools doing more lateral hiring now, especially of younger professors, than they used to? One possible explanation rests on two factual assumptions. First, that the credentials typically relied upon by elite schools for entry level appointments--e.g. elite law school diploma, stellar grades, law review, Supreme Court clerkship, job with top law firm--simply did not reliably enough produce superstar legal scholars. Second, that the unwillingness of elite law schools to deny tenure to anyone who was able to publish one or two massive "tenure pieces" prevented elite law schools from weeding out the nonproducers. As a result, elite law schools were stuck for life with lots of former-superstar law students who underperformed as legal scholars. The solution to this situation has been obvious for some time: let other law schools assume the risks of entry level hiring, while the elite law schools skim the cream by hiring laterally those who prove themselves to be great scholars. In other words, if the elite law schools could not use the probationary period of pre-tenure to weed out those who were not going to be successful, then it is prudent to let other schools take the chances.

The problem with implementing this strategy was that, to become a great scholar, one had to say something in print--usually a sustained something--and that something was likely to annoy one or another faction of the faculty at the elite school, who would then block the appointment. Far easier it was for elite faculties to agree to to hire entry-level candidates with little or no scholarly track record but lots of "promise." This is why, in Harvard's case, Elena Kagan's deanship has been so important: she has been able to break the "collective action" logjam at the faculty level and thereby allowed Harvard to pursue its true self interest in the lateral market--as Yale, NYU and others have been doing for considerably longer. In Yale's case this began in earnest with Guido Calabresi's deanship and at NYU with John Sexton's. If the numbers of lateral appointments are increasing beyond the huge numbers of appointments made recently by Harvard, it may be because this strategy is proving over time to be successful for the elite schools.

Undoubtedly, there is more to the story--like the fact that because more and more law schools at all levels are hiring entry levels for their scholarly promise, there are more prospective lateral candidates at less prestigious schools to be cherry-picked by the elite--but this seems like at least part of it.
Mark Field (mail):

First, that the credentials typically relied upon by elite schools for entry level appointments--e.g. elite law school diploma, stellar grades, law review, Supreme Court clerkship, job with top law firm--simply did not reliably enough produce superstar legal scholars. Second, that the unwillingness of elite law schools to deny tenure to anyone who was able to publish one or two massive "tenure pieces" prevented elite law schools from weeding out the nonproducers. As a result, elite law schools were stuck for life with lots of former-superstar law students who underperformed as legal scholars. The solution to this situation has been obvious for some time: let other law schools assume the risks of entry level hiring, while the elite law schools skim the cream by hiring laterally those who prove themselves to be great scholars. In other words, if the elite law schools could not use the probationary period of pre-tenure to weed out those who were not going to be successful, then it is prudent to let other schools take the chances.


This logic seems very persuasive to me. I've often thought that the same reasoning should apply to law firms, yet they continue to pay substantial salaries to first year lawyers and rarely hire associates or even contract partners laterally. I wonder what institutional considerations prevent them from following your logic.
5.24.2007 12:39pm
Anderson (mail) (www):
The solution to this situation has been obvious for some time: let other law schools assume the risks of entry level hiring, while the elite law schools skim the cream by hiring laterally those who prove themselves to be great scholars.

Think of the "other" law schools as "the minors."
5.24.2007 12:44pm
anonVCfan:
Mr. Field, the most obvious difference is the "Second" point above. Most law firms are perfectly comfortable denying partnership to 90+% of the associates who come through the door, and indeed actively encourage many to leave before the time comes to make the decision.

Another is that high first-year salaries are a drop in the bucket in terms of a firm's overall costs, compared to the cost to a school of having an unproductive tenured faculty member.
5.24.2007 12:46pm
Anderson (mail) (www):
I've often thought that the same reasoning should apply to law firms

The problem that occurred to me, FWIW, is, how do you find out that some other firm's lawyer is a good prospect? "When he's on the other side &causes you to lose a case," was my first answer. Seems like a costly way to evaluate talent.
5.24.2007 1:26pm
PersonFromPorlock:
I'm sure that Great Minds would never fall prey to the grass's being greener....
5.24.2007 2:10pm
Mark Field (mail):

Mr. Field, the most obvious difference is the "Second" point above. Most law firms are perfectly comfortable denying partnership to 90+% of the associates who come through the door, and indeed actively encourage many to leave before the time comes to make the decision.


True enough. However, large firms still need non-partners with experience to handle the mid-level or even management of cases. It would seem to make more sense for them to use other firms as "minor leagues" and hire contract partners rather than to incur whatever training expenses they have now to get a few fifth year associates to fill the same role. All the more so if we assume they eventually get rid of most of their associates anyway. My guess is that they could hire some pretty decent contract partners for not much more than they pay first year associates and they wouldn't need to write off any time.


The problem that occurred to me, FWIW, is, how do you find out that some other firm's lawyer is a good prospect? "When he's on the other side &causes you to lose a case," was my first answer. Seems like a costly way to evaluate talent.


Yeah, that occurred to me too. On the other hand, the problem of identifying real lawyers out of law school graduates seems to be even greater.

Obviously, all this depends on how much the firms would have to pay for, say, a good 10 year lawyer with no real business. I'm guessing it's not all that much.
5.24.2007 2:12pm
a bean:
Better schools tend to skew their pay structures in favor of full professors. Less prestigious schools pay junior faculty better. Its economically efficient to start a lesser school (for more pay) with the intention of making a lateral move to an elite school (for more pay).
5.24.2007 2:15pm
lawyer (mail):
That explanation makes sense. As for law firms, it's very hard to spot and evaluate associate talent at other firms, whereas it's somewhat easier to spot partner talent. And there is plenty of lateral hiring at the partner level.
5.24.2007 2:49pm
OrinKerr:
Better schools tend to skew their pay structures in favor of full professors. Less prestigious schools pay junior faculty better. Its economically efficient to start a lesser school (for more pay) with the intention of making a lateral move to an elite school (for more pay).

Bean, I think you have it exactly backwards. As a general rule, top law schools pay junior faculty better than do lower-ranked law schools. Further, lower ranked law schools will often pay a "star" lateral much more than a top school will pay the same person. Thus, if your goal is to make as much money as possible through your salary, the smart move would be to start at a top school and then make a lateral move to a lower-ranked school. (Actually, the really smart move is to pick a specialty that allows for lots of paid consulting, but that's another matter.) Of course, that assumes that your goal is to make as much money as possible, which is usually not what law profs are looking to do.
5.24.2007 3:01pm
blackdoggerel (mail):
As a result, elite law schools were stuck for life with lots of former-superstar law students who underperformed as legal scholars.

This statement, and the reasoning in the rest of the paragraph premised upon it, is dead-on. Certain Harvard Law School professors will admit, off the record, that because the school's lateral hiring suffered greatly for about 10 years (due to infighting and politicking), it was forced to give tenure to younger profs whose academic credentials and single "tenure piece" never translated into impressive subsequent scholarship -- profs the school is now stuck with. And they'll tell you that only with the uptick in lateral hires (starting slowly under Clark, and increasing dramatically under Kagan) has HLS returned to a position of being able safely to say that its faculty comprises superstars of academia across the board.
5.24.2007 3:18pm
Edward A. Hoffman (mail):
Another factor is that both Harvard and Columbia are substantially expanding their law faculties, and neither seems interested in doing so primarily via junior hires. New slots at these two schools are filled by professors who leave other schools, creating additional vacancies which must also be filled.

This ripple effect means that, for each new position at HLS and CLS, several senior people at several different law schools will move. HLS and CLS are creating at least 40 new senior positions between them, and if each causes just three moves then that means 120 lateral hires that would not have occurred without the expansions.

I don't know about Harvard, but Columbia's hiring spree is likely to go on for several years. CLS is about to add a new floor of faculty offices to its main building, and will probably gain several floors in a building it now shares with the business school when the B-school moves a few years down the road.

If my explanation is correct then the number of laterals should return to normal after all the new slots at Columbia and Harvard are filled -- unless other top law schools follow suit and expand their own faculties.
5.24.2007 4:05pm
Just Another Law Prof:
Blackdoggerel says:

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And [Harvard proessors will] tell you that only with the uptick in lateral hires (starting slowly under Clark, and increasing dramatically under Kagan) has HLS returned to a position of being able safely to say that its faculty comprises superstars of academia across the board.

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Well, they can say that safely, but they can't say that accurately. Person for person, the Harvard faculty is still pretty weak. It's not as bad as it was 5-10 years ago, when it was sort of an open joke. But it's only maybe in the top 5 on a person-for-person basis. Better quality faculties would include Yale, NYU, Chicago, &Stanford. Plus, a bunch of Harvard's recent hires have been mediocre.

That's part of the irony with Elhauge's blogging about the new Harvard entry-level standards: Harvard has hired a bunch of people that are not very good, and that are very likely to prove themselves duds. So sure, Harvard will hire like that for a while. It will be the new big thing, and the Harvard faculty will feel very good about it. But eventually they'll see it's not working for them, and in another 10 years they'll pick a different approach.
5.24.2007 4:11pm
historian:
FWIW, Harvard and other elite schools have pursued this strategy
in other academic fields for many years. They hire young asst.
professors who have little if any real chance at tenure, and then
build their core superstar faculty by poaching the rising stars from
the bush league schools.

For the record, Harvard has not awarded tenure to a US Historian
since 1959. Every other tenured prof. has been brought in from
outside. They have famously denied tenure to Alan Brinkley (an
award winning historian and good teacher who is now provost
at Columbia) and Patricia Limerick (a MacArthur "genius" recipient).

I don't know how it is in law schools, which I suspect are different,
but this so-called "star system," whereby faculties are expanded via
lateral hiring and the core of the teaching is done by non-tenured
faculty and adjuncts, is leading to a sorry situation in which most
students never get an opportunity to learn from the same faculty
about which the admissions office brags so much. That is, bringing
in these superstars is solely for the purpose of having big names,
not for the purpose of having great teachers, which is what the
students at these schools deserve and for which they are paying a
hefty sum. Of course, that's a much wider problem, but the lateral
hire issue contributes its fair share to it.
5.24.2007 5:23pm
blackdoggerel (mail):
historian: The Harvard FAS tenure system is undoubtedly a joke, the history department being a shining example. But except for the rarely-exercised power of the University President to veto tenure selections by an individual school's faculty, each Harvard school acts very independently in its approach to tenure and hiring. So comparing FAS to the Law School is mostly apples and oranges. (And, indeed, while the tendency to hire away superstars at the expense of granting tenure to assistant professors is an affliction common to most elite, rich schools, it's actually the opposite of the approach HLS took in the 1980s/1990s -- when, by necessity, it had to promote younger profs from within, since it couldn't attract laterals.)
5.24.2007 5:43pm
Brian G (mail) (www):
Most of the Harvard/Law Clerk to Judge Schmoe, etc. professors I had really sucked. I learned a lot more from adjuncts who were actually out litigating and winning and losing cases. Most of the Harvard law grads were race and gender based grievance mongers who could talk for weeks about 42 U.S.C. 1983 but never could actually litigate a 1983 claim, let alone actually win one.
5.24.2007 11:12pm