The Volokh Conspiracy

Defraud the UN and Still Get Paid:

Kamil Idris, Secretary-General of the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO), apparently falsified his age and experience to advance his career. As a consequence, he will leave his UN post a year early, but he will still receive one more year of his $300K+ salary and a full pension, according to this report (see also here).

Dave N (mail):
I am glad that my tax dollars (to the extent we subsidize the United Nations) are so hard at work.
12.7.2007 7:55pm
NattyB:
yah Dave,

that $.000001 that you contributed to Kamil Idris, boy what a drain.

So he tried saying he was 10 years younger . . . so what?
12.7.2007 7:58pm
Smokey:
The UN has consistently refused to allow any independent audit of how our money is being spent. It has over 100,000 nameless, faceless and anti-American kleptocrats on its payroll, and they constantly scheme to defraud U.S. taxpayers.

It is astounding that even in the current run-up to the next election, no candidate discusses, questions, or even seems to be aware of the $billions we foolishly shovel into this hate filled organization year after year after year.

Kofi Annan's oft-repeated demand was for a "World Tax" - aimed squarely at the U.S. - amounting to .7% of our GDP. And that's just for starters. Annan's successor, Ban Ki Moon, has now dropped the "World Tax" label, and replaced it with the more warm and fuzzy name, "Millenium Development Goals." But it's the same thing: a ~$300 billion annual tax on American workers, to be paid into the opaque and unaccountable UN every year.

And now they're partying hearty in Bali, scheming over the best way to make American taxpayers open their wallets wide. The current extortion seems to be centered around the globaloney warming issue.

Sooner or later, we're gonna have to have this discussion on a national level.
12.7.2007 8:14pm
Brian G (mail) (www):
Natty B,

That attitude is why the U.N. is a corrupt, decadent, worthless talk shop who couldn't save a cat from a tree unless the cat was near a 5-star hotel with catered meals.
12.7.2007 8:37pm
Grover Gardner (mail):
Gee--defraud the American public of billions...and still get paid! Outrageous! Somebody do something--quick!!
12.7.2007 10:33pm
Mark H.:
Eh, unfortunately, the only way we'll get rid of the UN is the same way the League of Nations fell -- complete, and catastrophic failure of mission.

That's already happened at the UN, but the blood hasn't flowed in sufficient pints yet.
12.7.2007 11:10pm
Wolfowitz (mail):
What a piker. His mistress wasn't on the payroll too?
12.7.2007 11:26pm
Gaius Marius:
Given his displayed attitude and apparent lack of ethics, I wouldn't be surprised if NattyB has cheated his way through high school, college, and cheated his employer and clients/customers.
12.8.2007 7:47am
Jon Rowe (mail) (www):
I have an LL.M. in International Law. I've just got to get in on that racket (the UN).
12.8.2007 10:11am
Hewart:
From what I gather, former leaders of demonstrably corrupt US corporations walk away with a lot more money than this, and these companies benefit from tax subsidies and tax-funded contracts to an enormous extent, as well.

Just an observation that probably the same umbrage shown in this thread to the UN could be shown toward many US corporations.
12.8.2007 11:15am
Jon Rowe (mail) (www):
Hewart:

You'll have a valid point when I can sell my stock in the UN.
12.8.2007 11:16am
NattyB:
Yah,

Oh the decadent UN, the same UN which has a dilapidated HQ filled with Asbestos, and with no purposeful sense of irony, is also a fire hazard.

And defrauding the American people out of billions? Did someone really post that?

I'll save my outrage for real scandals:


Please people, some of you guys sound like the Jesse Helms/Black Helicopters/World Police Paranoid Clique from the early 90's.

Sure, the UN is not perfect, and it does at time, act as a forum to air complaints against the US - hence, I can get why some of you guys see it as "Anti-American".

But the funding we provide, does result in some sort return on our investment. Certainly more so than any of our spending in Iraq. We have influence over the UN. And it's not like it has ever stopped us from doing what we want to do anyway. See Iraq War over UN objections. Or our people on this blog upset, b/c the World Community, and thus reflected in the UN, was against our invasion of Iraq?

But the criticisms on this blog about the UN, pretty much hold true, for any institution of it's size. I don't see what makes the UN so despicable.

And as for Wolfowitz's comment "What a piker. His mistress wasn't on the payroll too?" I think you were referring to Rudy Guiliani
12.8.2007 11:26am
NattyB:
(forgive me, I didn't properly format my links in my last post)

Yah,

Oh the decadent UN, the same UN which has a dilapidated HQ filled with Asbestos, and with no purposeful sense of irony, is also a fire hazard.

And defrauding the American people out of billions? Did someone really post that?

I'll save my outrage for real scandals:


Please people, some of you guys sound like the Jesse Helms/Black Helicopters/World Police Paranoid Clique from the early 90's.

Sure, the UN is not perfect, and it does at time, act as a forum to air complaints against the US - hence, I can get why some of you guys see it as "Anti-American".

But the funding we provide, does result in some sort return on our investment. Certainly more so than any of our spending in Iraq. We have influence over the UN. And it's not like it has ever stopped us from doing what we want to do anyway. See Iraq War over UN objections. Or our people on this blog upset, b/c the World Community, and thus reflected in the UN, was against our invasion of Iraq?

But the criticisms on this blog about the UN, pretty much hold true, for any institution of it's size. I don't see what makes the UN so despicable.

And as for Wolfowitz's comment "What a piker. His mistress wasn't on the payroll too?" I think you were referring to Rudy Guiliani
12.8.2007 11:31am
Grover Gardner (mail):
Yes I posted "defraud the American public of millions and get paid." But I wasn't referring to the UN. Perhaps I wasn't ironic enough. I'll be clearer. We bitch about the UN while American CEOs make millions for losing billions. Clear enough?
12.8.2007 1:21pm
A. Zarkov (mail):
NattyB

“So he tried saying he was 10 years younger . . . so what?”

He didn’t falsify his age merely out of vanity, but to gain a position that required 10 years of professional experience. That’s more than a “so what” transgression of the rules. His fraud also raises the question: what else has he done?

A lot of people look to the UN as something that will take us down the path towards a one-world government and other utopias. I think this explains the forgiveness so many people express for the UN. It’s time we put the UN on a contributory basis. If you like the UN and what it does then support it with your own money, not mine.
12.8.2007 2:37pm
A. Zarkov (mail):
NattyB:

“Please people, some of you guys sound like the Jesse Helms/Black Helicopters/World Police Paranoid Clique from the early 90's.”

It has nothing to do with conspiracies. I just think the UN is an ineffectual organization. It doesn’t keep the peace. It has also perpetrated one of the great hoaxes of our time: African AIDS. When one drills down to find out how they come up with the AIDS prevalence statistics, you find the whole thing rests on very dubious methods. This acts to the detriment of the Africans who have a much bigger problem with malaria than AIDS. This hoax diverts funding away from where it’s really needed. There are real consequences to having a corrupt organization run programs.
12.8.2007 2:58pm
Houston Lawyer:
It would actually be a boon to world peace if the UN Building were burned to the ground and all of its employees imprisoned for life. In understand why kleptocrats like the place. Others must like it for the hate spewed out so liberally there.
12.8.2007 4:39pm
Smokey:
Grover says:
"We bitch about the UN while American CEOs make millions for losing billions. Clear enough?"
Let me help you out here, Grover. [And please try to get over your envy. If you have an objection to CEO pay, you can simply sell your stock.] Let's hear from former UN Ambassador John Bolton, who knows more about the UN than anyone around...
"...the biggest problem in the UN that the U.S. faces is that there is a disjunction between the voting power that the United States has and its contribution level. And this is not voting in the Security Council, this is voting in the General Assembly, where budgets and programs for the organization are approved. We’re one of 192 countries, that means we have one-half of 1% (0.5%) of the voting power of the UN. Yet because of the system of assessed contributions at the UN, we contribute 22% of the budget—or 27%, in the case of peacekeeping. So quick math will tell you that our contributions are 44 times greater than our voting power.

"Looked at another way, with 192 countries in the UN, 97 constitute a majority. If you add the assessed contributions of the lowest 97 members—that is to say that could constitute a majority if you did a vote—we pay 22%, Japan pays 19%, and then it goes down, in percentage shares, to the lowest contributor of the regular budget contributes 0.001%.

"If you start with the lowest [contributors], and build up until you finally get to 97, the aggregate assessed contribution of the lowest 97 is 0.289%. Which means we pay roughly 66 times more than a majority of the General Assembly—and I can do all kinds of calculations like that. But what it says is: it’s fun to spend other people’s money. It’s especially fun to spend our money. And we simply don’t have the sway within the organization that you would expect from a country that contributes 22%." [source]
And check out how our taxpayers' $$$$$ is being stolen here. And here. And, of course, here.

Don't forget the Oil-4-Food bribery scandal, too. Nearly $20 billion paid out in funds never accounted for. IOW: bribes. And the UN still absolutely refuses to allow any kind of independent accounting of how they spend our money. [Just try to get the names & salaries of the UN's 100,000+ theftocrats. Good luck with that.]

Whenever an organization outside the control of the U.S. gov't feels entitled to our tax money, and also thinks that they have the right to take those monies witout any accounting, then in short order it becomes outright theft.

We would do much better off by booting the UN, stopping all payments, and pay those countries that support the U.S. As it is, we're paying countries that absolutely hate the U.S. That's pretty much the definition of insanity. It's time to stop rewarding our enemies, and support only those countries that support the U.S.A. After all, there are only a handful of those.
12.8.2007 5:11pm
Grover Gardner (mail):
"If you have an objection to CEO pay, you can simply sell your stock."

Of course! How stupid of me! Would that be before, or after, the announcement of a billion-dollar write-off and a 75% drop in the value of my investment? Am I entitled to an "exit package" for having played and lost?
12.8.2007 8:22pm
Smokey:
Am I entitled to an "exit package" for having played and lost?
Only if you're facing foreclosure!

[BTW - this is a U.N. thread, not a stock thread. But you already knew that, right?]
12.8.2007 8:27pm
Grover Gardner (mail):
"BTW - this is a U.N. thread, not a stock thread."

I'm so sorry. I thought the title said "Defraud the US and Still Get Paid."
12.8.2007 8:58pm
Brian G (mail) (www):
Again, like I said, that this type of corruption is excused by pointing to other bad behavior is why the U.N. will continue to be a unrivaled front for crime and a silly excuse for giving legitimacy to the despots of the world.

As a side note, I never understood why I had to respect a bunch of bums who did nothing to help their own countries, Kofi Annan and Boutros Boutros-Ghali, tell us how we are supposed to act. Perhaps Kofi should go back and fix Ghana and BBG should clean up Egypt before telling us what to do.
12.8.2007 9:45pm
A. Zarkov (mail):
Can anyone provide an example where the UN has been effective at preventing war or violence? It has been utterly ineffective in the Middle East; witness their failure in Lebanon. They failed in Serbia, Rwanda, Second Congo War (5 million dead), Mogadishu and Darfur. The UN was founded to prevent and mitigate conflicts leading to a world free of War. After 60 years one can reasonably conclude that the UN has failed to achieve its stated primary mission. Yet the US continues to pour money into a failed organization. It’s something of a mystery as why it continues to do this. I suppose every administration simply lacks the courage to pull the plug on this monster. During the Cold War it gave the Communist Block the means to conduct espionage activities in the US. UN diplomats ignore local laws and seem to really live it up in New York City. The US does not seem to realize that it has enormous leverage over the diplomats on a personal level. If they thought they could really lose their wonderful life style in New York they would tone down their anti-American rhetoric. They might even get on the ball and do something for the world other than make speeches and go to parties.
12.8.2007 11:37pm
Adam J:
Definition of hypocrisy; Houston Lawyer simultanously advocating the burning the U.N. and imprisonment of its employees while accusing it of hate being spewed out liberally.
12.9.2007 2:16pm
Hewart:
Jon Rowe:
Hewart:

You'll have a valid point when I can sell my stock in the UN.

Actually, your counterargument is invalid as it completely misses the substance of my comparison.

You do not have the option of paying taxes to the US government. Those taxes support corrupt UN officials, just as they support, via subsidies and government contracts, corrupt US corporations and their officers.

That is the case regardless of whether you hold, buy or sell stock in the corporations in question. So the voluntary nature of owning stock in a corrupt US corporation is quite irrelevant to my point. Namely, that your tax dollars are being used to support demonstrably corrupt US corporations that give huge CEO payoffs, many times that of the UN official in question.
12.9.2007 10:21pm
TokyoTom (mail):
Jon, thanks for this reminder that we always need to pay attention lest we be fleeced by thieves of one sort or another.

Experience, knowledge of human nature and insitutional failures tell us that theft, waste of resources and other forms of personal aggrandizement at the expense of the public interest/stakeholders are problems that we will always have to struggle with, from the UN, to our own federal, state and local governments, business enterprises and even voluntary community organizations and families - part of the constant struggle to make sure organizational assets are not treated as commons by those with access and opportunity (as Yandle has noted).
12.10.2007 10:21pm
TokyoTom (mail):
Oops - I wanted to add: And now, enough surfing on my employer's dime and back to work!
12.10.2007 10:22pm