In the Mail:
The Wire, the Complete Fourth Season. Sure, it's old news to readers who have HBO; but for some of us, it's an event.
Oren:
It was a damn good season too.
12.12.2007 2:37am
rlb:
Is the show just not shot in widescreen?
12.12.2007 2:39am
Thorley Winston (mail) (www):
I just got the email that Season 3 of Lost (the best so far) is coming from Amazon. Looking forward to rewatching it over Christmas with the family and getting them caught up.

Re: the Wire, without going into any spoilers, while I appreciate the gritty near-realism of the show, the four corner kids were one of the most depressing metaphors in the series to date. I did like the twist how none of them ended up where they seemed to be going in the first couple of episodes but it’s depressing how the writers will make you sympathize with a Street character, give him a brief moment where it looks like he might redeem himself and it’s too late. :(

Any predictions for Season 5 – other than killing off a principal character (or two or three) in the final season?
12.12.2007 4:38am
Nate F (www):
Not that this is a particularly wild prediction but I would guess Omar probably dies. He would either need to die or leave town for good for the show to maintain any kind of realism after what happened last season, and the latter doesn't seem like something they would do.
12.12.2007 7:44am
AdamL:
I just got done watching season 4 and loved every second of every episode. One question about the show: Why does every segment of the criminal justice system get a somewhat realistic representation except criminal defense lawyers? The only criminal defense lawyer seems to represent every character, is dishonest, disregards the rules of ethics, and is Jewish (or at least has the last name Levy). That seems like such a caricature and more so of one than any of the other groups represented on The Wire. Am I way off base or is this an unfair representation of criminal defense lawyers compared to the representation of all other groups portrayed on the show?
12.12.2007 8:38am
Michael Masinter (mail):
Unlike, say, Law and Order, The Wire doesn't portray the defense bar generally; it portrays Maurice Levy, one defense attorney on retainer to an organized criminal enterprise; I wouldn't generalize from that data point. In any event, Levy is far more effective than the endless parade of incompetent defense lawyers on Law and Order.
12.12.2007 9:42am
Steve Hammond:
If you haven't seen the prequels on Amazon (go to the link Owen posted and look at the bottom), you have to see them. Prop Joe in junior high is great
12.12.2007 9:43am
fffff:
it portrays Maurice Levy, one defense attorney on retainer to an organized criminal enterprise.

I'd endorse that view: Levy is not an ordinary defense lawyer, he's effectively what everybody thinks of as a mob lawyer who facilitates the activities of Barksdale/Bell's continuing criminal enterprise. Maybe I'm forgetting something, but there's not really many other criminal defense attorneys portrayed by the series.

Actually, I'd go the other way on Levy. How long could an attorney realistically expect to work that way without picking up a RICO indictment? Or even civil forfeiture of the fees he receives from the Barksdale/Bell people? (Both anyone start, yes, my question absolutely leads to an interest in and experience with the exciting career opportunities in the world of drug lawyering.) It seems like Levy operates with more impunity than he would have in real life.
12.12.2007 10:21am
JosephSlater (mail):
I'll just add that I think "The Wire" has been the best thing on TV for the last few years. Season 4 was great, although as a labor law guy, I have a soft spot for Season 2.

And Steve Hammond, thanks for the suggestion, I'm going to check it out.
12.12.2007 10:44am
uh clem (mail):
"The Wire" is in the queue, but I'm still working my way through "The Sopranos" (currently halfway through season 4)

Yeah, I know I'm hopelessly behind, but I figure it's just TV, so what's the hurry? I may even rent an episode of Seinfeld eventually to see what all the fuss was about.
12.12.2007 11:49am
BDK:
I would have agreed that The Wire is the best thing on TV in about a decade. But then I saw Deadwood.

Unlike The Wire, it did take me a couple of episodes to get Deadwood, but after that it was all over. While The Wire is the best of everything else, I really feel Deadwood is on its own plane.

The Wire is a great, gritty, thinking-persons cop show, but there is something about Deadwood that sets it apart. Maybe someone else can put their finger on it. Milch's existentialism? The language aspect of it?
12.12.2007 12:20pm
Michael Masinter (mail):
>I'd endorse that view: Levy is not an ordinary defense lawyer, he's effectively what everybody thinks of as a mob lawyer who facilitates the activities of Barksdale/Bell's continuing criminal enterprise.
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>Actually, I'd go the other way on Levy. How long could an attorney realistically expect to work that way without picking up a RICO indictment? Or even civil forfeiture of the fees he receives from the Barksdale/Bell people?

In defense of the show's realism, remember that Levy's clients, and the enterprise they represent, were only the targets of state prosecutions. Defense lawyers only face a significant risk of fee forfeiture proceedings and RICO prosecutions when the U.S. Attorney's office joins the game.
12.12.2007 12:29pm
Oren:

Is the show just not shot in widescreen?


Nope, 4:3 and not even digital. Whether it was to save money or look more gritty is anyone's guess.
12.12.2007 12:35pm
Specast:
Uh Clem: get S4 of The Wire as soon as possible, because S5 begins in early January. I missed the first few episodes of S4 on HBO, then had to listen to all the raves while I waited for months and months before it was released on DVD. Put The Sopranos on hold.

I can sympathize with the mild objection that the only criminal defense attorney is pretty much a stereotypical Jewish attorney. He's also the only Jew (I think) in the whole program, so in my mind he stands out even more. Here's what I didn't like very much: all of the black politicians were corrupt, incompetent, and interested only in personal or racial advancement at the expense of the public good. Every one. Only the white politician, the mayor, stands out. Unlike his portrayal in earlier episodes (ambitious, cutthroat, unfaithful to his wife), in S4 he became virtuous almost to a fault. Seriously, what other Wire character is that good through and through? The Wire gets and deserves great praise for its realistic portrayal of life in Baltimore, but the white mayor is the one exception, and is in sharp contrast to the black public servants. What's up with that?

I have other similar objections to The Wire, but that hasn't stopped me from enjoying it.
12.12.2007 12:43pm
fffff:
Defense lawyers only face a significant risk of fee forfeiture proceedings and RICO prosecutions when the U.S. Attorney's office joins the game.


But why should this be so? Maryland certainly has its own forfeiture laws.
12.12.2007 12:58pm
C Miller (mail) (www):
I'll disagree with the characterization of Carcetti as virtuous to a fault in Season 4. Sure, they build him up throughout the season, but that is only to accentuate the rug pulling that takes place in the last episode.

*Spoilers*

In other words, we expect him to do the "right thing" (according to his wife) and take the money for the schools, but instead let's the her, the audience, and Norman Wilson (note the bar scene at the end) down by rejecting it with an eye toward becoming Governor in 2 years.
12.12.2007 12:59pm
uh clem (mail):
get S4 of The Wire as soon as possible, because S5 begins in early January.

Shouldn't I watch the S1, S2 &S3 first? Thus far I've been insulated enough that I haven't come across any spoilers - about all I know about The Wire is that I've heard good reviews from several people whose opinions I respect, and HBO has a track record of making TV that's worth the time it takes to watch. I'll watch it in good time.
12.12.2007 1:08pm
Specast:
Uh clem: you are right. I'd assumed you'd watched the first 3 seasons.

C Miller: The choice between accepting and rejecting the money is a far more balanced one than you're giving it credit; the money comes only if the mayor cedes control of Baltimore schools to the state (and suffers the resulting local outrage). In any case, if choosing -- after tortured consideration -- to reject the state's money is his only visible fault, that kinda makes my point, no?
12.12.2007 2:10pm
U.Va. 3L:
uh clem--

You probably should watch the first three seasons before season 4. Season 4 will make sense on its own, but there are a lot of things that someone who hasn't seen the rest of the series might perceive as plot holes, since the narrative references earlier events.
12.12.2007 2:12pm
Michael Masinter (mail):
>>But why should this be so? Maryland certainly has its own forfeiture laws.

The Maryland statute is much narrower than the Comprehensive Crime Control Act under which U.S. Attorneys can bring forfeiture proceedings to seize fees paid to defense lawyers. Maryland law only applies to money found in close proximity to drugs and forfeitable records. By contrast, the CCC exposes to forfeiture as derivative contraband money previously paid as fees to defense lawyers who represent clients later convicted of drug offenses.

Local police departments and prosecutors lack the resources and sometimes the independence to build the kind of complex case required to prosecute the occasional lawyer who joins the game; they are much better at catching lawyers who use drugs than at catching lawyers who facilitate criminal enterprises.

Don't forget that The Wire's Levy is a rare bird; most defense lawyers are honorable men and women who would never become part of the game. There are plenty of fine ethical lawyers who still defend federal drug cases in Miami.
12.12.2007 3:13pm
Humble Law Student (mail):
Ehh, people can skip Season 3, I found it pretty boring. But the other seasons are great!
12.12.2007 5:40pm
C Miller (mail) (www):
* Spoilers *

Specast, I admit that it was a complicated issue, but it seemed to me that Carcetti rejected the money mainly with an eye toward being governor. I know that his advisors raised the concerns you mentioned, but it seemed to me that he rejected the money mainly to save face. In fact, doesn't he say specifically that the reason he rejected the money was because the governor wanted to give it to him at a dog and pony show in front of the press? And while I know that the writers don't talk through any specific character, I think that the scene in the bar about "always letting you down" seemed to be the writers making their point pretty clearly.
12.12.2007 6:10pm
fffff:
Maryland law only applies to money found in close proximity to drugs and forfeitable records.

Am I misreading Md. Code § 12-102(a)? "The following are subject to forfeiture: . . 11) all proceeds traceable to the exchange . . used, or intended to be used, to facilitate any violation of the Controlled Dangerous Substances law." The link to the actual statute text is in my post above.
12.12.2007 6:23pm
gustav (mail):
(1) Humble Law Student writes that he or she found Season 3 boring. I completely disagree. I would contend that Season 3 is the best season so far (and Seasons 1 &4 were fantastic).

(2) On Levy, David Simon, who is himself Jewish, has said that Levy is a composite of several real people. Regarding Levy's Jewishness:

“If I have people from every other tribe in Baltimore portrayed negatively, everyone is maligned in some way, how can I not do that to the Jewish guy? How can I pull that punch? At that point I’m just being hypercritical. Here are good people from my own tribe who say how can you do that, and my answer is how can I not?”

(3) I agree with BDK that Deadwood is phenomenal. I'm not sure if I'd say that Deadwood is superior to the Wire, though. Deadwood explores some fascinating subjects--how is order established in the absence of law?--but I'm continually floored by the aching tragedy (and realism) of the Wire.
12.12.2007 8:46pm
HHC (mail):
*Spoilers


While it's true that many of the politicians are corrupt, and many of them black, there are certainly several that seem decent. Tony Gray? Delegate Watkins? Marla Daniels? Carcetti's aide Norman?

I'd also agree that Carcetti isn't flawless. He has a period in season 4 where he seems like he has his life together - but will it last? Compare him to McNulty, who is also experiencing a period of redemption. Or to Bubbles, who looked like he had his life more or less together at the end of Season 3.

Remember Daniels' advice to Carver? You have to decide if it's about making rank, or doing the job. Carcetti rejected the money because, ultimately, he wanted a run at governor more than he wanted to fix the schools. Sure - he cares. Sure - he'd do his best as governor to get things done. But when push comes to shove, his ambition matters more to him than his ideals.
12.13.2007 9:48pm