George R.R. Martin on Law and Fantasy Literature:
Lawprof Dave Hoffman has an interesting interview with fantasy writer George R.R. Martin on the role of law in fantasy literature. Martin's "Song of Ice and Fire" series is one of the major milestones in the new trend toward grittier and more "realistic" fantasy writing.
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I agree that the books themselves are excellent; my criticism (perhaps a too subtle distinction in retrospect) of the quality of the series was that it's just not an enjoyable experience to read a great book and have to wait an unpredictable number of years for the next one to come out. GRRM has had a post up on the Ice &Fire update section of his website for almost a year now saying basically that Dance With Dragons (the second half of the split book to which hattio1 refers, I think) will be done any day now, but we're still waiting. This is particularly frustrating since we've been waiting since the end of the third book to find out what happens to Tyrion and Daenerys, and apparently the Cersei cliffhanger won't be resolved until the sixth book.
I suggest anyone who wants a gritty fantasy epic switch to Steven Erikson's Malazan -- the first book was published in 1999, and volume 8 (of 10) should be out in Britain some time next year.
Read older series, then. I well remember finishing Nine Princes in Amber, throwing the book against the wall with all possible force, and then going to the mall to buy volumes 2 through 5.
(I did have to wait as each volumen in the second Amber series came out, but in retrospect, I wish I hadn't read any of them. Zelazny's game fell off abysmally in his later years, poor man.)
If that were his plan, I would think he'd take the Jordan-esque tactic of churning out more books on a frequent basis without ever moving the plot along. I gave up on Wheel of Time after the seventh book, though in retrospect, even the earlier ones weren't that good. That doesn't seem to be Martin's problem; it seems like he just enjoys doing conventions and gaming more than actually writing.
I don't even remember what the Cersei cliffhanger is. And I've read each book at least twice. Cersei is the female twin, and sister to the little dwarf guy right? I got at least that much right?
Nice work if you can get it, eh? And he evidently can.
The notion that the author owes anyone the duty to sit down and write another sequel ASAP (which I don't attribute to Guest101 btw) seems to be common, and silly. Martin has one life to live, same as all of us, and I hope he's doing what he likes to do.
Damn,
I don't even remember what the Cersei cliffhanger is. And I've read each book at least twice. Cersei is the female twin, and sister to the little dwarf guy right? I got at least that much right?
And mother to one of the many, many rival kings (whose collective butts Daenerys can kick).
(I did have to wait as each volumen in the second Amber series came out, but in retrospect, I wish I hadn't read any of them. Zelazny's game fell off abysmally in his later years, poor man.)
Apparently Zelazny was quite ill in his later years, when the last Amber books were written, and that probably had something to do with the drop off in quality. He was probably rushing through them trying to get the series finished. I'd agree the first Amber series was much better.
Martin put out the 2nd and 3rd books after 2 year intervals. The first half of the fourth book took 5 years, and the second half (which was promised initially for 6 mos. after the first) is now at 2 years and counting. In this case, I think the slowdown comes largely from the weight of reader's expectations. He's trying so hard to live up to peoples' hopes that he's having a hard time actually writing anything. Of course, that's just my dumb pop psychology take on it.
Another modern fantasy writer who is worth reading is Robin Hobb. I started on her on Martin's recommendation (via the What I'm Reading section on his website). Her books are several cuts above the genre, and are better from a stylistic standpoint than ASOIAF. In terms of basic storytelling, and the ability to kill off anyone at any time, I give the edge to Martin.
And Hobb has some interesting property law (and quasi-admiralty law) in her Liveship books. It's not just a matter of the justice of the lord, and succession rights.
That being said, I think there are moments in the series that are brilliant and hilarious and I just wish more of that pace was sustained. Five short stories came out after the Merlin series, and they are blisteringly good - but alas those are the last by the original author.