Over at Balkinization, David Luban has an extensive post on the issues and non-issues in Padilla v. Yoo.
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Over at Balkinization, David Luban has an extensive post on the issues and non-issues in Padilla v. Yoo. Related Posts (on one page): |
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Am I wrong to be reminded of the response during the Clinton years, that because the accusations against Clinton weren't proven, there was no justification for investigating them?
If Clinton had been found lying, he might have been impeached. But if Yoo is found to have given an inaccurate opinion, then what? Or, if Padilla is found to have been sleep deprived, then what? Are official policies going to be changed? Will Yoo be run out of the government? Will he actually have to pay anything beyond his attorneys' fees? Will Padilla get off?
Incidentally, Clinton was caught lying and was impeached. Then the Senate decided not to look into it further because the indictment didn't 'prove' his guilt, which gets back to my original point.
The "Conspiracy to Commit War Crimes" count was thrown out... none of the defendants were convicted of this offense.
From the blog post in question:
although this is a tort suit and not an ethics complaint, it is worth noting that ethics standards forbid lawyers from from counseling or assisting clients in conduct the lawyer knows is illegal. Of course, John Yoo claims that he "knew" nothing of the sort, and continues to defend not only the good faith, but the legal validity of his widely-castigated opinions. How much to credit assertions of good faith would be a task for a fact-finder.)
Yeah, I think proving he argued in bad faith is going to be problematic.
Objection, inadmissible (ridiculous should also work here). It's entirely circular to argue that we shouldn't trust his allegations that he was tortured because he confessed to something while allegedly being tortured!
When did he admit that he was a "traitor"? And if he did, under what circumstances?
When was he found to be, or admitted to be, an "illegal combatant"?
The lack of outrage by people over what happened to Padilla is shocking. He is a US citizen who was detained on US soil. He was then locked up for close to 5 years without any process. These actions are obvious violations of the Constitution, and of the basic principles of a free society.
And, as many commentators here have shown, they have convinced themselves he is a traitor and combantant, who wanted to kill lots of Americans, and is generally a really bad guy -- based on nothing more than the gov't's say so. So thereofore, any form of torture is too good for him.
The trust people have in gov't is another outrage.