Jeffrey Toobin e-mails:
Hi Eugene,
I just wanted to let you know that I've been reading the posts about my discussion of Kelo in the Nine with great interest. In light of what I've learned, I suspect I'll be making some changes for the paperback. Again, feel free to post this note and let folks know I welcome any other corrections, comments, etc. Cheers, Jeff
Naturally, I'm delighted to pass this request along.
Related Posts (on one page):
- Suggested Corrections for Jeffrey Toobin's The Nine:
- Jeffrey Toobin on Kelo:
P.S. Mr. Toobin, if you're reading, I'm the guy who asked you to elaborate on your Clinton-appointing-Obama prediction at the NY Times event last weekend. With due respect, I did not find your answer very helpful; I was already aware that you had spoken to Mr. Obama about the possibility in the past and were unconvinced by his disclaimer of interest, because you've shared that anecdote a number of times in the past, but I still don't understand how Obama would remain a political rival to President Clinton if she is elected in November, or what incentive she might have to get him out of the way, as it were, by nominating him to the Court.
If it wasn't obvious to you-- as I suspect it was to the rest of us-- my "liberal hack" comment was a sarcastic reference to the way Mr. Toobin is often treated by commenters around here, cleverly juxtaposed against the fact that he proactively sought out feedback and criticism from his ideological opponents for the sake of making his own work stronger and more persuasive, which is hardly a hackish thing to do. I apologize if the subtlety was too much for you.
A yenta, however, is not a matchmaker, but rather a busybody. A matchmaker is a shadkhen. O'Connor no doubt picked up her Yiddish from Fiddler on the Roof, where the village matchmaker was named Yenta -- but that was a play on words. Of course, a shadkhen was likely to be a yenta (how else to do business?), but plenty of yentas were not matchmakers.
Good luck, Mr. Toobin. You'll need it.
Really? "Height of his physical powers?" I suppose it's possible for an individual to reach his physical peak at fifty-six, if he was sedentary for his entire young adulthood and started exercising like a fiend in later middle age. But I don't think that describes Justice Scalia. Moreover, I wonder what basis Toobin has for suggesting that Scalia reached his physical peak at such an uncommonly late age.
Nonetheless, it is unfortunate that Toobin has made such a simplistic caricture of this unique phenomenon as surrounding Kelo, and perhaps salutary that he remains interested in whether other factors were at work.
While I was far less politically mature and perceptive at the time of the Roe decision, I believe that Kelo signficantly eclipsed the benchmark that Roe set in terms of its entry into public perceptions about the court and the court's fidelity to a the publicly understood organic guarantees.
Roe, after all, pitted two very serious paradigms of individual rights against one another. Indeed, the explicitly libertarian camp, as small as it is, is split along this same divide. For partisans unconcerned with this abstract distinction, Roe may indeed have been viewed by both sides as placing government decision-making superior to their understandings of human rights in light of the human condition. But the long ranging battle over Roe never seemed to reach beyond this partisanship in terms of public opprobrium with regards to the decision itself.
Kelo, however, was clearly understood to pit government power captured by faction against individual rights. Would that public choice theory in this arena was so widely studied by the public as to mean that the concept of "government failure" was as quick to their lips as the concept of "market failure". But the truth is anything but this. High Courtiers such as Toobin, and likely those he chronicles, simply missed the extent to which the competing interests in this case were transferable into the lives and experience of the public.
No amount of repeating a message, as IJ surely did in terms of beating the drum regarding abuse of eminent domain prior to the Kelo case is going to make a generally apathetic and uninterested public become students of eminent domain.
I think by now it might have been fair use to put up pages 306-308 of The Nine. Having not read them, but taking Gideon Kanner's characterization as a starting point, I think the 'surprise' at the vitrolic public discontent with the Kelo decision would strike some -- perhaps most -- of the nine and Toobin about the same way, which is to say that the ear turned to the public has been tinned.
Perhaps he was a prisoner of the idea expressed in the prequel to this thread by Steve that:
"The reason no one expected high drama is that virtually every observer expected the decision to come out the way it did, since it was the result indicated by precedent. The fact that it ended up as a bitterly contested 5-4 decision, complete with scathing dissent, was an important part of what propelled it into the headlines."
I find this thought remarkably incomplete. The Connecticut Supreme Court had sided with the statists. One had at least to wonder, if federal precedent in this area were so settled, what the point of taking the case was. I, as many observers, felt that the court had taken the case in order to draw a line between the fungible idea of remedying blight or constructing public facilities, and economic development generally. Thus no reversal of fortune as Thomas or I might advocate with regard to Berman, but I expected the style of outcome we got, but had hoped it might be 5-4 the other way.
I attended a forum about 6 months after the decision at Brown University that had one of the principle lawyers from each side discussing the case. The auditorium that seats about 200 was overflowing with people in the aisles. You can hold a meeting of the openly libertarian and conservative students at Brown in couple phone booths -- thats up from one phone booth at the turn of the century. The several students who organized the forum were of mixed political ancestry. They did so with the assistance of one of the more libertarian-minded or classically liberal figures in the faculty, John Tomasi, but it was their idea and they did all the footwork and publicity themselves. The audience, to a man(I can't handle 'to a person', I mean this in sense of taxonomy not gender), castigated the counsel for New London. These kids were loaded for bear. Some of it was actual application of their own mental faculties -- a slight improving trend at this academy in this regard -- and some coming from the large left of center echos in opposition to Kelo's outcome.
I've been attending forums at the university for years and I've never seen anything like it. I personally felt that this case and this area of law and policy was unusual in clearly pitting statist vs. libertarian ideals, as opposed to many cases and policy questions that perceputally split along the conservative/progressive divide. But quality argumentation on agency capture crossing into areas of regulation for instance has found completely infertile ground amongst the same audience.
If there were any purportedly conservative or right-leaing bootstrapping off this case it would have been to wratchet in an understanding of the predicament posed by inverse condemnation. If you think Suzette Kelo had it tough fighting eminent domain, how ought you to feel if the government bought all the land around her and then refused to grant her access to her property and paid her nothing? Or regulated her home into effective disutility with some clever overlap of zoning, environmental and 'safety' regulations.
Sadly, in my mind, IJ went out of their way to make sure this didn't happen to somehow confuse their case. I would submit for those who are such great fans of precedent in this arena that these issues were hopelessly and properly conflated in Hawaii v. Midkiff, 467 US 229 at 240 when Justice O'Connor wrote:
"The "public use" requirement is thus coterminous with the scope of a sovereign's police powers."
If this were recognized as precedent -- and it certainly seems to me to represent a central holding of the case -- then police power defenses against inverse condemnation ought to have evaporated by now. Little wonder that there is so much effort to maintain procedural bars that make property rights second class and the clever focus on making the latest progressive pronouncements on the environment into common law nuisance arguments.
Thank you Gideon for your spirited defense of property rights. Kelo is proof that people care about them innately, but inverse condemnation remains an ink blot for most members of the public, until it bites them they don't see it right in front of them.
If it were widely understood that the same racial and class underpinnings are shot through the debates over zoning and environmental regulations, similar and healthy skepticism might emerge, e.g. Ambler v. Euclid, 297 F. 307 ,1924., N.D. Ohio, E.D., at 312:
And of course Sutherland's apologia for the Supreme Court in Euclid V. Amber, 272 US 365, that sadly commanded not the spirited explication of dissent that Kelo did although it is noted that "Mr. Justice VAN DEVANTER, Mr. Justice McREYNOLDS, and Mr. Justice BUTLER dissent":
The frankness of Westerhaven's discourse and the pretext of Sutherland's reversal provide as glaring a policy contrast as the Kelo case and I would hope that the opprobrium that happily followed the decision would broaden its aim. In the meantime, I can only hope that the proposal to take Souter's home as a memorial to lost liberty comes to fruition.