Intellectual Diversity in Academia--Discrimination v. Self-Selection:

A recurrent question regarding the dominance of left/liberal perspectives among university professors is the extent to which this lopsidedness arises from discrimation against those with non-left viewpoints that excludes them from the academy versus self-selection by conservatives and libertarians out of academia and into other professions, such as law and business.

The issue has arisen again in light of a new study by Woesner and Kelly-Woessner "Left Pipeline: Why Conservatives Don't Get Doctorates." The paper is a chapter in a forthcoming book by the American Enterprise Institute on "Reforming the Politically Correct University." The papers from the conference are available here. I've read a number of the papers posted there and they are very interesting.

The paper is also discussed on The Economist's Voice here.

There is also a story in the Chronicle of Higher Education on the study here.

Dan Klein, who has written extensively on this issue, has written up a comment on the Chronicle story that he has asked me to post on his behalf (I do so below). Dan raises one concern that I share about the study. It is difficult to sort out the self-selection from discrimination hypotheses because the decisions on what subject to study will be shaped at least in part by one's perception about the likelihood of success in a given area of study. Thus, for instance, if a scholar perceives that one occupation will subject her to discrimination that will limit her career accomplishments while another would not, then at the margin many are going to pursue the one where that is not the case. And, in fact, prior studies have found that the ideological disparity is greatest in those fields with the most subjective standards (such as English and History) and the gap is narrowest in those fields such as economics and sciences that are generally perceived as less subjective. I have also seen it asserted (although I can't find the discussion right now) that within political science itself those who do use more formal modeling and quantitative methodologies is much more equal in ideological orientation than those who use "softer" techniques.

Dan's primary point of emphasis in his comment, as I understand it, is that this data on the self-seleciton hypothesis doesn't account for his finding that among those who have already received their PhD "conservatives" are more likely to end up outside academia than liberals. So that, for instance, taking the pool of those who have already received a PhD in History, those who are conservative are less likely to hold an academic position than a similarly-situated liberal. Such disparities, Klein argues, are unlikely to reflect self-selection because those who pursue a PhD in History (for instance) have implicitly manifested an interest in being a professor, regardless of ideological orientation.

Since Dan doesn't have his own blog and in the interest of getting his argument out there for debate I reproduce his full comment on the Chronicle story. With respect to Dan's negative view of the Chronicle, I don't read it very much so I don't express any independent view on whether I agree with his opinions. I do, however, certainly share Dan's view that Inside Higher Ed is far more independent of the higher education establishment than the Chronicle and is much more insightful in its coverage. Here's Dan's comment (it is fairly long, so I've placed a good portion of it under hidden text)

Deleted at Daniel Klein's request. See explanation here.

J. F. Thomas (mail):
Also, our data suggests that conservative students, as a whole, do not feel
victimized in the liberal academy. This is not to say that they do not experience some hostility in
individual courses or among certain disciplines.


It isn't, then what does it say?

After spending a couple paragraphs discovering the shocking fact that conservative undergrads actually appear to have more fun at college than and they don't feel victimized in the mythical "liberal academy", the authors still cling to their thesis that students must still experience some unreported hostility.

Damn it, what fun is it if you refuse to act like victims!
2.22.2008 5:16pm
Sasha Volokh (mail) (www):
Maybe this is discussed in the story, which I haven't read. But here's a question about selection effects.

First, suppose it's reasonable to try to get a Ph.D. for several reasons, not just to be a professor. In economics people can use their Ph.D.s to become consultants, work in government, etc. I don't know how this is in political science, history, or other fields; maybe in those, there's no reason to get a Ph.D. except the desire to be a professor.

Second, suppose that there's some discrimination at the student-selection and degree-granting stages, but a lot of discrimination at the professor-hiring stages. This seems plausible: Some people just have great entrance exam scores and don't telegraph their conservative views in their applications, so there's a limit to how much you can discriminate against them at the admissions stage. And schools may be unable to deny a Ph.D. to a dissertation that meets certain objective standards; or they may be willing to grant a Ph.D. to get rid of a student if they think he won't try to use it to get an academic job. On the other hand, it's very easy to deny someone a faculty appointment.

If those two things are true, then if you see that conservatives with Ph.D.s are less likely to go into academia, that could still be evidence for self-selection due to perceptions of bias.
2.22.2008 5:19pm
Nelson Lund (mail):
Sasha Volokh wrote:

I don't know how this is in political science, history, or other fields; maybe in those, there's no reason to get a Ph.D. except the desire to be a professor.

I got a Ph.D. in political science because I was interested in what I was studying, rather than from "a desire to be a professor." I don't know whether this is more common among conservatives than among leftists. Or perhaps such behavior is statistically insignificant in both groups, which would make the question unimportant.
2.22.2008 5:34pm
tvk:
Nelson, aren't you kind of a bad example considering that you did, eventually, become a professor?
2.22.2008 5:39pm
Elliot Reed (mail):
And, in fact, prior studies have found that the ideological disparity is greatest in those fields with the most subjective standards (such as English and History) and the gap is narrowest in those fields such as economics and sciences that are generally perceived as less subjective.
I'm inclined to believe that there's a lot of anti-conservative discrimination (much of it in the form of a hostile environment) in academia generally, but I wonder how much this particular result supports that thesis. Aren't the disciplines with (supposedly) more subjective standards [1] also less prestigious and renumerative? So without a fairly sophisticated analysis it would be hard for that type of result to distinguish between "conservatives do better where standards are less subjective so it's harder to justify discriminating against them" and "conservatives are greedy and are generally only willing to go into prestigious fields that pay a lot."

[1] I say "supposedly" because there's a lot of subjectivity involved in determining how prestigious a particular subfield is and how meritorious or "important" a particular research result is. You won't get anywhere performing rigorous, meticulously designed experiments into subject matter your academic peers think trivial or insignificant.
2.22.2008 5:43pm
snarky (mail):
Reality has a liberal bias.

It's not fair to conservatives who must constantly test their ideology against facts. Take, for example, intelligent design. Is it discrimination that biology departments are filled with people who believe in evolution and that their conservative intelligent design counterparts are shut out?
2.22.2008 5:55pm
Benjamin P. Hayek (mail) (www):
Does anyone converse with Dr. Mark Moyar? I've exchanged emails with him about my alma mater (the University of Iowa) and believe he would have much to contribute to this topic.

http://www.triumphforsaken.com/index.php?pr=About_the_Author

I'll drop him a line to see if he might have time to comment.
2.22.2008 6:01pm
Justin (mail):
Damnit, Sasha stole my point.
2.22.2008 6:09pm
Benjamin P. Hayek (mail) (www):
snarky,

Although the intelligent design/evolution "debate" has recently reared its ugly head again lately in the media (the media absolutely love covering this), I don't I know many conservatives who believe in intelligent design. Most theists I know (conservative or classic liberal or modern liberal) don't subscribe to intelligent design because they understand that the evolution/intelligent design "debate" doesn't advance the ball much either way in the realm of things, but is rather only a weapon to wield against Biblical "literalists" (which make up a fairly small percentage of those on the "right" (or left), frankly).

Perhaps another example might better support your argument that only modern liberals possess the tools necessary to accurately grasp reality?
2.22.2008 6:17pm
A.C.:
Most of the conservatives I know just think academia is silly. It's fine to get a degree, in their minds, but they treat college like trade school. This is not so much about greed as a motivation, but more about being at home in the business world and seeing it as the normal place for people to spend their time and energy. A few are in business for the money alone, but (strange as it may seem) many actually like it. There's intellectual challenge, the chance to build something, and even an active social scene with like-minded people.

A different subculture goes looking for all those things on college campuses. Maybe more conservatives would look there if the environment were more congenial to them -- if they knew they would have chances for both professional collaboration and social life with people they liked. But, as it is, many campuses look like more trouble than they are worth. I know I see them that way, and I'm only about a millimeter and a half to the right of center.
2.22.2008 6:28pm
Clayton E. Cramer (mail) (www):
Consider what the situation might be if 10% of professors made a point of telling you that Jews were the scum of the Earth, evil, and stupid, and the other 90% of professors were cowed into silence for fear of being called crypto-Jews. Would you be surprised if Jews disproportionately didn't pursue PhDs?

That's pretty much the situation in academia today. Snarky's remarks above are, in my experience, quite typical of a a small but very loud faction of the academy. You do eventually figure out that you are wasting your time pursuing a PhD.

By the time I received my BA, I had two books in print, and some peer-reviewed articles published. And yet when there was an effort by one of my professors (who was, indeedd, Old Left) to get "with distinction" added to my diploma, there was apparently some tongue wagging by other faculty members about this because one of those books was a scholarly history of weapons regulation that didn't take the PC position.

Fortunately, much of the faculty there were fossils--enough Old Left that they still regarded the pursuit of truth in history as a legitimate goal, and it didn't prevent me from completing an MA. But the one thing that is very clear is that the Vietnam generation of academia is completely and utterly trapped in a deconstructionist model where there is no objective truth, and therefore, history can be rewritten to suit whatever today's political needs might be.
2.22.2008 6:32pm
Nelson Lund (mail):
tvk wrote:

Nelson, aren't you kind of a bad example considering that you did, eventually, become a professor?


Maybe. But it wasn't my motivation in grad school, and I confirmed that I didn't want to work as an academic in political science after trying it for a year. It's true that I eventually became a law professor, but that was about the furthest thing from my mind when I went to law school. All of which may just suggest that I'm not a good example of anything at all except maybe irresponsible career planning. But it's at least conceivable that this could be a statistically significant phenomenon.
2.22.2008 6:34pm
frankcross (mail):
Pretty absurd, Clayton, on the claim that 90% of professors are "cowed" into silence. I've taken plenty of relatively conservative positions in my day and never been called a crypto-anything.
2.22.2008 6:51pm
Randy R. (mail):
Well, isn't the whole Law and Economics movement considered conservative? Seems to me that if an idea is actually original and has some meat to it, regardless of whether one agrees or disagrees with it, it will somehow find itself taken seriously, even by liberals.

The vast bulk of college classes can't be very political at all. Biology? Chemistry? Electrical Engineering? Shakespeare? Computer science? French language classes?

I took many sorts of classes in college, and at a college that was considered pretty liberal. In my whole time, and I was an English major, the only overt liberal bias was when I took one class on contemporary american history. One! And even then, the professor took pains to explain both sides, both conservative and liberal, even though it was clear where his sympathies lay.
2.22.2008 7:03pm
Randy R. (mail):
Oh wait. I DO remember that I took a class on the English novel, and when we got to Dickens, we had to learn a bit about what Britain was like economically and culturally that informed Dickens and what he was trying to present. Turns out there were poor people back then! And many lived wretched lives!

So we learned the Dickens had sympathy for the poor and the orphaned and tried to call attention to this so-called 'injustice.' I guess our prof was really just a commie pinko for telling us that.
2.22.2008 7:06pm
TruePath (mail) (www):
There are a billion ways you could explain this correlation without resorting to discrimination.

The one that jumped to my mind immediatly was this one. People tend to adopt the same political views as their friends. To some extent this is self-sorting but largely it's the fact that people are influenced by their friends. Thus those people who are more succesfull in integrating into the academic community (which unfortunatelly matters a lot) will be more likely to be liberal by the time they end their Ph.D.

Also self-selection of friends matters too. If everyone in your program is really liberal so you choose to hang out with people you met from the buisness school you are going to find academia much more alienating and hard to enter than those who primarily make friends inside their fields. However, there is nothing particular to the liberal/conservative issue here. I'm suffering at much the same disadvantage because I choose friends based on how they socialized and often that means my friends aren't in mathematics.
2.22.2008 7:49pm
Hoosier:
"The vast bulk of college classes can't be very political at all. Biology? Chemistry? Electrical Engineering? Shakespeare? Computer science? French language classes? "

You're kidding, right?

The left bias in academe is very strong, and it *does* keep intellectually-inclined conservatives from going into PhD programs. I've spent my entire adult life in this business. There's no way to be certain *how many* more conservative faculty there would be sans bias. But the number would certainly be larger. And the intellectual pluralism would be a good thing for us and our students.

I just had a LONG meeting with my senior thesis student this afternoon. She recently has been accepted by a graduate program at Harvard. She is now wondering how much she will have to hide her opinions. What am I to say? That the bias in academe is a conservative fantasy, so go ahead and have your 'National Review' subscription delivered to the departmental mailbox? Not a chance: I'd like her to have a shot at the career she clearly wants.

"I'm suffering at much the same disadvantage because I choose friends based on how they socialized and often that means my friends aren't in mathematics."--Yeah, no joke!
2.22.2008 9:02pm
Zywicki (mail):
Snarky:
Your hypothesis can be tested. If you are correct, then the gap between "liberals" and "conservatives" would be LARGER in "reality-based" fields, such as sciences and engineering. In fact, available data strongly indicates exactly the opposite--ideological disparities are the smallest in the sciences and in the more quantitative social sciences and largest in the humanities and softer social sciences.
2.22.2008 10:18pm
hanmeng (mail) (www):
I've evolved from a liberal into a libertarian.

Speaking from personal experience, back when I was a liberal I had two foreign language professors who openly made conservative remarks; I found it refreshing.

Having spent my career teaching in foreign languages, I'm struck by the way people in the Liberal Arts automatically assume that their peers are also politically liberal. Although I've never seen any overt discrimination, I can certainly imagine how a prospective grad student who was not a liberal would be turned off by the environment.
2.22.2008 11:11pm
Samir Chopra (mail) (www):
Computer science departments can be quite conservative; so can philosophy departments. To be honest, I haven't seen the anti-conservative bias that people speak of, though I've never served in an English or History department (in the latter it seems to me there is a decent representation of conservatives, based on scholarship and hearsay evidence).
2.23.2008 7:50am
Ben P (mail):
In my experience the only place I noted a significant liberal bias was in the same place that many commenters have noted. The History, English, Political Science and Sociology and Anthropology departments.

My experience in the computer science and math departments was that politics simply never came up. I suppose there might have been some bias behind the scenes, but it wasn't evident to a student who was only minoring in the subject.


In the History and Political Science departments most professors were liberal, however, in my experience they also took great pains to ensure that they presented topics fairly. If a particular student made comments of a marxist nature (I'm convinced every poli-sci class has that student) the professor would often counter with the oppisite argument for the purposes of generating discussion.


Oddly enough, however, the most overtly political professor I remember from undergrad was in the Economics department, and we was undeniably Conservative/Libertarian. (Judging from articles from the Economist and Reason he posted on his bulletin board) From all acccounts he was perfectly fair in grading (everyone did bad on his tests), but he did take some pleasure in demolishing the typical liberal economic arguments.


It may be that he stood out because he was somewhat unique on an otherwise fairly liberal campus, (at a small nationally ranked liberal arts college) but neither did I see substantial institutional bias against conservatives.
2.23.2008 1:53pm
Randy R. (mail):
Hoosier: "The left bias in academe is very strong, and it *does* keep intellectually-inclined conservatives from going into PhD programs. I've spent my entire adult life in this business. "

I don't dispute that. What I am suggesting is that the effects that any liberal bias might have on the typical undergrad is minimal at best, at least in my experience. I wouldn't doubt that the history and English departments are filled with liberals, and that they would prevent any conservatives from joining their faculty.

But as a student, I would say, so what? If you can show me where it really makes a difference in say, a biology class, then go ahead. Otherwise, all this griping is about conservatives unable to get certain jobs at universities.
2.23.2008 3:05pm
Randy R. (mail):
Hoosier: "The left bias in academe is very strong, and it *does* keep intellectually-inclined conservatives from going into PhD programs. I've spent my entire adult life in this business. "

I don't dispute that. What I am suggesting is that the effects that any liberal bias might have on the typical undergrad is minimal at best, at least in my experience. I wouldn't doubt that the history and English departments are filled with liberals, and that they would prevent any conservatives from joining their faculty.

But as a student, I would say, so what? If you can show me where it really makes a difference in say, a biology class, then go ahead. Otherwise, all this griping is about conservatives unable to get certain jobs at universities.
2.23.2008 3:05pm
Randy R. (mail):
Hoosier: " She is now wondering how much she will have to hide her opinions."

I sympathize. I find it interesting, though, how similar her plight is with many other people. Try hiding your sexuality from your bosses at corporations that don't like gays, for instance. Not fun.

So you see, when the shoe is on the other foot, suddenly, it's an issue. I hope your friend doesn't think that gays should remain closeted as she now understands to a small degree what it is like to hide your identify from people.
2.23.2008 3:09pm
jasmindad:
As a computer science professor of long standing in a Ph. D-granting, research-emphasizing, large department at a major university, I can guarantee that a person's political leanings never, ever came up in any of the hiring or promotion discussions that I have been involved in for 35 years. One possible exception I can remember is that during dinner with a hiring candidate, I made some remarks against state legislatures passing laws to prevent universities from giving partner benefits and how that could hurt in getting great faculty, the candidate made clear, in a polite way, his discomfort with the so-called gay movement. I changed the subject. The candidate was very good in his area and we did indeed make an offer which he was about to accept, but his university immediately promoted him and increased his salary, so he stayed where he was. I simply don't know the leanings of most faculty, except my close friends.

I bet a similar situation obtains in almost all engineering and science departments.
2.23.2008 3:47pm
PersonFromPorlock:
I do think, judging from my exposure to 'modern' academe twenty five years ago (even then I was no poulet de Printemps), that in one respect colleges are more intellectually diverse than they used to be. It used to be pretty much of a given that professors were reasonably intelligent: today, not so much.
2.23.2008 5:36pm
Hoosier:
Randy--I don't have a clue what she thinks about gays; it has never come up. Nor is it relevant. Martin Luther King, Sr., was a horrible religious bigot. That doesn't mean that he should have been denied the right to vote or go to a public college.
2.23.2008 6:20pm
A guy:
Try to be a philosophy student who actually thinks that Kant might have had something insightful to say (rather than being an expression of historical circumstance, class etc.) and see how long you last in grad school. It's especially unpleasant if you have no interest in gender/sexuality issues, or if you loathe gratuitous use of fancy vocab.
2.24.2008 8:44am
Randy R. (mail):
Hoosier: My point wasn't a very strong one, I admit. But you stated that your friend was concerned about working in a place and was concerned about how she would hide her opinions. I said I sympathized.

My point was that with gays at many places, they have to hide not just opinions, but their entire lifestyle. If in a conservative workplace where being gay is not acceptable (as your friend is concerned that being conservative is not acceptable), then you can't bring your partner to a firm's social events, can't have a partner's photo on your desk. When asked what you did over the weekend during casual conservsation, you can't say my boyfriend and I went to the movies, or my partner and I worked in the garden. You have to be careful on every word that you say so as to not betray the fact that you are gay.

As one real life example, I have a friend who works at a Republican polling agency. If they found out he is gay, he's fired. He and his partner decided to get married, then go to Paris for the honeymoom. While there, the partner suddenly died of a heart attack.

So he has to deal with the emotions and excitement of planning a wedding, getting married, trip to Paris, death of a spouse, all within the span of one week, and then come to work and not mention a word of this to anyone and pretend that nothing interesting happened to him at all.

Pretty heavy burden, wouldn't you say? So yes, I firmly believe that no one should have to hide their true identity in any workplace. There are exceptions, of course, you can't be anti-semitic and work for a Jewish organization. and I certainly wouldn't want to hear any hate speech from a co-worker.
2.24.2008 2:40pm