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What Will Happen to California Same-Sex Marriages if California Voters Ban Same-Sex Marriages in November?

Let's say that the California Supreme Court doesn't stay its decision -- and I doubt that it would find a legal justification to do so -- but let's say that the California voters reverse that decision in November, by enacting a state constitutional amendment that reads, "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California." What might happen to same-sex marriages that took place in the months before the amendment becomes effective?

1. One option is that they may remain valid, whether because the initiative is construed as not applying to existing marriages, or because the courts conclude such an interpretation is constitutionally mandated by the Contracts Clause ("No state shall ... pass any ... Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts ....").

I highly doubt that this will happen. According to the text of the amendment, as soon as the amendment takes effect, only male-female marriages are valid or recognized. Future marriages, preexisting marriages, in-state marriages, out-of-state marriages -- all are valid and recognized only so long as they are between a man and a woman. And the Contracts Clause likely won't affect it, since it's been held not to apply to marriage contracts (see Maynard v. Hill, 125 U.S. 190 (1888); Home Bldg. & Loan Ass'n v. Blaisdell, 290 U.S. 398 (1934)), which is why statutes authorizing divorces have been allowed even as to marriages that had been entered into when divorces were not available.

Perhaps the result might be different if there is language in the initiative summary, or the supporters' arguments, that states the initiative will only apply to marriages entered into after the initiative. But I doubt the initiative's backers will make such statements in the ballot pamphlet, or that the state authorities will summarize the initiative this way.

2. Another is that pre-initiative same-sex marriages will become domestic partnerships, which under California statutes give most of the rights of marriage. The proposed initiative doesn't purport to bar such domestic partnerships, and it would make sense to treat such invalidated marriages as domestic partnerships, since this is the result that seems most likely to effectuate as much of the married couples' intentions as possible. In a sense, this would be similar to what courts do when they invalidate legislation on constitutional grounds, including in the same-sex marriage case itself: Since the legislation can't be literally applied, they tend to try to find the solution that the legislature would likely have preferred had it anticipated the court decision.

In the same-sex marriage case, for instance, the court had to implement its equality decision by choosing between treating same-sex marriages as "marriages," and concluding that under state law no marriages could be labeled "marriages." (Recall that even the right-to-marry part of the court's decision left open the possibility that a legislature could simply not use the label "marriage" for any relationship.) The court chose to treat same-sex marriages as marriages, reasoning that "it is readily apparent that extending the designation of marriage to same-sex couples clearly is more consistent with the probable legislative intent than withholding that designation from both opposite-sex couples and same-sex couples in favor of some other, uniform designation." The actual legislative intent of the legislators plus the voters couldn't be perfectly implemented because of the court's constitutional ruling, but the court tried to implement it as closely as possible. One could argue that courts should do the same as to private same-sex marriage decisions invalidated by a state constitutional amendment.

On the other hand, I suppose there might be some same-sex married couples who might take a "marriage or nothing" view, so as to them changing the marriage to a domestic partnership might not reach the result they prefer; maybe there would even be so many that the judgment about what is "more consistent with the probable [individual] intent" becomes unclear. More importantly, there are specific statutory provisions dictating what it takes to create a domestic partnership. A court might well conclude that, unless these formalities are complied with, the domestic partnership can't be said to exist, even if a different set of formalities required for a marriage -- a now-invalidated marriage -- have been complied with.

Given this, I'm not sure how likely a court would be to take this approach; I'd love to hear those who know more about California judicial practices in similar scenarios might be (though note that no scenario has been quite like this one). Note also that the backers of the initiative might well make statements in the ballot pamphlet endorsing this solution -- since such statements might give the initiative more support without deeply offending its advocates -- and those statements might influence the judges deciding how to implement the initiative once it's enacted.

3. A third option is that they will be eliminated altogether, and that married couples will remain domestic partners only if they had entered both into a marriage and into a domestic partnership (on a belt-and-suspenders theory). I wonder, though, whether existing California marriage and domestic partnership law would allow this. My sense is that it should be interpreted to allow this (since this is hardly the same as marrying one person but then becoming domestic partner with another, which is not allowed), but I'm not positive.

4. Finally, it's possible that the legislature will step in, either right after the enactment of the initiative or even before it, specifically providing that any invalidated same-sex marriage will become a domestic partnership. I think that would be good, because it would minimize disruption and best effectuate people's preferences, and I see no reason why it would be unconstitutional. But I'm not sure that it's going to happen.

In any case, just some tentative thoughts -- I'd love to hear yours.

John D (mail):
While I know many couples in registered domestic partnerships, there is not one that would not trade it in for a marriage. Thought a friend of mine did find the "easy dissolution in the first five years part if there are no children" interesting, I didn't ask if she would have gone for the option (she and her husband have a teenage daughter).

Every same-sex couple I know considers RDPs a lesser relationship. I have friends who are in the "marriage or nothing crowd," which I was a member of until the benefits for a RDP became substantial enough that it made sense.

This much is clear: RDPs are separate and unequal. No matter the view of the voters toward same-sex couples, there is no equal solution short of marriage, as upsetting as that may be to some people. (I would happily have my tax dollars provide them with medication to relieve that anxiety as long as they leave my marriage and those of other same-sex couples alone.)

It is my sincere hope that the voters do not hand the court the problem of providing a just and equal solution without the simple expedient of allowing same-sex couples to marry.

I have my hopes.

My fear is that the backers of the initiative, who have made no suggestion that some same-sex marriages might be grandfathered in (that's seems to be contrary to their hopes), if victorious will mount a new assault on domestic partnerships.

Let's be clear: the backers of the proposed amendment don't wish gay people to have rights.
5.19.2008 9:21pm
John D (mail):
While I know many couples in registered domestic partnerships, there is not one that would not trade it in for a marriage. Thought a friend of mine did find the "easy dissolution in the first five years part if there are no children" interesting, I didn't ask if she would have gone for the option (she and her husband have a teenage daughter).

Every same-sex couple I know considers RDPs a lesser relationship. I have friends who are in the "marriage or nothing crowd," which I was a member of until the benefits for a RDP became substantial enough that it made sense.

This much is clear: RDPs are separate and unequal. No matter the view of the voters toward same-sex couples, there is no equal solution short of marriage, as upsetting as that may be to some people. (I would happily have my tax dollars provide them with medication to relieve that anxiety as long as they leave my marriage and those of other same-sex couples alone.)

It is my sincere hope that the voters do not hand the court the problem of providing a just and equal solution without the simple expedient of allowing same-sex couples to marry.

I have my hopes.

My fear is that the backers of the initiative, who have made no suggestion that some same-sex marriages might be grandfathered in (that's seems to be contrary to their hopes), if victorious will mount a new assault on domestic partnerships.

Let's be clear: the backers of the proposed amendment don't wish gay people to have rights.
5.19.2008 9:21pm
John D (mail):
(Sorry about the double post. I swear I clicked only once.)
5.19.2008 9:22pm
lesser ajax (mail):
What are the odds that such an amendment would be invalidated under some variation of the Romer v. Evans theory?
5.19.2008 9:28pm
Soldats (mail):
Another option I've seen bandied about is this

That if the ban passes in November, that it is not an amendment to the Constitution but a revision and as such has a different set of criteria for passage and would thus be invalid.
5.19.2008 9:40pm
Milhouse (www):
Soldats: That's ridiculous. Per your link, a revision is a change to "the ‘substantial entirety’ of the Constitution", or a "far reaching change in the nature of our basic governmental plan". Returning the constitution to the status quo ante a recent court decision cannot possibly be called a revision.
5.19.2008 9:47pm
Robert West (mail) (www):
Cal. Fam. Code Section 297(b)(2) requires that someone entering into a domestic partnership not be married.

Oddly, Cal. Fam. Code Section 302 does not require that someone entering into a marriage not be part of a domestic partnership.

Cal. Fam. Code Section 299.2 says that, while an out-of-state legal union of two persons of the same sex which is *not a marriage* will be recognized as a domestic partnership, an out-of-state same-sex marriage will not be. That *might* influence a court's analysis on what to do with previously legal same-sex marriages invalidated by a state constitutional amendment.
5.19.2008 9:49pm
Nels Nelson (mail):
I'm not a lawyer, so I can't comment, but I was just reading an article this weekend which concluded it likely that the marriages would not be affected. Even the lawyer for the amendment backers seemed to concede that.

San Diego Union-Tribune article
5.19.2008 10:00pm
Rev. Fr. Jessie Somosierra (mail) (www):
I am just following the development of this case. You have raised a very thorough study on this matter and have given variety of oprion
5.19.2008 10:00pm
Francis (mail):

It seems to me that one of the more interesting lawsuits brought if the initiative passes is for a same-sex couple that cannot marry to challenge the benefits that the State provides only to opposite-sex marriages. So the question that EV asks might be moot -- the California Constitution might be structured in a way that the State no longer recognizes any "marriages".
5.19.2008 10:29pm
Mike S.:
Something from the 1st Gulf War strikes me as offering another possibility. American servicewomen were, as a legal fiction, classified by the Sauidis as men, so they could drive. Perhaps if the amendment passes one member of each same-sex marriage could be designated as legally being of the opposite sex for the duration of the marriage. (I'm kidding, for those who can't tell)
5.19.2008 10:30pm
Waldo (mail):
Converting marriages into domestic partnerships would seem to make the most sense, but is it consistent with Art I, Sec 9, of the US Constitution prohibiting ex post facto laws?

On another topic, John D:

This much is clear: RDPs are separate and unequal. No matter the view of the voters toward same-sex couples, there is no equal solution short of marriage, as upsetting as that may be to some people. (I would happily have my tax dollars provide them with medication to relieve that anxiety as long as they leave my marriage and those of other same-sex couples alone.)

Depends on your definition of marriage. But are you willing to have your tax dollars support children born to unwed mothers now that we've decoupled marriage from childbearing?
5.19.2008 10:32pm
Stupendous Yappi (mail):
2. Another is that pre-initiative same-sex marriages will become domestic partnerships, which under California statutes give most of the rights of marriage.

Exactly which rights of same-sex marriages were denied under domestic partnerships?
5.19.2008 10:37pm
Dilan Esper (mail) (www):
It's also possible that gay marriage opponents will try to argue that the constitutional amendment will ban domestic partnerships as well as gay marriage. (I doubt the California courts would buy that one, but the bait and switch has worked in other states and it has worked in California with other issues.)

As for a Romer v. Evans challenge, I don't see the federal courts going for that one, because it would end up being a de facto legalization of gay marriage, and they aren't there yet. Romer involved antidiscrimination laws, which are a lot less controversial than gay marriage.
5.19.2008 10:41pm
Dilan Esper (mail) (www):
With respect to possibility 4, Prof. Volokh is correct that this would be the right thing to do, but one must bear in mind that the Republicans in the California legislature, while a minority, are TRULY homophobic. I was once told by an experienced state legislator that you can count on EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN IN BOTH CHAMBERS voting against any legislation that confers a civil right on gays or lesbians in any manner whatsoever.

So every gay rights bill has to be passed with solely Democratic votes. Which would mean that there couldn't be very many defections by purist Democrats who don't want to endorse an allegedly "separate but equal" regime or give anti-gay marriage advocates a talking point that gay marriage is unnecessary before the election.
5.19.2008 10:45pm
NE2d:
I don't know all of the procedural hurdles there are for initiatives, constitutional amendments, statutes, etc. in California; is there anything, short of SCOTUS declaring the amendment to the Cal. Constitution in violation of the U.S. Constitution (unlikely), that would prevent same sex marriage from being legalized, then illegalized (it's a perfectly cromulent word), then legalized again depending on who wins each election?
5.19.2008 10:51pm
SteveW:
The summary of the proposed amendment on the California Secretary of State's website says that the amendment would not change existing law. If that summary stays the same, then I do not see how the amendment, assuming it passes, could be made to apply to marriages entered into before the vote.

Another interesting issue, raised by the California Log Cabin Republicans, is whether or not the proposed "amendment" has become a "revision" because of the court decision. Unlike an amendment, a revision of the California constitution requires involvement of the legislature. If the amendment would apply retroactively to marriages entered before the vote, then terminating existing marriages by majority vote would seem to be such an extreme action that it would probably a revision, instead of a mere amendment.
5.19.2008 10:53pm
Barbara Skolaut (mail):
Whatever happens, we can be sure of one thing: The legislature will do everything in its power to completely screw things up (by passing legislation to "fix" whatever). As usual.
5.19.2008 10:57pm
LarryA (mail) (www):
This is California we're talking about. Forget about all the reasonable alternatives.
5.19.2008 11:49pm
Randy R. (mail):
"Exactly which rights of same-sex marriages were denied under domestic partnerships?"

Well, for starters, any federal benefits that are confered upon marriage are not given to any DPs. DPs can't file a joint tax return, nor can they avail themselves to the benefits of the right to not compel a married person to testify against each other, nor any right to social security benefits, and so on.

Furthermore, as a practical matter, when you say you are married, doctors and hospitals won't question it when it comes to visitation rights or life or death decision making, but with DPs, they often require some sort of proof.
5.20.2008 2:32am
Robert West (mail) (www):
It's also possible that gay marriage opponents will try to argue that the constitutional amendment will ban domestic partnerships as well as gay marriage.

Possible, but unlikely. The amendment has identical wording to Proposition 22, the statutory ban on gay marriage. Proposition 22 has already been interpreted to not ban domestic partnerships.

It is hard to imagine that a constitutional amendment with identical wording to a statute which did not ban gay marriage could be interpreted as banning gay marriage.
5.20.2008 3:29am
George Weiss (mail) (www):
randy- the fed doesn't give you those rights regardless of whether you call it marriage or a DP. Calling it marriage as opposed to a DP doesn't help that anyway.

under the defense of marriage act, (the portion of which is codified under 1 U.S.C.A. § 7), the feds will not consider a same sex couple married under any circumstances (tax or otherwise).
5.20.2008 3:39am
George Weiss (mail) (www):
robert west-



It is hard to imagine that a constitutional amendment with identical wording to a statute which did not ban gay marriage could be interpreted as banning gay marriage.


ironic-we just saw a state constitutional provision with identical wording to 50 other states's constitution and the us constitution be interpreted differently in CA than virtually everywhere else
5.20.2008 4:09am
George Weiss (mail) (www):
Nels Nelson:


Even the lawyer for the amendment backers seemed to concede that [the amendment would be applied prospectively].


bait and switch.

-they say that to convince swing voters that it wont cuase too much confusion. Then, when the amendment is passed, they switch
5.20.2008 4:12am
Randy R. (mail):
George: "under the defense of marriage act, (the portion of which is codified under 1 U.S.C.A. § 7), the feds will not consider a same sex couple married under any circumstances (tax or otherwise)."

You are of course correct with regards to federal benefits. However, DOMA can always be repealed, at which point all the federal benefits would be allowed.
5.20.2008 1:05pm
sdao (mail):

While I know many couples in registered domestic partnerships, there is not one that would not trade it in for a marriage.

For what its worth, I am in a registered domestic partnership and have no interest in marriage. (I'm straight.)

The domestic partnership allows us to have insurance through my partner's employer and I can't think of any benefit of marriage that is important to us that we haven't been able to achieve by contract.

(And, as someone who went through a messy divorce with thousands and thousands of dollars of attorney's fees previously) I can say that the fact that the domestic partnership can be dissolved just by one of us sending a letter is comforting. (Knock on wood, we've been together for over 10 years now.)
5.20.2008 1:52pm
John D (mail):
Sdao,

Too late.

Now, I still don't know you. In fact, I don't know any opposite-sex couples in a registered domestic partnership. I do know opposite-sex couples who simply live together. All the opposite-sex couples of my acquaintance where both are over the age of 65 are married.

After all that confusing description of my social circle, let me sum up how my gay friends feel:

While I know many same-sex couples in egistered domestic partnerships, there is not one that would not trade it in for a marriage.


As for you, as I said, "too late."

If you've been together more than five years in a RDP, to dissolve it you have to go to Family Court. Yup, after five years, or if there are children in the household, you're in exactly the same position as a married couple, with respect to the state.

I'm afraid all you've done is strip yourself of the protections offered by the Federal Government.

Speaking of the feds, my husband and I calculated things (we had to in order to complete our California taxes) and the IRS got less out of us than they would have in the absence of DOMA. If granted my civil rights, it will be a fee that I will happily pay.
5.20.2008 2:11pm
sdao (mail):
JDAO

We're only registered in SF since that's all we needed for insurance.

I believe the SF DP registry is different from the State registry.
5.20.2008 2:37pm
Robert West (mail) (www):
we just saw a state constitutional provision with identical wording to 50 other states's constitution and the us constitution be interpreted differently in CA than virtually everywhere else

The fact that California's court interprets phrase 'X' differently than other states do is of limited predictive power regarding the question: "will California's court interpret phrase 'Y' differently than it has in the past?"
5.20.2008 4:11pm
George Weiss (mail) (www):
robert west

good point
5.20.2008 4:20pm
Hal B. (mail):
EV:

(1) I don't think it's that easy to nullify the marriages that occur post-decision, pre-amendment. This is why:

Imagine this amendment doesn't pass this time, but (as will obviously be the case) the anti-gay marriage lobby keeps trying and gets it on the ballot in 5 years, or 10, or 35.

How could it be that the amendment could invalidate a 35-year-old marriage in an instant without some constitutional due process questions or contracts clause issues? What about the kids that have been adopted, the medical benefits that have been enacted, the houses that have been purchased, etc.

Perhaps Domestic Partnership solves some of that, but not all of it. I for one do not want DP. Marriage or nothing. Separate is not equal, and I will definitely definitely fight this battle in court should this day come.

(2) This might not have been the point of your post, but I think they will need a lot more on that constitutional amendment than just "marriage is between a man and a woman." I think that that could easily be invalidated by the Cal. Sup. Ct. They could just say, fine, plan B, marriage doesn't exist because if marriage is between a man and a woman, and the equal protection clause requires equality, then marriage as "marriage" is unconstitutional and domestic partnerships must be used instead. They threatened as much in their opinion.

(3) What about the argument that it will take more than just a normal constitutional amendment to alter this fundamental right, i.e., that it is not an "amendment", but a "revision"
5.20.2008 7:02pm
Hal B. (mail):
Also, I don't see how it's possible to invalidate the marriages. If a U.S. constitutional amendment passed to say that the First Amendment doesn't apply in schools or getting rid of the Fifth Amendment's right to remain silent, you can't go back and punish for speech made at school while it was constitutionally permissible to make such speech, or force people who remained silent to come back and speak. Right?
5.20.2008 7:13pm
nonsubhomine:
Hal B.,

I'm not a lawyer, but the point you made about the first and fifth amendments being changed, i.e., protection against ex post facto laws, only applies to things that have happened, not those that continue to happen. For example, if the first amendment was repealed with regards to schools, a student or teacher that spoke before the amendment was repealed would still be protected by it, and one who spoke after the repeal would not. With marriage though, if you were married, legally, before the same-sex marriage ban went into effect, and still married after, I think it is a continuation of what (then becomes) a crime, and you lose that protection against ex post facto. The marriage is still existing, and therefore, ex post facto, i think, applies until you continue the act past when it is outlawed. Then i think you are screwed - but, again, i am not a lawyer. Anyone who is, let me know if i'm right.
5.21.2008 4:25am
NJRob (mail):
John and others,

it's clear that what the courts did in California was not rule according to the text of the California Constitution, but instead decided how they feel the law ought to be is what is truly important. If the ballot initiative passes, the court would not have the jurisdiction to overrule it according to Federal Law. That would be a case that would have to be decided by the Supreme Court. There was a reason for the separation of the Federal courts and State courts.

As for feeling that "separate but unequal" comes into play in this case. It doesn't matter how you feel. The courts job is not to make you feel better, to right injustice, to be the enlightened philosopher that decides what laws govern us all. It instead is required to decide cases according to existing law and existing precendent. When the courts decide to actually start following the law, then we will begin to reclaim our country.
5.21.2008 8:03am
Hal B. (mail):
Nonsubhomine:

I see your point. I guess the distinction is that marriage is a continuing status, whereas speech usually occurs in an instant in time. The ultimate problem is that I think it's pretty clear that, if the marriage was valid at the time, you have some interest in having it preserved. It can't just be undone at the whim of the government (or the people!) for that matter.

It's hard to see when thinking about November, but what about 30 years from now? Can they pass a law that invalidates people's marriages 30 years from now? What about all the investment that the married couple has put into that contractual relationship (as I mentioned)? Legally, there seems to be no distinction between the 30-year-old marriage and the six-month-old marriage.

NJRob:

You are absolutely wrong. If you don't know law, I think it's pretty irresponsible to comment on legal issues like this. Federal law has absolutely nothing to do with this. The California Supreme Court -- not the United States Supreme Court -- are the final arbitors of the California Constitution. An amendment to that constitution is within the purview of the former, not the latter.

Also, FYI, the United States Supreme Court struck down its earlier finding that "separate but equal" was okay. It was their job to right this injustice, because the Consititution demanded so.
5.21.2008 2:38pm
NJRob (mail):
Hal B,

on the subject of federal law, you and I are in agreement. What I stated was that the California court couldn't use the "separate but equal" ruling by the Supreme Court to overturn it's own constitution if the amendment passes. The Calfornia courts are subject to their own constitution. Many here are wondering if the California court will try and find a way to ignore the amendment process to the California constitution and rule how they would prefer the law to be.

That is the proper reading of my earlier post. You incorrectly interpreted it to read that I was stating that the court should use federal law in deciding the case. I only mentioned "separate but unequal (sic)" because John felt that marriages were the only way he could fairly achieve equality under the law.

As for the insult about my not knowing law, you have no knowledge of myself other than my one post you misinterpreted. You might want to temper your arguments further before foolishly insulting others.
5.21.2008 7:48pm
Steve Bainbridge (mail) (www):
Eugene: Over on my blog, I ask: "why isn’t there a fifth option; namely, why couldn’t the California Supreme Court simply hold that the ballot initiative is unconstitutional under the same state constitutional provisions on which the court relied to hold the current state marriage laws unconstitutional?"

Suppose, for example, that the California electorate passed a ballot initiative amending the state constitution to ban interracial marriages. In light of Loving v. Virginia, of course, such an initiative would be unconstitutional under the United State Constitution. Why should the result be any different under the state equal protection and due process clauses?
5.22.2008 8:41pm
A.. Night:
The "Revision" thing bothers me. I ran the decision thru the word search and that is what George calls what he did. Are there different rules for undoing a revision? He did not amend the constitution, he did a revision.
5.23.2008 3:13am
A.. Night:
The "Revision" thing bothers me. I ran the decision thru the word search and that is what George calls what he did. Are there different rules for undoing a revision? He did not amend the constitution, he did a revision.
5.23.2008 3:13am