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Inaccurate Statement by Brady Campaign's head

The Brady Campaign's preemptive announcement of defeat in District of Columbia v. Heller contains an interesting bit of spin:

But given that McCain stood by his support for closing "the gun-show loophole" during a recent speech to the N.R.A., the Brady Campaign president hopes that new gun restrictions can make headway regardless of who wins in November.
"For John McCain to be the political candidate of the NRA shows how things have changed," Helmke said.
Plus ca "change," plus c'est la meme chose. In 2000, the NRA endorsed Texas Governor George W. Bush, who supported a similar provision regarding gun shows. Accordingly, the NRA's endorsement of McCain is not good evidence that gun control is more popular in 2008 than it was in 2000.

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Thorley Winston (mail) (www):

Plus ca "change," plus c'est la meme chose. In 2000, the NRA endorsed Texas Governor George W. Bush, who supported a similar provision regarding gun shows. Accordingly, the NRA's endorsement of McCain is not good evidence that gun control is more popular in 2008 than it was in 2000.


IIRC then Governor Bush also publicly supported renewing the so-called “assault weapons” ban (while taking no steps to make it happen) which Senator McCain voted against. Which might be construed as a data point that the momentum is actually in the opposite direction.
6.13.2008 11:29am
jrww (mail):
We're entering day two of the VC blackout of Kozinski's porngate scandal.
6.13.2008 12:04pm
Glenn W. Bowen (mail):

We're entering day two of the VC blackout of Kozinski's porngate scandal.


since you've already hijacked the thread...

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080612/D918R9N80.html
6.13.2008 12:13pm
LarryA (mail) (www):
INACCURATE STATEMENT BY BRADY CAMPAIGN'S HEAD
Redundant. (Yes, I’m partisan. The Brady folks are still veracity-challenged.)
Which might be construed as a data point that the momentum is actually in the opposite direction.
I would also note that both Democratic candidates campaigned on the platform that they “believed the individual rights interpretation and supported the Second Amendment.”

I don’t believe either of them, but it’s an indication that gun control isn’t very popular any more, and even the Democrats know it.

Cue Supreme Court in 5--4--3--
6.13.2008 12:49pm
Per Son:
I believe the DC gun base will be decided 9-0, with uber splintered opinions on how to lawfully place limitations on the right.

Brady Campaign will need to find something new to do.
6.13.2008 1:45pm
Sebastian (mail) (www):
To the best of my knowledge, NRA hasn't endorsed McCain.
6.13.2008 2:01pm
Bob in SeaTac (mail):
Inaccurate statement by Brady Campaign? The surprise would be an accurate statement.
6.13.2008 2:26pm
Xrlq (mail) (www):
Has McCain taken an anti-gun position on any issue that wasn't shared by both Presidents Bush, President Reagan, and everyone else who has served in my lifetime? It seems to me that the biggest sticking point between McCain and the NRA is the First Amendment, not the Second.
6.14.2008 12:21am
mike123 (mail):
Xrlq, this is correct. That doesn't say much about the NRA though, as they supported many of the gun control schemes we suffer from today. The NRA has supported background checks. The NRA needs gun control for its fundraising. That is why they tried to derail Heller v. DC.

If you want to see more proof the NRA is invested in gun control, watch who they endorse. Bob Barr is the libertarian candidate, opposes all gun control, and is a board member of the NRA. Will he get the NRA endorsement? Nope.

McCain wants to close the gun show loophole, where Americans have to get government permission to own a gun. Clearly that is allowed by the Second Amendment's "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". McCain is for expanding gun control in the US, not revoking it. He'll be endorsed by the NRA because he'll continue gun control.
6.14.2008 8:24am
Brett Bellmore:

The NRA needs gun control for its fundraising. That is why they tried to derail Heller v. DC.


While I'm not very fond of the NRA, I think that explanation is both unkind, and inaccurate. The NRA's reason for attempting to derail Heller was that they thought it was an unnecessary gamble, that they were winning on the political end of things, and didn't need to risk a judicial upset. And I agree with them about the gamble part: We all seem to be assuming Heller will prevail, and maybe that's the likely outcome, but it's by no means certain even at this point.

The justices who are presumed to be on the side of reading "right of the people" as referring to a right, tend to be excessively enamored of precedent, and upholding the 2nd amendment means, in the end, striking down a LOT of laws which have accumulated over the last 70 years. Perhaps not right away, but eventually. That's NOT something they're eager to do. It's anybody's guess whether they'll decide to rule correctly, or conservatively, and we need every last one of them to win.

The chief reason Heller was a reasonable gamble is that the 2nd amendment IS going to end up before the Supreme court, sooner or later. Either now, with a respectable test case, and fairly good Court, or later, with a test case engineered by the Brady Center, before the Obama court.

When your choice is between risky and downright suicidal, you pick risky.

And, while I fully intend to vote for Barr, short of McCain coming out on the stump for a renewal of the 'assault weapon' ban, the NRA is not going to endorse a third party candidate. Either Obama or McCain is going to win, and the NRA has no interest in changing a 50-50 chance of electing somebody pissed off at them into a 100% chance.

The NRA makes a lot of choices I don't like, but at least most of the time, they have defensible reasons for making them.
6.14.2008 9:00am
one of many:
While I agree that it looks a lock that the NRA will endorse McCain (certainly they will not endorse the Irishman) they have not to my knowledge done so. For the past upteen presidntial election cycles they waited until October before endorsing a presidential candidate and there seems be no reason for them to change this. They may chose not to endorse anyone for president this election, O'Bama's record on gun ownership is evident enough that anyone who would be swayed by an NRA endorsement of McCain is going to vote for McCain anyway, and with McCain's temperament it is unlikely that an NRA endorsement would have much influence on him. The only power of an NRA endorsement in this election (baring major change) is a threat to endorse Barr, not a strong hand.
6.14.2008 4:05pm