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Excellent article on Hofstader's Social Darwinism in American Thought:

Tim Leonard of Princeton has posted a very interesting and important paper on Hofstader's influential book, and what he calls the "myth of Social Darwinism". Leonard points out, among other things, that the association of Herbert Spencer and William Graham Sumner with "Social Darwinism" is almost entirely a product of Hofstader's work, and that Hofstader merely used "Social Darwinism" as an epithet to discredit (libertarian) views he opposed. More generally, Hofstader's book "gave impetus to the novel assocation of Social Darwinism not only with laissez-faire," but with racism and imperialism. "Never mind that the set of Gilded Age and Progresive Era writers who endorsed laissez-faire, racism, imperialism and eugenics is essentially empty.... [Sumner, in fact, was a leading opponent of the Spanish-American War] 'social Darwinism' functions as a synecdoche for all that an early-1940s New Deal liberal (and many cince) would regard as retrograde and reactionary."

Randy R. (mail):
Thank goodness we finally straightened that out! But it will not have much of an impact, if at all, I'm afraid.

I really think that at least part of the opposition to teaching evolution in schools is that that people mistakenly believe that evolution and social Dawinism are the same thing. They are not, of course. If people realized that social Dawinism is something altogether different, I think some of the opposition to evolution will melt away. (Not all, of course)

However, there is now an entire industry created attempting to discredit evolution, and once that happens, facts are no longer relevant. For these people, it's in their own interests to confuse the two, and that's why I don't have much hope it will change much.
7.24.2008 3:02pm
Anonymous #350:
I really think that at least part of the opposition to teaching evolution in schools is that that people mistakenly believe that evolution and social Dawinism are the same thing.
I've never heard of that from either the pro or con side. Now, there are a few times I've observed in conversation with an irreligious person that they have drifted from evolution to social darwinism, and sometimes on to euginics, but even that is rarely meant seriously (more of a philisophical exploration of the Left).
7.24.2008 3:10pm
Ben P (mail):

I've never heard of that from either the pro or con side. Now, there are a few times I've observed in conversation with an irreligious person that they have drifted from evolution to social darwinism


I think everyone has that friend that occasionally spouts out that we should sterilize all the idiots, and I think the near universal reaction is a nod and a noncommittal noise.

But I'd agree I don't see much of a tie between "social darwinism" and opponents of evolution except to the extent that Evolution deniers attempt to baldly tie evolution in with Nazi-like eugenics ideas. (IE "hitler believed in evolution")

If anything, I think I see more "social darwinism" (used in the common somewhat derogatory sense that it's usually used in today) in people who are also typically opposed to evolution. Sometimes it's dressed up in religious terminology, but the real difference between "Social darwinism" and some applications of "prosperity gospel" isn't much, they both result in the conclusion that the poor deserve their status.
7.24.2008 3:20pm
davidbernstein (mail):
Hmm, my phrasing was little awkward. The point isn't that racism has no association with Social Darwinism, it's that to the extent there were people who were Social Darwinists, you won't find them supporting laissez-faire, imperalism, eugenics and racism. Eugenics and laissez-faire, in particular, were considered opposites.
7.24.2008 4:29pm
Thales (mail) (www):
I've always thought the name was backwards too (even as a pejorative and caricature), given the timing and direction of influence between Spencer and Darwin. Biological Spencerism would be more apt.
7.24.2008 4:43pm
Michael F. Martin (mail) (www):
Did even Holmes fall victim to this false association in his Lochner dissent?
7.24.2008 5:21pm
Michael F. Martin (mail) (www):
I think at most Hofstadter codified a sentiment that was already widely held in 1944.

But the paper is very useful for pointing out the cultural contingency of the association of evolutionary ideas with fascism.
7.24.2008 5:37pm
DavidBernstein (mail):
Holmes doesn't say anything about Social Darwinism in his Lochner dissent, that gloss was put on his opinion by others. He accuses the Court of enacting Mr. Herbert Spencer's Social Statics, which is a libertarian book Spencer wrote before the Origins of Species, and which was famous for advocating a libertarian "law of equal freedom." In context, it's clear that what Holmes was saying is not that the Court was Social Darwinist, but that it improperly read strong libertarian presumptions into the 14th Amendment.
7.24.2008 7:09pm
Michael F. Martin (mail) (www):
On second thought, Holmes is not a good example of anything. He's a "hard case," and makes for "bad law" in the sense that at the time, probably nobody else thought about things the way he did.

But this paper makes Holmes look even more impressive in that regard.
7.24.2008 7:15pm
Michael F. Martin (mail) (www):
I saw your response right after I posted mine. That sounds right to me. But boy is this fascinating to see how finely things split up at that moment in time.
7.24.2008 7:17pm
Thales (mail) (www):
"Holmes doesn't say anything about Social Darwinism in his Lochner dissent, that gloss was put on his opinion by others. He accuses the Court of enacting Mr. Herbert Spencer's Social Statics, which is a libertarian book Spencer wrote before the Origins of Species, and which was famous for advocating a libertarian "law of equal freedom." In context, it's clear that what Holmes was saying is not that the Court was Social Darwinist, but that it improperly read strong libertarian presumptions into the 14th Amendment."

I don't disagree, though Holmes's dissent is often interpreted to mean something different. Because Holmes was an admirer (at various points) of Spencer along with various social evolutionary, eugenicist and protofascist thinkers, readers often take it to mean that while he preferred as a matter of his own views that a social Darwinist outcome occur, he thought himself bound by judicial restraint and the meaning of the 14th amendment to hold otherwise.
7.24.2008 7:21pm
Michael F. Martin (mail) (www):
I will add, however, that I'm not sure I agree with Holmes's view of the Fourteenth Amendment in Lochner. I'm more sympathetic to the view that Thurgood Marshall took in his address to a bunch of patent lawyers in Maui in 1987.
7.24.2008 7:21pm
rfg:
For good or ill, the concept of biological evolution was applied by a number of people to individuals and societies (for example, social evolution- the strong will conquer the weak- was used by some as a justification for the mass wars in the first half of the 20th century). This may have led a number of people who should have known better (like William Jennings Bryan) to reject evolution period.

I suspect that the current disfavor for the term lies in it's frequent invocation by people unwilling to acknowledge that external factors such as birth/luck/government policy played a part in their success. Since they believe they made the big time entirely on their own merits, everyone who failed did so because of their own flaws.
7.24.2008 9:16pm
Kirk:
Thales,

Good point. C. S. Lewis wrote in the same vein. Though I'm too lazy right now to try to look up the exact title(s) where he did this, ISTR that Shelley and perhaps also Pope were cited.
7.24.2008 9:22pm
Michael F. Martin (mail) (www):
@DavidBernstein

I still think Holmes is a bad example of what most people thought. But how do you reconcile his opinion in Buck v. Bell?
7.25.2008 1:45am
Clayton E. Cramer (mail) (www):

I really think that at least part of the opposition to teaching evolution in schools is that that people mistakenly
believe that evolution and social Dawinism are the same
thing.
I would guess that there are few people so ignorant as to think that they are the same thing. However: evolution became the justification for Social Darwinism, and there are plenty of examples of scientists at the start of the 20th century using evolutionary theory as justification for getting rid of the inferior breeds of human.

Read University of Chicago Zoology Professor Horatio Hackett Newman's Readings in Evolution, Genetics, and Eugenics (University of Chicago Press, 1921), starting at page 465 for a discussion of how governments have solved the problems of feeblemindedness by passing eugenics laws, and fear of how the inferior forms of humans were increasing in America.

Starting on p. 475:
4. The Restriction of Undesirable Germ Plasm

A negative way to bring about better blood in the world is to follow the clarion call of Davenport, and "dry up the streams that feed the torrent of defective and degenerate protoplasm." This may be partially accomplished, at least in America, by employing the following agencies: control of immigration; more discriminating marriage laws; a quickened eugenic sentiment; sexual segregation of defectives; and finally, drastic measures of asexualization or sterilization when necessary.

a) Control of Immigration

The enforcement of immigration laws tends to debar from the United States not only many undesirable individuals, but also incidentally to keep out much potentially bad germplasm that, if admitted, might play havoc with future generations.
Here's another book, by Southwestern College Biology Professor William M. Goldsmith, The Laws of Life: Principles of Evolution, Heredity and Eugenics (Boston: The Gorham Press, 1922). Again, all three of these are brought together, and starting on page 398 is a chapter whose title alone tells you where this is going: "Moulding the Super-Man." The topics to be covered are also pretty typical of where this stuff was headed:

Final "Evolution of Man"--A Broader View Necessary--Our Attitude--The Unfit Work an Injustice upon Society--Eugenic Responsiblity--Human Inheritance--The Jukes--The Edwards--the Kallikas--Relation of Degeneracy to the Community--Inequality of Men--Overproduction of Inferior--Limiting the Unfit--Sterilization...
I could keep going, but this is the sort of racist trash also appears repeatedly in Democratic newspapers of the period 1916-23 that I have read while researching other topics, such as the Sacramento Bee, and the San Francisco Chronicle. The Bee was quoting a prominent birth control advocate of the time about the dangers of the black race outreproducing the white race--and that was the reason why birth control had to be legal. The Chronicle article warned of the danger of "race suicide" if little (white) boys had to grow up in apartments instead of houses.
7.25.2008 6:57pm
Kirk:
Clayton,

Were Republican-leaning papers any better? (Not a rhetorical question; I genuinely don't know.)
7.27.2008 2:11am