The Volokh Conspiracy

More Skepticism about the Bailout:

A quick roundup of commentary on the bailout:

A front-page story in the Washington Post discusses the opposition by many economists to the bailout, including their doubts that it will actually even work: "Away from Wall Street, Economists Question Basis of Paulson's Plan."

Allan Meltzer, who I heard invoked about half-a-dozen times last night on tv, expresses his view here:

ALLAN MELTZER, Carnegie Mellon University: It's a terrible idea. It's undemocratic. It's bad economic policy, and it's bad social policy. And it has a very little chance of solving the problem in a meaningful way.

JEFFREY BROWN: Well, flesh that out a bit. Is it that we are not in a crisis? Or is it that government intervention of this kind is not the right answer?

ALLAN MELTZER: Well, I've listened to governments tell me for 40 years that there was a crisis and the world was going to fall apart if we didn't do this or that. But there have been a few cases where they weren't able to do that.

One was the commercial paper crisis in 1970. There have been several others. The world did not fall apart. Last week, we had Lehman Brothers went into bankruptcy. Within three days, most of the assets were sold.

We had AIG turn down three offers to buy the company because they thought they would get a better deal from the government. It turned out they didn't get the better deal from the government. Now the stockholders suddenly woke up and said — the major stockholders said, "We'd like to buy the company."

Well, that's what I think we need to do. We need to get the government's hand out of this, and let's see whether we can't get a market solution.

The market people caused this problem. They ought to be the ones that pay the cost of having it cleaned up.

One major justification/rationalization for the bailout is that Wall Street's crisis will trickle down to "Main Street" and lead to bank and business failures on the local level. Maybe this eventually will turn out to be the case. Yet today's Washington Post reports that community banks that were responsible lenders over the past decade are now thriving. They are flush with liquidity as depositors pour money into them and borrowers turn to them for credit. Community banks obviously cannot pick up the slack for financing for massive business transactions, so there may still be a problem there. But at this point it is not obvious that the rumbles on Wall Street will have the dire trickle-down consequences that President Bush warned of the other night when he told us that student loans, small-business loans, and car loans were in peril. In fact, it looks like there is at least some offset here:

At the same time, many smaller banks said they were actually benefiting from the problems on Wall Street. Deposits are flowing in as customers flee riskier investments, and well-qualified borrowers are lining up for loans.

"We collect money from local savers, and we lend it in the local community," said William Dunkelberg, chairman of Liberty Bell Bank in Cherry Hill, N.J. "We're doing fine. There are 9,000 financial institutions out there, and most of them are small and most of them are doing fine."

Dunkelberg, a professor of economics at Temple University and chief economist for the National Federation of Independent Business, added that a recent survey of that group's members found that only 2 percent said getting a bank loan was the great challenge facing their businesses.

"If you can't get a loan, my advice is to go see your local community bank," Dunkelberg said.

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We're drowning in liquidity because people are pulling money out from other places and depositing it with us," said Peter Fitzgerald, chairman of Chain Bridge Bancorp in McLean. "Our bank has benefited tremendously."

Fitzgerald, a former senator from Illinois whose family has been in the banking business for generations, said the current situation struck him as similar to past downturns.

"The banking system did need to slow down," Fitzgerald said. As it does, riskier customers are being turned away. At the same time, banks that overextended are now forced to turn away even good customers. The challenge for Chain Bridge, he said, is identifying the worthwhile customers. The bank has plenty of money to make good loans, he said.

Nor are small bankers the only ones who object to the bailout. John A. Allison, CEO of BB&T Bank, also objects to bailing out irresponsible bankers (HT: Division of Labor):

There is no panic on Main Street and in sound financial institutions. The problems are in high-risk financial institutions and on Wall Street.

While all financial intemediaries are being impacted by liquidity issues, this is primarily a bailout of poorly run financial institutions. It is extremely important that the bailout not damage well run companies.

Corrections are not all bad. The market correction process elminates irrational competitiors. There were a nubmer of pooerly managed institutions and poorly made financial decisions during the real estate boom. It is important that any rules post "rescue" punish the poorly run institutions and not punish the well run companies."

Finally, he adds an observation that expresses a conern that I have shared from the beginning, which has led them into missteps and unintended consequences already:

The primary beneficiaries of the proposed rescue are Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley. The Treasury has a number of smart individuals, including Hank Paulson. However, Treasury is totally dominated by Wall Street investment bankers. They do not have knowledge of the commercial banking industry. Therefore, they can not be relied on to objectively assess all the implications of government policy on all financial intermediaries. The deicison to protect the money funds is a clear example of amaterial lack of insight into the risk to the total financial system.

In fact, the community bankers mentioned above tend to vacation at the Jersey Shore rather than the Hamptons, and fly commercial rather than charter, so Mr. Paulson may not actually have had the opportunity to speak with them about the bailout. (Sorry, I couldn't resist at least one dig.)

Finally, the Austrian economics community is having a field day with the bailout. Steve Horwitz observes "Competition sucks if you're one of the competitors" and that what is good for Wall Street is not necessarily good for the economy as a whole. Crony capitalists, Horwitz argues, crave stability (especially when that allows them to keep gains and socialize losses) rather than dyanamism.

Peter Klein comments on the underlying monetary causes and the inevitability of market correction in "What would Hayek say?"

And Larry White adds : "Capitalism in which AIG never closes down is like American Idol in which Sanjaya never goes home."

Finally, the best line of the night last night (that I saw) went to Congressman Ron Kind who said that phone calls to his office were "running 50-50--50% 'No' and 50% 'Hell No.'"

Let's see what fun today brings.

Hoosier:
The bailouts are like that block of flats from Monty Python's Flying Circus that was built using only magic: If the residents express doubts, it falls down.

Keep thinking happy thoughts.
9.26.2008 11:26am
deathsinger:
There was a TV commercial last year making fun of a bank that only cares about big business. Someone should modify that commercial to change it from some big bank to Congress.

How much lobbying do the small institutions actually do...

When in doubt, follow the money...
9.26.2008 11:42am
Jim Hu:
Meltzer was on NPR remarking that the credit crunch is mostly leading to an inability to borrow for takeovers and purchase of toxic securities, not an inability to borrow for other things.
9.26.2008 11:45am
common sense (www):
I think this is why there was a rush for the bailout- the more people learn about the situation, the less support there is for the bailout. Here's hoping it never gets done.
9.26.2008 11:46am
John425:
I've got it all figured out. The institutions conspicuously missing from the equation are the not-for-profits. I propose letting the Catholic Church buy WaMu, the Mormons can take over AIG and the Southern Baptists...well, you get the point.
9.26.2008 12:00pm
Spitzer:
What are economists saying about the Cantor alternative plan? Personally, I find the prospect of handling this business by providing govt insurance to all MBS, to be paid for in high insurance premiums paid for by MBS holders to be superior to a direct buy-out of toxic shares. First, many - most, even - MBS shares are going to be just fine. Shares in classes containing "senior" tranches are largely unaffected by the default mess because, by definition, the defaults are affecting junior classes only (MBS shares are based on classes that contain a variety of tranches from a given set of mortgages, and the tranches are arranged chronologically (i.e. junior tranches receive money from the earliest-payoff mortgages, while seniors represent the last mortgages to be paid off/closed in a given set) - while many classes contain a variety of junior and senior tranches, the seniors essentially hedge the juniors - I have to simplify in this discussion because there's a lot of variety of structures, but suffice it to say that the juniors are the riskiest ones right now, and the seniors are the safest, and classes containing a mix of the two will have greater or lesser risk depending on the mix). As such, even if the present "irrational" situation causes all MBS shares to lose (unrealized) value, the real value of the senior shares will be restored quickly. Thus, there is a large pool of good-and-bad shares to be insured, and spreading the cost out among all shares reduces the per-insured share premium. Second, by using the private investors' own money to insure their MBS, we use less taxpayer money. Third, this means that the government wouldn't have to enter into complex arrangements to buy toxic shares, or to enter dangerous arrangements to hold equity in companies that participate in the scheme. Fourth, the cost of buying the toxic shares will be high, but investors will likely not sell their senior shares (expecting them to be restored in value once the juniors are dumped). Thus, a buyout of the toxic shares not only will remove bad assets from company books, but they will be left in position to profit tremendously once the market is restored to normalcy. Finally, insurance premiums will be expensive, but guaranteeing all shares means that a market for shares will be restored (and companies doing mark-to-market will not have to mark the assets to near-zero).

All in all, the insurance idea sounds far superior to the direct buyback. Have economists weighed in?
9.26.2008 12:14pm
ed (mail) (www):
Hmmm.

Anybody read about the 20% of any profits made will go into a Democratic political slush fund that funds ACORN?

Frankly the more I read about this bailout, the less I like it.
9.26.2008 12:15pm
John T. (mail):
Fitzgerald, a former senator from Illinois whose family has been in the banking business for generations,


And the guy that Sen. Obama replaced. (Not beat, as he didn't run for re-election.)
9.26.2008 12:16pm
Christopher Cooke (mail):
I am glad Professor Zywicki is taking advice from "Austrian economists." That country is a well-known economic powerhouse and bastion of thriving, free-market capitalism. Is Austria's economy as big as Oregon's yet? And, what do Luxembourg economists have to say about the bailout?
9.26.2008 12:27pm
darelf:
Thank you for finally pointing out that this is not a "crisis" for anyone except high-risk investors.

Yeah, maybe people got persuaded to put their money into securities that were too risky, but such is life. If your 401(k) or MM or whatever is invested in one of these risky vehicles, guess what? It's your fault. Cry about it for a while, get up, dry your eyes and go make better decisions.
9.26.2008 12:30pm
ShelbyC:

I am glad Professor Zywicki is taking advice from "Austrian economists." That country is a well-known economic powerhouse and bastion of thriving, free-market capitalism. Is Austria's economy as big as Oregon's yet? And, what do Luxembourg economists have to say about the bailout?


Ummm..... Errr....
9.26.2008 12:36pm
David Warner:
Christoper Cooke:

"I am glad Professor Zywicki is taking advice from "Austrian economists." That country is a well-known economic powerhouse and bastion of thriving, free-market capitalism. Is Austria's economy as big as Oregon's yet? And, what do Luxembourg economists have to say about the bailout?"

Good point. In other news, it's only $700,000,000,000 if one uses Arabic numerals, and how many Nobels have the Arabs won lately?
9.26.2008 12:44pm
js (mail):
I mean, Hayek was Austrian. But i suppose he should never be mentioned again because he's not from the U.S. So there's that.

And what's up with the Washington Post today. They acknowledged in their editorial the troops have to stay in Iraq and they are essentially arguing against the bailout. Maybe they aren't as consistently liberal as previously thought?
9.26.2008 12:44pm
Hoosier:
ShelbyC--Thanks for saving me the trouble.
9.26.2008 12:45pm
Mark Rockwell (mail):
I was for the bailout before I was against it.
9.26.2008 12:50pm
Houston Lawyer:
ACORN?

Why don't we just give the money straight to the Obama campaign? I'm now officially against this bailout.

In addition, Paulson should be fired today for begging Pelosi on bended knee. He is clearly in a panic and we need someone who is not.
9.26.2008 12:55pm
deepthought:
News Flash:

McCain will go to debate--puts politics in front of country.
9.26.2008 1:30pm
Charlie (Colorado) (mail):
Dude, go back to "42". That was working much better for you.
9.26.2008 1:42pm
khamburger (mail):
I am glad Professor Zywicki is taking advice from "Austrian economists." That country is a well-known economic powerhouse and bastion of thriving, free-market capitalism. Is Austria's economy as big as Oregon's yet? And, what do Luxembourg economists have to say about the bailout?


Well, let's see. Chicago economists are from a city. Keynesian economists are just one person. Seems to me that a country beats a city or an individual.

Now, I know some have commented a bit tongue in cheek on the above but I do know that there will be some reading this that got all of their education from government schools and keep that updated through the mass media. Therefore some real education may need to take place here. The Austrian School of Economics is so named because it's founders, Menger, von Mises, Bohm-Bawerk and Hayek were from, trained and studied in Austria. von Mises later emigrated to the US and Hayek to Britain. Later Austrian economists came from throughout the world and drew on numerous sources beyond the original works.
9.26.2008 2:04pm
English Bob:
Poor Christopher Cooke. He probably thought that comment about Austria was really clever. And it probably took him ages to write it. Having everyone find out how stupid you are is never fun. Believe me: I know!
9.26.2008 3:35pm
Winterset:
@kHamburger:

Thanks for explaining that "Austrian Economics" is a school of economic philosophy as opposed to the kind of economics that are going on in Austria. It's nice to even hear the term in an article, but even nicer to know there are people who understand the term.

In case anyone might be having questions about Austrian Economics or how it might be considered valid, try checking out www.lewrockwell.com and/or www.mises.org. You won't regret it.
9.26.2008 4:05pm
Sagar (mail):
There was an article on WSJ today that floated a plan of "preferred share" purchase in troubled banks, kind of like how Warren Buffet bought $5B of Goldman and how Govt got into AIG (and may be Fannie and Freddie too). That seems less frought with all this oversight, favoritism, and political corruption.

Taxpayers will risk less compared to the "bailout"

Thoughts?
9.26.2008 5:38pm
ticker:
Latest polling from the Associated Press-Knowledge Networks, conducted last night: 45% oppose the bailout, while only 30% are in favor. The margin of error is less than 4% for all voting-age adults.

The biggist opposition is from independents: 49% opposition with only 7% percent support. However, there is a 12% margin of error in the polling of independents.

Also see the AP story on the poll.
9.26.2008 6:00pm