Can Sen. Stevens Vote for Himself?

The Politico raises the question of whether Senator Ted Stevens, now that he is a convicted felon, can vote for his own reelection to the U.S. Senate. Under Alaska law, those convicted of a felony involving moral turpitude are disenfranchised. So, it seems, whether Stevens can vote depends on a) whether making false statements constitutes a crime involving moral turpitude, and b) whether the disenfranchisement becomes effective upon conviction, or only after sentencing and entry of the judgment. Another wrinkle, The Politico notes, is that Senator Stevens may have already voted absentee because he's been stuck in D.C. for his own trial.

Meanwhile, Rick Hasen notes that were Senator Stevens to resign, Governor Palin would appoint a successor. Were Stevens to resign after the election — say, in January — Palin would still pick a replacement, but would also have to call a special election to fill out the remainder of the full Senate term. As for what if Sen. Stevens were to withdraw from the race (fat chance), Alaska law appears to be silent about how to deal with a candidate's withdrawal so close to the election.

UPDATE: More from Rick Hasen here, including a potential constitutional wrinkle in Alaska's rules for filling Senate vacancies.

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RPT (mail):
Looks like a key decision moment for a self-professed reformer. What will Palin do?
10.28.2008 12:06pm
Private Defender:
I disagree with your proposition that a "conviction" is distinct from a "judgment". The Judgment is the conviction. A Judgment of Conviction must include the terms of the sentences imposed. Fed. R. Crim. P. 32(k). Even in cases where there is a guilty plea, a person is not considered "convicted" until sentencing. β€œIt is the judgment of the court – not the plea – that constitutes the determination of guilt.” Lott v. United States, 367 U.S. 421 (1961).
10.28.2008 12:10pm
Bama 1L:
Something mavericky.
10.28.2008 12:10pm
da.happy.one (mail):
What a question? The way things seems to be going, he might even get re-elected and serve from jail(if he is sentenced). It happens in India! We live in a "Global Village". Right?
10.28.2008 12:18pm
Oren:
If he sent in his absentee ballot the morning before the verdict, I think he's in the clear.
10.28.2008 12:27pm
jonzyx (mail):
I have not researched this any, but I was listening to the Diane Rehm show this morning and heard a commentator say that Alaska changed the law regarding interim appointments after Murkowski appointed his daughter to the senate. Per the commentator, if Stevens is elected, then there will be a special election called. I think it was 90 days after the election, but I might have misunderstood that part.
10.28.2008 12:28pm
Patrick Wright (mail):
New Jersey law was silent too - yet this occurred:

Lautenberg for Torricelli after the deadline
10.28.2008 12:28pm
A.S.:
As for what if Sen. Stevens were to withdraw from the race (fat chance), Alaska law appears to be silent about how to deal with a candidate's withdrawal so close to the election.

I would say that, under the Torricelli precedent, the Alaska Republicans should be permitted to replace him with a handpicked candidate, despite what any statute may say. The New Jersey Supreme Court held:
the Court being of the view that
[it] is in the public interest and the
general intent of the election laws to
preserve the two-party system and to submit
to the electorate a ballot bearing the names
of candidates of both major political
parties as well as of all other qualifying
parties and groups.

Kilmurray v. Gilfert, 10 N.J. 435, 441 (1952);
And the Court remaining of the view that the election
statutes should be liberally construed

to allow the greatest scope for public
participation in the electoral process, to
allow candidates to get on the ballot, to
allow parties to put their candidates on the
ballot, and most importantly, to allow the
voters a choice on Election Day.

Catania v. Haberle, 123 N.J. 438, 448;

the Democratic Party could replace Sen. Torricelli on the ballot despite his withdrawal after the statutory deadline for replacing candidates on the ballot.

OF course, that's a Democrat. Where Democrats are involved, we ought to liberally construe the law in order to permit Democrats to have the best chance possible to win the election. OTOH, where Republicans are involved, we ought to make sure that the laws are strictly construed to ensure that Democrats to have the best chance possible to win the election.
10.28.2008 12:29pm
Mhoram:
As far as moral turpitude, I can't see any way that making false statements is not moral turpitude.

At least in Georgia all felonies are crimes of moral turpitude, and misdemeanors involving crimen falsi are also crimes of moral turpitude.
10.28.2008 12:31pm
Alexia:
Could Palin appoint herself?
10.28.2008 12:32pm
Obvious (mail):
Just because Senator Stevens has been found guilty of seven felonies, I don't see why you have to pile on by further suggesting his moral compass is so debased that he would actually vote for Ted Stevens for US Senate?
10.28.2008 12:35pm
PatHMV (mail) (www):
Well, Gov. Palin can't actually do anything yet, because he hasn't resigned his seat or withdrawn from the election. When she ran for governor, she did so against the wishes of the GOP "establishment" in Alaska, including Sen. Stevens. Once Steven actually does something to remove himself from the seat or the race, THEN you can ask what Gov. Palin will do.
10.28.2008 12:39pm
PLF (mail):
Alexia:

Could Palin appoint herself?

What -- and by so doing qualify herself to be elected President after only 2 years?

Pete
10.28.2008 12:40pm
Matthew K:

Just because Senator Stevens has been found guilty of seven felonies, I don't see why you have to pile on by further suggesting his moral compass is so debased that he would actually vote for Ted Stevens for US Senate?


:) I like.

As for replacing him on the ballot: I'd have supported such an effort as recently as a few weeks ago, but the election is only a week from today. It's a tad late now. If the Republicans want to run a "he'll resign immediately and then we can elect a real Senator" campaign, however, they're welcome to try.
10.28.2008 12:43pm
Cornellian (mail):

What -- and by so doing qualify herself to be elected President after only 2 years?


I think it will take longer than that before she's ready to handle such tough questions as "what newspapers and magazines do you read."
10.28.2008 12:44pm
LA denzien:
If we let these idiots vote, then why not Senator Stevens?

(Yes, they have a 1A right to be idiots, but if the parties were reversed I guarantee you it would have been taken down by the police, 1A be damned)
10.28.2008 12:52pm
Anderson (mail):
Could Palin appoint herself?

Mavericky! You betcha!

--But of course, Palin shuns anything that even hints of impropriety or abuse of power.
10.28.2008 1:14pm
LA denzien:
Also, these idiots can apparently still vote, but hopefully not for long.
10.28.2008 1:14pm
Calculated Risk:
A.S.

Would you consider yourself to be a cynical person?
10.28.2008 1:17pm
Anderson (mail):
Where Democrats are involved, we ought to liberally construe the law in order to permit Democrats to have the best chance possible to win the election.

Glad to see the mind-control rays are reaching you at last, A.S.

Perhaps Overlord Xinos IV will deem you a worthy replacement for Joe Lieberman.
10.28.2008 1:19pm
Opher Banarie (mail) (www):
Stevens should contact the local ACORN office - they will register him several times in different states so that he can vote regardless of Alaska law.
10.28.2008 1:37pm
alkali (mail):
1) I am a Democrat, and I would be fine with the Republicans replacing Stevens on the ballot if he stepped aside. The New Jersey court was correct in the Torricelli case: where the statutory law is silent or hopelessly unclear, courts ought to default to providing the voters with a choice in the election. (It wouldn't be great for Mark Begich's chances if that happened, but that's another matter.)

2) Unrelatedly, it is continually surprising to me that election laws aren't clearly written to address the most obvious contigencies. Setting aside all the partisan nonsense about Florida in 2000, it is patently obvious that no one looked at the law ex ante and said, "Ithe presidential election were close in this state, what would happen next?" Similarly, in Alaska, you would think that there would be something in the statute that addressed the withdrawal or incapacity of a candidate close to the election, but I guess not. Has anyone explored why there seems to be this systematic deficit in election law?
10.28.2008 1:39pm
Patrick Wright (mail):
Alkali,

I think as a matter of policy that election laws should allow for exchanges of candidates only up to a certain time within an election - once an absentee or military ballot has been filed the electors would be stuck with those candidates. What rankled about NJ and would rankle about a late switch in Alaska is the concept of a political party being able to substitute in a better candidate when their first candidate is likely to lose. Torricelli was polling bad due to ethical problems, and his political party had a one vote lead in the United States Senate that they wanted to protect. If a court is not going to enforce a statutory filing deadline, then what guideposts are there? Can any party substitute a poorly performing candidate at any time? Why did 4 weeks work? Would 1 week work? With early voting, how many previously cast votes can be disregarded? Where would the courts be getting their standards in the absence of a statute? The type of ruling allowing for post-deadline switches clearly draws courts into political conflicts where the courts' neutrality can reasonably be questioned.
10.28.2008 1:52pm
Nunzio:
Why don't the people of Alaska just vote for the Democrat candidate and send Stevens' packing? It would reflect very poorly on the Alaska voters if Stevens wins.
10.28.2008 1:57pm
Cornellian (mail):
Another wrinkle, The Politico notes, is that Senator Stevens may have already voted absentee because he's been stuck in D.C. for his own trial.

There's not really any way to avoid this scenario. You'd have the same situation where a guy is on trial on election day, votes in the election, the gets convicted the next day.
10.28.2008 2:04pm
Cornellian (mail):
Why don't the people of Alaska just vote for the Democrat candidate and send Stevens' packing? It would reflect very poorly on the Alaska voters if Stevens wins.

According to the polls, the race was a dead heat before Stevens was convicted and the election is now just a week away. Very little time for Stevens to turn things around, even assuming he remains at liberty to do so pending sentencing. McCain and Palin have both thrown him overboard as well so I wouldn't give Stevens much of a chance on election day.
10.28.2008 2:06pm
Doc (mail):
Does anyone really think that Stevens is not going to appeal this conviction? From following the case closely, it appears there has been prosecutorial misconduct. How do all these options pan out if he appeals?
10.28.2008 2:25pm
Nunzio:
Doc,

He's going to get a Christmas Eve pardon from W. That's his appeal.

The trial judge bent over backward for Stevens with regard to the prosecutorial misconduct with very favorable jury instructions and the jury still convicted him.

Apparently the jury foolishly thought that a man with a Harvard law degree and 40 years in the Senate would have perhaps some inkling of an idea that a "chalet" (Stevens' term) worthy of being profiled on MTV's Cribs cost a lot more to trick out than Stevens claimed. Plus, the jury probably didn't like the fact that the guy tried to blame his wife for everything (nice defense strategy).

The guy's a scumbag that the jury saw through. My only question is why isn't the press hounding Colin Powell for being a character witness for this guy. Either Powell is an idiot or he perjured himself.
10.28.2008 2:32pm
Snaphappy:

There's not really any way to avoid this scenario. You'd have the same situation where a guy is on trial on election day, votes in the election, the gets convicted the next day.


No, there is nothing in the Alaska law that retroactively disenfranchises a felon from voting in completed elections. Here, we have a (potentially) disenfranchised person whose vote may be counted in an election that is still a week away. The question is whether, if Stevens voted absentee, he is voting in the upcoming election despite the fact that he's no longer permitted to do so, or has he already voted, perfectly legally, in that same election?

I think the latter. It would be the same as if the jury deliberated for another week, and Stevens voted Tuesday morning but then the verdict came down Tuesday afternoon before the polls close. Stevens (if he voted absentee and if he is disenfranchised) already voted in the election. He would now be prohibited, but he's already prohibited from voting at this point because he already voted.
10.28.2008 2:34pm
A.S.:
A.S.

Would you consider yourself to be a cynical person?


Cynical? Naaaah. Realistic, I'd call it.
10.28.2008 2:39pm
Anderson (mail):
It would reflect very poorly on the Alaska voters if Stevens wins.

That is Outsider thinking.
10.28.2008 2:40pm
alkali (mail):
Patrick Wright: I think you and I agree that (i) it would be much, much better to have the withdrawal contingency expressly dealt with in the election laws, and (ii) it would probably be a good idea for many reasons for the election statutes to set a "point of no return" on taking a candidate's name off the ballot. That said, in the absence of any such specific provision, I think the NJ court made the right call.
10.28.2008 2:43pm
A.S.:
Glad to see the mind-control rays are reaching you at last, A.S.

Doubtful, Anderson. I have been assured that this tin foil I am wearing prevents the mind control rays from reaching me.
10.28.2008 2:44pm
AKS:
I published a Comment while I was in law school on the issue of convicted felons running for office. I got interested when James Traficant of Ohio, who was convicted on federal corruption charges and expelled from the House, ran for Congress again from his jail cell and got about 15% of the vote. Whether he could have taken his seat if elected was an interesting question.
10.28.2008 3:11pm
Skyler (mail) (www):
More interesting to me is that if he is in prison and still a Senator, can he travel to DC to vote without being stopped by his jailors?
10.28.2008 3:24pm
Anon21:
Were Stevens to resign after the election -- say, in January -- Palin would still pick a replacement, but would also have to call a special election to fill out the remainder of the full Senate term.

What do you mean "the full Senate term"? I assume we agree that if Begich wins the election in a week, he will take office as Alaska's junior Senator in January? It would be exceedingly strange to call a special election to fill a Senate seat for two and a half months, at which point the winner of the special election would yield to Begich. Why would Stevens bother to resign in such a situation? Why would anyone want him to?
10.28.2008 3:25pm
Skyler (mail) (www):
And even more interesting is if Collin Powell says that Stevens is such a principled and respectable man, what does this say about his endorsement of B. Hussein Obama?
10.28.2008 3:25pm
gerbilsbite:
Sorry, have we settled that it's Palin's call? I think that issue is still in question.
10.28.2008 3:29pm
Latinist:
Wait, there's one other possibility, I think: Stevens could win the election, then resign in, say, February, after Palin has (hypothetically) already been inaugurated as Vice President. Then her replacement would have to choose Stevens' replacement (and hold a special election), yes? How often does that happen?
10.28.2008 3:52pm
Bill Kilgore:
My only question is why isn't the press hounding Colin Powell for being a character witness for this guy.

If you honestly have to ask this question, there's a good chance you were the juror that Stevens was looking for.
10.28.2008 4:33pm
Redlands (mail):
Wait until his appellate rights run?
10.28.2008 5:01pm
DiverDan (mail):
Hey, if he does vote, he certainly won't be the only convicted felon voting in this election -- although, assuming he votes Republican, that ought to put him in a mighty small minority of all voting convicted felons.
10.28.2008 6:22pm
Public_Defender (mail):
I think Private Defender got it right in the second comment, complete with citations. A jury's verdict is not a conviction until the judge enters a judgment entry of sentence. Therefore, Stevens can vote.
10.28.2008 7:31pm
sookie (mail):
In this particular case wouldn't he have to have been sentenced first? I doubt it's likely but it is possible the Judge could set aside the verdict isn't it? If that happens then no conviction, or is this inaccurate?
10.28.2008 7:35pm
markm (mail):
What's the standard of proof for moral turpitude? If losing his right to vote is considered a sentence enhancement, wouldn't the standard be something like preponderance of evidence, rather than beyond a reasonable doubt. And by that standard

...

here is indisputable documentary evidence that the defendant is a member of Congress...
10.28.2008 7:56pm
Dave N (mail):
It is pretty clear that Senator Stevens can vote--since, as Private Defender noted, it is the judgment of conviction and not the verdict that makes someone a felon.

With respect to Skyler's 2:25 p.m. comment, Senator Stevens has not been jailed pending sentencing--and from what I read, there is a distinct possibility he will not receive a prison sentence at all.

Should Senator Stevens be re-elected and then resign, Alaska law requires a special election (thanks to Frank Murkowski's shenanigans when he appointed his daughter to succeed him).

Frankly, I suspect that Nick Begich will defeat Senator Stevens now--a sad end to the career of the man who had been Alaska's pre-eminent politician--even if he is also an arrogant jackass.
10.28.2008 8:48pm
Oren:

Frankly, I suspect that Nick Begich will defeat Senator Stevens now--a sad end to the career of the man who had been Alaska's pre-eminent politician--even if he is also an arrogant jackass.

Nate at 538 had the race basically tied before the conviction, so it's hard to imagine another outcome at this point.

Then again, Alaska is so far west that it's hard to tell how the outcome of the eastern seaboard races (where polls will have been closed for hours while AK is still voting) will effect the race.
10.28.2008 8:57pm
Bill Dyer (mail) (www):
The distinction that Public Defender, Private Defender and Dave N point out -- that a verdict is just a verdict, whereas the conviction comes from the written judgment -- is not just a technical and theoretical one.

Any lawyer anywhere with even a modest understanding of trial practice knows that judges often deny mid-trial mistrial motions — as this judge did repeatedly after several major prosecution blunders — knowing full well that (a) a not guilty verdict may moot those mistrial issues before they're raised anew as new trial and appellate arguments, and that (b) he'll have another chance, before ruling on the new trial motion and entering the judgment of conviction, to reconsider the alleged mid-trial errors in the light of the entire trial record and after less pressured deliberation.

I still think it's likely that the judge will adhere to his trial rulings -- as most trial judges do, most of the time -- and that he'll deny the motion for new trial and enter a judgment of conviction based on the verdict. But that's far from a foregone conclusion, and Brendan Sullivan and his team are not potted plants.

Ted Stevens today stands having been "found guilty" by a jury, but not yet having been "convicted" by the court — and that's a distinction with enormous significance, not just a matter of legal niceties.

Why in the world people who ought to know better are treating this as a close question or an open question, I can't understand.
10.28.2008 9:23pm
Bill Dyer (mail) (www):
And by the way, Hasen has up another post quoting a top-of-the-head (but well-informed) opinion from Vik Amar, which boils down to saying that the voter initiative which amended the Alaska Constitution to change the resignation/appointment/special election protocols is probably okay.
10.28.2008 9:42pm
J. Aldridge:
What are Stevens chances on appeal?
10.28.2008 10:40pm
PersonFromPorlock:
I don't seem to be able to find a quick cite, but wasn't Brunner's position in Ohio that election observers could be barred from poling places during early voting because the voters weren't voting, just recording their future votes? And didn't a federal court agree? That would seem to have some relevance to Stevens's putative absentee ballot.

Or am I having a senior moment?
10.28.2008 10:50pm
Dave N (mail):
What are Stevens chances on appeal?
Not good. Most criminal defendants are unsuccessful. On the other handm he has some very expensive attorneys who will be scouring the record looking issues.

Bottom line: not good but better than someone represented by an overworked public defender.
10.28.2008 11:03pm
Dave N (mail):
Preview is your friend (let me try again):
What are Stevens chances on appeal?

Not good. Most criminal defendants are unsuccessful. On the other hand, he has some very expensive attorneys who will be scouring the record looking for issues.

Bottom line: not good but better than someone represented by an overworked public defender.
10.28.2008 11:10pm
Skyler (mail) (www):

What are Stevens chances on appeal?

Not good. Most criminal defendants are unsuccessful. On the other hand, he has some very expensive attorneys who will be scouring the record looking for issues.



And he's had a big role, I'm sure, in getting those judges in the position that they're in.

I'll go back to my hypothetical question, if Stevens is convicted and reelected and gets thrown in the hoosegow and is not ejected by that forum (yes, lots of if's) can he still travel freely to the Senate chambers to vote there? The Constitution clearly says yes, but I wonder if this has ever been tested to that extreme.
10.28.2008 11:57pm
kiniyakki (mail):
A.S.,


Where Democrats are involved, we ought to liberally construe the law in order to permit Democrats to have the best chance possible to win the election. OTOH, where Republicans are involved, we ought to make sure that the laws are strictly construed to ensure that Democrats to have the best chance possible to win the election.



Would have been better if you had said ...


Where Democrats are involved, we ought to liberally construe the law in order to permit Democrats to have the best chance possible to win the election as a living document that changes to reflect the values of society. OTOH, where Republicans are involved, we ought to make sure that the laws are strictly construed to ensure that Democrats to have the best chance possible to win the election according to the original understanding of the framers of the statute.
10.29.2008 1:09am
eyesay:
Re Democrats, Republicans, and how laws are construed: In Florida in 2000, in Republican precincts, overseas military ballots that were actually cast after election day were counted, but in Democratic precincts, overseas military ballots that were actually cast after election day were not counted. Yet another way that the election of 2000 was stolen from Al Gore and the American People.
10.29.2008 4:39am
Public_Defender (mail):

Bottom line: not good but better than someone represented by an overworked public defender.

Hey! Most of the best appellate advocates in my state are public defenders. All too often, my job is to clean up some giant mess left by private counsel. And do you want someone who steps in front of an appellate panel every few years or every few weeks? That said, Stevens picked one of the best firms to do his trial work. He'll probably pick a good one to do his appeal.

As to the chances of victory, odds are generally against the appellant, but we have no idea about Stevens' specific case. Unless you followed every objection, you just can't say.
10.29.2008 7:05am
Public_Defender (mail):
On the issue of resignation, often public officials cling to their jobs as long as possible. You really need income when you are facing criminal charges.
10.29.2008 8:27am