In a prior post, I suggested some of the changes in party dominance of American institutions that are likely to result if (as fully expected) the Democrats win today.
What we are unlikely to see over the next four years is progress on serious defects in the press and the electoral process that this election revealed.
It is ironic that in 2008 we probably have two of the most honest and decent men running for president that we have had in a long time, and yet this has easily been the most corrupt election in my lifetime.
First, we have never had so many illegal campaign contributions, including illegal foreign contributions, as we had this year.
Second, (in my lifetime at least) we have never had so much systematic election fraud; that the tens — or more likely hundreds — of thousands of illegal voter registrations have not been a major campaign issue is appalling – and it’s worrisome for our democracy.
Unfortunately, (as everyone knows by now) Obama has long ties to ACORN and its affiliated groups (as a trainer of staff, as their lawyer, as a foundation board member voting them funds, as the proponent of federal legislation allowing them to receive millions in federal funds, and as the head of a presidential campaign hiring them for services to the campaign). I would hope that the new president would bring a RICO action going after the most corrupt national political organization to surface in my lifetime. I won't be holding my breath.
Last, the press’s performance in 2008 has been appalling. Unfortunately, we have a mediated democracy, mediated by the press. Until the newsrooms are integrated politically, it is difficult for citizens to get the information they need to make informed decisions.
I hope that the voting today is not so close that it was likely determined by voter fraud or tens of millions of dollars in illegal campaign contributions. As to what the election would have looked like with a fair — that is, evenly biased — press, that is a counterfactual about which we probably don’t have enough information even to make an informed guess.
UPDATE: Jonathan Adler disagrees with me, and Orin Kerr chimes in as well. Unfortunately, they don't offer any good reasons for doubting my claims, other than increased press coverage. In a new long post, I support my claims with both evidence and argument and ask Jonathan to do the same.
The fix was in from the beginning. Other than that, coverage was well.
Your "evidence" (and I'm really, really using the term loosely) for unprecedented foreign contributions is some guy in Spain who says he got e-mails from the Obama campaign? The same mass e-mails automatically generated and sent to all the e-mails on their list? That's it? We need to overhaul the election system because some Spanish guy's e-mail address ended up on a campaign distribution list? You don't think clicking "unsubscribe" would solve that problem?
If the race comes down to PA, and PA is decided by less than 1% (especially if less than 10K votes), the real crisis begins.
In Michigan, for example, we were told in October that 98% of the eligible popultion had registered. This is simply quite unlikely or there is a wave of civic-mindedness heretofore undetected.
If I were a cynic I'd say that the registration problem, and for that matter dumping armed forces votes in Virginia, would be a vital national issue if Republicans were doing it. If they had it should have been but same for both sides.
As for the press, even if one buys the claim that the MSM has a leftward bias, there is a vast right-slanted segment of the mass media, ranging from Fox to Rush Limbaugh. Moreover, blogs and other internet sources are increasingly important and range all over the political map.
As for your claim that this election has had the greatest amount of "systematic election fraud" of all time, you've offered nothing substantial in support of that outlandish claim. The few examples in the post you link to are of registration fraud, not vote fraud. What's appalling is that registration is so difficult and cumbersome in this country. Registration should be near-automatic. Why aren't we registered during the census, for instance, or when we file tax returns? Any fake people who are registered won't show up at the polls with proper identification anyway. If you think the few examples you provide represent the greatest electoral fraud in our nation's history, you might want to read some books before making outlandish claims.
What do you suggest?
Prof Lindgren:
How in the world can you work professionally as an "empiricist" if you make such silly and unfounded hyperbolic allegations for which you have no evidence.
None of the "information" in Reynolds' screed shows that any "fraudulent" votes have been cast or counted, or that any "illegal contributions" in any amount, much less "tens of millions of dollars". Really, is there any connection to reality here, or is this just flaming rhetoric? Is this what we have to look forward to if Obama wins? Allegations which are known to be false, or made with a conscious disregard for truth or falsity, i.e., actual malice? Where is the professionalism?
On the bright side, it is plausible that the New Regime will decriminalize the agricultural product that you apparently have been enjoying.
Obviously another hack job by Lindgren on behalf of the democrats -- What? He said McCain was honest and decent, too?
How the heck am I supposed to make you look like a hack if you're going to be reasonable?
I seem to recall that the Democratic Party has long favored "motor voter" and other modes of indirect voter registration, which would very likely cover 99% of the voting-eligible population.
But the Republicans typically oppose that.
And then we're supposed to get upset about ACORN?
Here's my acronym in response: GMAFB.
I'm trying to imagine what he would do if the election came down to one state that happened to be governed by Obama's brother, and if the Supreme Court made a critical ruling that it explicitly marked as unfit for precedent for future cases. Why, his head might explode!
Fortunately Obama is on pace for over 300 electoral votes. Sad sad wingnuts.
I signed a petition to put Ron Paul on the ballot in VA. The guy collecting the signatures didn't ask to see any ID and has no idea if I put my right name down or not. Even if he had proof that I had used a fraudulent name, he would not be allowed to strike it from the petition. I collected signatures for John Anderson years ago; if someone had signed "Mickey Mouse" on the petition, there was nothing the Anderson campaign could have done about it other than not turn in that petition, which would have meant all the legit signatures wouldn't be counted.
Prof. Lindgren, you have written about this a lot, but I have never seen you say what you thought ACORN should do when it found a bad signature. What would you have done with a petition that had, say 25 legit names on it and 25 obvious phonies?
Yes. John McCain and Alan Keyes are decent and honest men.
However, Barack Obama is not. He is a Chicago street thugh politician. He consorted with anti-American terrorists and radicals and then lied about it. He went to a racist anti-American church for 20 years and fit right in, and lied about it. He uses thug tactics to intimidate and silence critics. He filed complaints with the DOJ to silence political advertising he doesn't like. He accepts fraudulent campaign contributions and refuses to take even minimal steps to ensure that the donations are legal. He said people who wear flag lapel pins are fake patriots. His campaign frequently labels any sort of criticism as racism. Those are not the actions of an honorable man. They are the actions of a tyrant.
If only there were some non-partisan poll watching group to help out.
hgb
Too late. Alberto Gonzales has already left the Justice Dept.
Reverse the party involved and then rethink it.
Remember the reports that in Milwaukee in 2004 they ran out of ballots because there were so many more votes cast than there were people registered to vote. Remember the reports in Detroit that many precincts had over 90% turnouts (it appears that the workers just filled in ballots for those who hadn't shown up yet). In 2000, in NM, a statewide candidate worked for INS (and thus had access to immigration lists). In that election, according to (unconfirmed) online reports at the time, Democrats sent out ID cards to legal aliens who had applied for citizenship, encouraging them to vote. While one will never know, it is quite possible that was the difference for Gore in that state, which he was losing until a cache of ballots was discovered a day or two after the election.
There is nothing inconsistent with voting enthusiastically for Obama and actually caring about voter fraud.
More like an unprecedented volume of allegations of voter fraud in a preemptive attack on the legitimacy of an undesired election result.
Last, the press’s performance in 2008 has been appalling. Unfortunately, we have a mediated democracy, mediated by the press. Until the newsrooms are integrated politically, it is difficult for citizens to get the information they need to make informed decisions.
Politicians have whined about biased media for as long as we have had the media and Republicans in particular have whined about the "liberal media" (or, more recently, "liberal media elites") for every single election in my lifetime. I don't see this election as being any different.
Second, I would like hope we have some kind of Muslim reform in this election, where candidates come clean about their Muslimness. I think everyone can agree with this nonpartisan recommendation.
I'm not Prof Lindgren, but I'll respond. ACORN should change their incentives such that they don't pay their field workers for fraudulent registrations.
A very simple change (they already are screening for bogus registrations, right?) that would align their field worker's incentives with what ACORN claims to want (registering voters). They'd receive a better work product and probably save money at the same time.
The fact that they continue to pay field workers for fraudulent signatures (remember, this didn't start this year) says that they value the bogus registrations - revealed preference and all that. Do you have an innocent explanation for why they would value bogus registrations?
You must be thinking about when Obama's earlier campaign got his rivals eliminated from the ballot on technicalities. Or in his Senate race when his campaign got the sealed divorce records of his opponets released to the public. Or when he stayed in a 'hate' church that accused the US Government of infecting black men with AIDS. Yes, Obama, Good and Decent.
As humiliating it is to admit that I can't control my own wife, and that not only is she voting for Obama, she is sending him money, I think this incident illustrates what is going on in the Obama campaign. I don't blame Obama personally, other than not being able to control his staff, but there are going to be some prison sentences served. Did Obama recruit LaRouche staffers to man his online fund raising operation?
Your ridiculous partisanship makes Obama's extremely likely victory that much more sweet.
You mean like the 2000 election?
The evidence is scant because the Obama campaign personally ensured that it was scant. And you see no conflict of interest there, I bet.
Perhaps you could explain how they should do this. I understand they switched from piece rate to hourly rate for this purpose, but it hasn't seemed to have solved the problem.
Your superior solution is ...
I call BS on this claim. Take 2000 for example, there wasn't a big issue with Bush and Gore's indecency or dishonesty. Why are McCain and Obama considered most honest and decent. There are several examples to the contrary on each of them - just ask their opponents.
Be sure to read the comments, which make some good points.
Touting this nonsense, and the credit card issue, which has been amply explained by commenters on this site, among other places, is to label yourself a partisan hack.
I laughed out loud. Wonder what that person will say when, over the next 4 years I have a "He's not MY president" sticker on My car. Bet they won't like it. Bet they have lots of vile things to say about it.
We haven't all had those problems. It seems to be confined to a single political party.
Also, most honest candidates? I'm still waiting for something substantive to come from Obama that sounds honest, other than his disdain for someone who isn't running for President. He's changed his policies so often based on time and audience that I can't follow what he actually intends to do.
You must be joking. After McCain's amnesty bill went down in flames-- twice, he changed his spots and campaigned for border control. During the primaries he repeatedly promised that as president he would secure the borders first. But on Sunday, he let the cat out of the bag. In response to a question in New Hampshire, he reverted to the old amnesty-first McCain clearly showing the mendacious McCain we all know and don't love.
If Obama were Pinocchio, he would be a pole vaulting champion. "That's not the Tony Rezko I knew." "That's not the Reverend Wright I knew." Every time this guy gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar, he says "What cookie jar."
So much for the honest part.
It's completely telling that you just repeated vague claims, not actual evidence. It's been a few years - give us evidence, not just unsourced accounts of things you heard from a friend of a friend.
Our system of registering voters is just pathetic, I'll definitely give you that. If you're a citizen, you should be able to vote, and as a nation we need to spend the resources to make it happen correctly, everywhere.
God, that joke flyer never gets old.
Any person who falls for that flyer should be permanently barred from voting anyway.
I've made multiple contributions to the Obama campaign via their website. So has my wife. So have many of my friends. I haven't heard of one single instance of an inaccurate charge. So I'm guessing, based on my modestly wider pool of anecdotal evidence, that what happened to your wife was highly atypical.
Let's call it a draw this year. And give the Democrat party credit for gaming the system better than the GOP this go 'round.
By the way, anyone recall any posts about the shortage of voting machines in Democrat districts in Ohio in 2004? Fraud of another kind perhaps?
riiiggghht. like when keyes carpetbagged into illinois to challange obama, and actually took a slave reparations stance to improve his chances of winning?
and remember when john mcCain was pro-choice? and then, suddenly, before the election, he reverses his stance to get the republican nomination and better his chances of winning?
but yeah, except all that, perfectly "honest and decent".
hahaha, keep on poppin' the blue pills....
Yes. What it is telling, is that there's no effective way to detect or prove voter fraud. That is because voting is anonymous to a degree that registration is not.
Registration exists BECAUSE the controls on voting itself is insufficient. But your argument is predicated on the assumption that a corrupted registration pool is no big deal.
Perhaps you could explain how they should do this. I understand they switched from piece rate to hourly rate for this purpose, but it hasn't seemed to have solved the problem.
Your superior solution is ...
I thought I described it. Pay piece work for valid registrations. Field workers don't get paid for the bogus ones.
We've been told they flag the bogus ones, right? Give an advance based on those and claw back whatever gets rejected by the county clerk. It doesn't seem that difficult, and surely a whole lot saner than either paying piece work for any registration or paying hourly.
That is, if your goal is to maximize the number of valid registrations and minimize the number of invalid ones. But if you wanted invalid registrations, then ACORN's existing incentive structure is exactly right.
Where's the difficulty? What am I missing?
Exactly. Who is Shi Sheng Hao, why did Hao give McCain $70,000 on a single June day, on his way to contributing more than $120K to McCain and the RNC, and why does the man who answers the door at his supposed Chicago address insist Hao lives "overseas." From the Chicago Tribune story:
Before September 2007, Hao's name had never appeared in the 15-year-old federal database of campaign contributors. Since then, however, his donations have topped $120,000 — including $70,100 on a single June day to Republican presidential candidate John McCain.
Over the same time frame, a network of Hao relatives has kicked in more. The take from this group over the last 13 months exceeds $269,000, a small amount to Democrats but most of it to McCain and the Republican National Committee, records show.
Hao didn't register to vote at the northwest suburban address attached to his donations until October 2007, a month after he wrote his first political check, $25,000 to the RNC.
The circumstances surrounding Hao's sudden and prolific political activism are curious and his whereabouts unclear. His name isn't listed on property records or the mailbox at the unassuming tract home listed on his donations. Hao lives "overseas," insisted a man who answered the door at the Roselle home recently.
And Armen needs to look up the definition of "evidence."
People who claim there is not rampant election fraud should visit Watsonville, CA. A Mexican guy who has waited almost 15 years to become legal, by doing things the right way, was on the radio explaining how it works in Watsonville [and no doubt numerous other locations]:
The labor contractor hires through Mexican subcontractors, who in turn work with the local Democrats. Ag workers are registered to vote if they want work, their absentee ballots are collected, and *voila!* a few thousand more votes for your favorite spending initiative.
Ever since Motor Voter was passed in California, it's been Katy Bar the Door. Practically anyone with a pulse can be registered to vote and receive an absentee ballot.
Anyone who truly believes there isn't plenty of voter fraud in California knows nothing about the lax voting standards in the state, or human nature.
"Non-existent voter fraud"??? Alkali's naiveté is cute, isn't it?
Just guessing here. There may not be any sort of feedback to ACORN to allow that system. I agree that it would make sense to implement something like that.
Nope, no voter fraud here, folks -- just a few obviously bogus registrations that ACORN could not have been expected to catch.
Move along,Move on, now.There may not be an established feedback path, but the voter rolls are a matter of public record. It should be straightforward to match the registration info they submit against the published voter rolls.
They should already be doing this (at least doing spot-checks) if they care about with the number of actual voters they're registering. It's an easy QC measure.
That's why I don't understand the defense of ACORN. They have to choose to do things this poorly. The fact that press on, even after conviction, says very strongly that the fraudulent registrations are (at least part of) their goal, not some lamentable but unavoidable byproduct. They pay for bogus registrations. They get what they pay for. My question is: Why are they willing to pay for it?
This story details $50,000 in fraudulent donations that the Obama campaign has had to return.
In addition to uniform standards for registration, each state should have a uniform method for voting. Here in California each county uses different methods, let alone different machines. This situation showed up in early voting this year when Los Angeles County only had one site for early voting because their electronic machines had been decertified while Orange County had early voting locations in malls, community centers, and other locations where large groups of people gather. It's embarrassing that our voting standards and systems are basically at a third world level. What's next, inked fingers?
Occam's Razor holds that Kazinski's wife might be lying about the amount she intended to donate and that the figure is correct.
No, actually, I don't remember that. (Googling, it seems there was a dispute before the election about whether a request for substantially more printed ballots than registered voters was appropriate. The mayor argued that some ballot spoilage was inevitable and it was not possible to know in advance which precincts needed additional ballots.)
Remember the reports in Detroit that many precincts had over 90% turnouts (it appears that the workers just filled in ballots for those who hadn't shown up yet).
That does not appear to be a registration fraud problem, but wrongdoing by election officials, if true. For what it's worth, I agree that erroneous or expired registrations would compound the effect of this kind of wrongdoing.
Question: If you see 90% voter turnout in an African-American neighborhood and immediately infer criminal activity, doesn't that make you a ... oh, never mind.
In 2000, in NM, a statewide candidate worked for INS (and thus had access to immigration lists). In that election, according to (unconfirmed) online reports at the time, Democrats sent out ID cards to legal aliens who had applied for citizenship, encouraging them to vote.
Ah, unconfirmed online reports. In any event, this doesn't seem to have anything to do with registration fraud, but with other problems in the registration system.
While one will never know, it is quite possible that was the difference for Gore in that state, which he was losing until a cache of ballots was discovered a day or two after the election.
There was a miscount of absentee ballots in NM. Even if you assume that the miscount actually resulted from election officials forging a bunch of ballots after the fact, that doesn't seem to have anything to do with the problem of aliens registering to vote.
There is nothing inconsistent with voting enthusiastically for McCain and actually making reasoned judgments about unsourced and unsubstantiated allegations of voter fraud.
I fully support inked fingers, along with a drastic curtailment of early/absentee voting.
Yes, I disagree.
What constitutional statute criminalizes such conduct other than by perhaps government officials?
The federal Voting Rights Act bans intimidation and threats. Such a flyer is neither.
A person has no duty to provide accurate voting information to morons.
You may have heard of the "beyond a reasonable doubt" or the "clear and convincing" or the "preponderance" standard.
This is the famous Rumsfeldian "lack of evidence is not evidence of lack" standard. The lack of evidence is overwhelming in favor of conviction! Can you write the jury instruction for this?
And anyone who calls this election the "worst ever" needs to go read about Rutherford B. Hayes vs. Samuel J. Tilden in 1876. Cleveland-Blaine, Harrison-Van Buren, and the Adams-Jefferson rematch are also excellent examples of the depths to which people are willing to sink to get elected.
1) They are frequently based on unsourced or thinly sourced anecdotes, or on urban legends spread on conservative web sites (see my comments on JL's comment above)
2) They frequently feature speculative extrapolation from figures which aren't well supported to begin with (JL: "tens -- or more likely hundreds -- of thousands of illegal voter registrations")
3) They are frequently targeted at minority groups, mostly African-Americans and Latinos (see my comments on JL's comment above)
4) No serious effort is made to acknowledge obvious explanations for the phenomena criticized, or such explanations are dismissed as naive on the basis of no authority
5) No serious effort is made to suggest remedies, except for limiting electoral and campaign participation by minorities and lower-income persons (for example, no serious discussion of Rick Hasen's universal registration proposal, no discussion of how other democracies handle those issues)
Beyond that, what Alkali said.
Ah, to be young again.
And Andrew Janssen is right about past elections stolen via voter fraud, just like what ACORN does. Human nature doesn't change. The difference today is that George Soros is on record as paying hundreds of $millions to ACORN and similar groups, and Soros has a long history of using his money to subvert the electorate's vote.
There's plenty of voter fraud in Obama's organization, and its sub-organizations like ACORN. Let ACORN handle ballots, and there's voter fraud. Lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas.
Well, have fun with that. I promise the sane folk -- McCain and Obama supporters alike -- will find your utter fascination with the stolen election of 2008 to be hilarious.
Two examples were provided. I couldn't find support for either.
But what about ACORN's conviction? Where's the excuse for that? [I'm sure one will be ginned up.]
While it is perfectly possible for a nonprofit entity to be convicted of crimes, ACORN has not been convicted of any crime to my knowledge. Certain ACORN employees have been convicted of submitting false registrations. To my knowledge, ACORN cooperated with the law enforcement authorities that brought those criminal cases.
funny, though, you don't mention any one of their supposedly flawed arguments, hmm. you dittoheads are sooooo damn cute and sad!
and don't feel that you have to justify your "Not MY President" invective to little ol' us - we both know that justification is all that it is.
(and just so you know, i vote libertarian, so don't try giving me any of that "Obamabot" drivel.)
However, Barack Obama is not. He is a Chicago corrupt politician. He consorted with anti-American terrorists and radicals and then lied about it. He went to a racist anti-American church for 20 years and fit right in, and lied about it. He uses thug tactics to intimidate and silence critics. He filed complaints with the DOJ to silence political advertising he doesn't like. He solicits, enables and accepts fraudulent campaign contributions and refuses to take even minimal steps to ensure that the donations are legal. He said people who wear flag lapel pins are fake patriots. His campaign frequently labels any sort of criticism as racism. Those are not the actions of an honorable man. They are the actions of a tyrant. (Borrowed liberally from a prior post.)
He's not been honest about his identity, his associations, his activities, his crime fighting "accomplishments."
He has denied, concealed, obfuscated and spun, and, when necessary, outright lied.
He has refused to let us see his face, college transcripts and test scores. He declines to discuss in anything at all and large swaths of his life remain a mystery to this day.
He conceals who he really is and what he really believes as a matter of political expediency probably because he knows the real Batman is not electable.
Also he uses all this new fundraising and doesn't limit it at all!
Honest? No. And, really, how decent a man can a dishonest candidate be?
I will accept nothing less than personally spending hours stufying Batman's life through some sort of time device provided by the candidate. Anything else and he's hiding something.
/Penguin>
That's a great clip.
I always had a feeling Rocky shouldn't trust Micky, but I could never put my finger on why. I can't believe I forgot his real identity.
Well, you've got two boxes of registrations you're giving elections officials, the one you say is legit, and the one you say is full of fraudulent registrations which you're legally obligated to turn in anyway. And which you can pretty much rely on overworked elections officials ignoring, because you've made sure they got too many registrations to examine them all before the election.
Who's to say they're correctly sorted?
Oh, please. The only Republican who has supported public financing is McCain. Republicans should be grateful to Obama--he's destroyed a system they don't like.
Jonathan takes issue with this statement of mine in an earlier post:
To support this claim, I pointed to three things:
1. tens or hundreds of thousands of illegal voter registrations,
2. illegal campaign contributions, including illegal foreign contributions,
3. the press’s performance.
I concluded by hoping that “the voting today is not so close that it was likely determined by voter fraud or tens of millions of dollars in illegal campaign contributions,” a hope that was borne out by the substantial margin for President-elect Obama.
Jonathan disagrees with my conclusion, but the only arguments that he raises in response are that:
(1) “it does not look like corrupt election practices actually affected the outcome in any national races,” and
(2) “it might appear to some [because of more press and internet coverage] that there is more bad stuff going on, but I haven't seen any solid evidence that this is in fact the case.”
Jonathan’s first point essentially agrees with my assertion in my original post, so that’s not grounds for disagreeing. I would dispute Jonathan’s second point quite vigorously and would ask him which year since 1952 was more corrupt and what arguments or evidence he has for such a claim. In some of the early elections (eg, 1952, 1956, and 1960), African-American voters were suppressed quite substantially by poll taxes and the like, but that is not the sort of "corruption" I was talking about. As I made clear, I pointed to the extent of phony registrations, illegal contributions, and press bias.
FRAUDULENT VOTER REGISTRATION
In my post, I linked as evidence to John Fund’s piece at Politico:
Here is a small sampling of the fraud that has been uncovered so far:
That’s not all. So far this year at least 14 states have started investigations against ACORN. Talk about a culture of corruption. It is so bad that Representatives of Congress have asked for the Justice Department to investigate.
ACORN has registered over 1.3 million voters this year. If their GOAL is only to have 40% of them legitimate, then there probably are hundreds of thousands of illegal registrations. Indeed, just the short list above includes over 70,000 fraudulent registrations. Jonathan, I've never heard of national registration fraud on such a grand scale.
In Indianapolis, over 105% of adults eligible to register are registered. That’s more registered voters than there are adults (national rates of registration are only 72%).
Jonathan, if you have any reason to think that any other election in my lifetime had a similar level of phony registrations, please explain the basis for your claim. Before ACORN, we never had a national organization that was set up to promote so much voter registration fraud, so I can’t see how you would defend that claim. Organizations such as the League of Women Voters were never engaged in systematic registration fraud like this.
ILLEGAL CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS
There are at least seven reasons to believe that illegal campaign contributions are more widespread in 2008 than in any election since at least 1952:
1. Computer use is higher and online contributions are easier to make than they have ever been before. Just a few years ago, most contributions were made by check, which left a paper trail.
2. The incentive and desire by foreign nationals to contribute to Obama is higher than in any prior election. (Before this year, I don’t remember any foreign public officials publicly admitting that foreign nationals were raising money for American presidential candidates.)
3. The Obama campaign disabled the normal credit card address verification feature on their website so that making illegal foreign and excess US donations was made much easier.
4. According to foreign newspaper and internet reports, the Obama campaign has repeatedly sent requests for money to foreign nationals who are prohibited from contributing.
5. There are many false names and occupations on the released lists of donors.
6. There are many suspicious patterns and amounts of donations just in the incomplete data that was reported.
7. The Obama campaign has refused to release the list of donors under $200 as the McCain has done.
Because illegal contributions are so much easier to make than ever before, it would be strange if there weren’t more illegal contributions. Why wouldn’t there be more illegal foreign contributions this year when the Obama campaign is the first to send frequent emails to foreign nationals asking for money? Jonathan, do you know of any reports that Kerry, Gore, or Bush did this in prior years?
There are many reports of illegal fundraising and illegal contributions. Here is just one summary:
SNIP
Gadhafi is not the only foreign official to talk about foreigners making donations. According to one internet account, a prominent Spanish official admitted on TV that he had donated to Obama’s campaign.
More accounts of registration, voting, and contribution irregularities are here, here, here, here, here, and here.
CONCLUSION
In my original post, I gave three reasons why in my opinion 2008 was the most corrupt election in my lifetime (even if, as I expected, it probably didn’t affect the outcome):
1. illegal voter registrations,
2. illegal campaign contributions, and
3. the press’s performance.
I was quite specific about the three facets of this year's corruption.
I have supported the first two with arguments and evidence. Given the massive illegal voter registrations this year, I find it hard to see how Jonathan could disagree on my first point.
On my second point, I don’t see how there couldn’t be more illegal donations this year, given the switch from donations by check to donations by computer, the lax controls, and the frequent fundraising emails to foreign nationals. There is absolutely no reason to suppose that the greatly increased press reports of illegal donations are just the result of better reporting (as both Jonathan and Orin seem to imply).
The third type of corruption – press bias — is so obvious and so widely recognized by the public and by many elites that I doubt that Jonathan would challenge me on that, so I won’t waste his time on that point in an already very long post.
I gave three reasons why this election was the most corrupt since 1952. Jonathan, please indicate which election since 1952 was more corrupt than this one, and why? You never say (nor does Orin in his post).