Obama says No Earmarks Allowed in Stimulus Package.

In his brief press conference today, Barack Obama announced that there would be no earmarks allowed in his stimulus package. He stated that there would be no unreviewed projects. It was unclear whether he meant that the Administration would be picking the projects under a broad grant from Congress, or whether any projects inserted by individual members of Congress would have to be reviewed by the relevant Congressional committees, or whether he meant something else.

Whatever was intended, any restrictions on earmarking would be a good thing. While I oppose a big government spending program, favoring tax reductions instead, if we must have a big infrastructure program, we should also hope for structural restrictions to reduce waste and pork. Obama also promised transparency, with (as I understood him) individual projects identified online.

While Obama didn't go as far as McCain pledged to do in his campaign (eliminate earmarks altogether), he did pledge today to eliminate earmarks in the bill that might be the biggest pork-spending opportunity that Congress has ever considered — which is a major step. Just how much waste this move prevents will depend a lot on how the Obama administration chooses particular projects.

Nunzio:
No one will agree on whether a project is an earmark or not.
1.6.2009 2:30pm
A Law Dawg:
Nunzio,

My understanding is that earmarks are tacked on in the Senate-House conference after bills are voted on by the individual houses. It should be fairly easy to determine what appeared overnight.
1.6.2009 2:38pm
therut (mail):
What difference does it make if "earmarks" are not allowed in the BIGGEST taxpayer rip off governement "spending" program to come down the sewer. Big deal. I feel much better now about the spending. I widh I was so dumb. I can not wait for those "tax refunds" for those who pay no Federal income taxes. Might as well let them get their SS wihtout even paying their taxes for that "welfare" program. Since we have a great discussion going on how to tax ethanol to decrease "bad" things why not tax welfare recipents to get rid of welfare while we are at this raping of the people?
1.6.2009 2:39pm
Thorley Winston (mail) (www):
I suspect that what Obama wanted people to read into his rather vague comment and what he will later claim he said are two distinctly different things.
1.6.2009 2:41pm
Glenn W. Bowen (mail):
The SOB ain't even been sworn in yet.
1.6.2009 2:42pm
bobfromfresno (mail):
So handing $350B to banks is not pork but building roads is?

Okey dokey.
1.6.2009 2:42pm
PC:
The SOB ain't even been sworn in yet.

But it's not too early to blame Obama for the $8.5 trillion handed out under the Bush administration!
1.6.2009 2:50pm
Sarcastro (www):
How DARE Obama discuss planned reforms! It's just not proper! I demand decorum!

I'll bet he's trying to fix the economy even now! The nerve! *harrumph!*
1.6.2009 2:58pm
cgb:
This is quite amusing.

What is the whole stimulus package if not a collection of earmarks?

My state (and I'm sure many others) sent a multi-billion dollar wishlist of pet projects to Obama's team for inclusion in the stimulus package. If that's not an earmark, what is?

Better just to admit the sad state of our country's current economic policy: the best and brightest in our country have concluded that our continued economic survival is best assured by soliciting a trillion dollars of pet, pork barrel projects.
1.6.2009 3:00pm
Connecticut Lawyer (mail):
therut- at least in the financial bailout package, the government is getting warrants, which may, or may not, have some value down the road. The spending on "infrastructure" will in large measure just be money down the drain; you might as well hire a million people to dig holes and another million to fill them up; they'll both be employed but the taxpayer won't get anything for it and will be stuck with the tab to boot.
1.6.2009 3:11pm
some dude:
Earmarks reduce executive power*, so this isn't really a big deal.

*Congress has their say with earmarks on how the money is spent instead of handing the President a blank check.
1.6.2009 3:12pm
Randy R. (mail):
The truth is that few people have any idea how to get us out of financial mess that we are in. And the few that do are not being listened to by anyone, left or right. And who knows if they really do know?

The is no doubt, however, that we have long neglected our infrastructure. We can either wait until more bridges fall down, or we can fix them now. To me, it makes sense to fix them now, and that in itself is a good thing. If it helps stimulate the economy in some small measure, that's even better.

So: Unless people have a better idea on how to stimulate the economy, or you think that we should just let our infrastructure crumble and be a further drag on our economy, then I think people should support this.
1.6.2009 3:14pm
MarkField (mail):
I agree with some dude. The whole point of the Constitution is to vest spending power in Congress, not the Executive. Sure, earmarks can be abused, but it's foolish to set up a system in which the Executive exercises sole discretion over spending.
1.6.2009 3:27pm
Brett:
Jim, you write:

if we must have a big infrastructure program, we should also hope for structural restrictions to reduce waste and pork.


On the contrary: if we must have a big infrastructure program, we should hope that it's as wasteful and pork-laden as possible, so as to discredit the architects of the program as well as proposals for similar programs in the future.
1.6.2009 3:37pm
SG:
So: Unless people have a better idea on how to stimulate the economy, or you think that we should just let our infrastructure crumble and be a further drag on our economy, then I think people should support this.

Done properly, infrastructure maintenance shouldn't be stimulative. That is, it should be occurring in good times or bad. You can't meaningfully move maintenance activities in time. Changing your car's oil twice today doesn't mean you can go twice as long before you have to change the oil, it just means you wasted an oil change. That's not stimulative, it's just wasteful.

(Also please note that the bridge collapse was due to a design flaw that was exacerbated by maintenance efforts - it was emphatically not due to a lack of maintenance.)

And as far as creating infrastructure for stimulative purposes, well, that didn't work out so well in Japan when they're financial and real estate sectors collapsed, did it?

I don't need to have a better idea to recognize that this particular plan is a bad idea.
1.6.2009 3:55pm
James Lindgren (mail):
If it were just 50-year-old bridges or improvements in NYC water pipes or better electrical transmission lines, I think it wouldn't generate much opposition. But it's the new parks and new tennis courts and new museums and new schools and new bridges to nowhere and new Green Energy Corps and new Green Jobs Corps that on balance are likely to DETRACT from long-term economic activity.

Jim Lindgren
1.6.2009 4:11pm
Duffy Pratt (mail):
So this means if Congress puts in some earmarks, he's going to veto the bill? I can't wait...
1.6.2009 4:31pm
PlugInMonster:
If Obama thinks he can dictate terms to Congress, he is in for a rude awakening. He will learn fast who really holds the power in D.C.
1.6.2009 4:32pm
Thorley Winston (mail) (www):
If it were just 50-year-old bridges or improvements in NYC water pipes or better electrical transmission lines, I think it wouldn't generate much opposition. But it's the new parks and new tennis courts and new museums and new schools and new bridges to nowhere and new Green Energy Corps and new Green Jobs Corps that on balance are likely to DETRACT from long-term economic activity.


Agreed, what the bill is being sold as (“rebuilding our nation’s crumbling infrastructure”) and what the money is actually going to be used for are probably two very different things. Moreover, since much of the spending is for “aid to State and local governments,” it means that at the federal level we are going to be providing “emergency relief” for State and local governments that previously had plenty of money to spend on vanity projects like building new sports arenas or subsidies to encourage businesses to relocate from other States rather than taking care of their own local infrastructure projects that they now expect federal taxpayers to fund.
1.6.2009 4:41pm
Awesome-O:
So this means if Congress puts in some earmarks, he's going to veto the bill? I can't wait...

If Obama thinks he can dictate terms to Congress, he is in for a rude awakening. He will learn fast who really holds the power in D.C.


Well that's where the rubber meets the road, isn't it? Obama might want a $755 billion stimulus/tax/boondoggle/porkfest, and he might want a certain type of change to the tax code, but is he going to veto the bill if it comes in at $900 billion, or doesn't have enough windmill subsidies, or raises taxes on joint filers making more than $100k?

I can't imagine that he wants that kind of political fight that early on, especially if if hopes to do something more ambitious in the second half of the year, like introduce some kind of health insurance program.
1.6.2009 5:08pm
autolykos:

The spending on "infrastructure" will in large measure just be money down the drain; you might as well hire a million people to dig holes and another million to fill them up; they'll both be employed but the taxpayer won't get anything for it and will be stuck with the tab to boot.


Well that depends on the infrastructure being built. Some (like the infamous "Bridge to Nowhere") don't add more value than they cost. Others do (largely because the private sector cannot do things like build roads or subways). Leaving aside the fact that most of the most beneficial large infrastructure projects were built 50-100 years ago (which is why every major US city already has a subway) and that most of the stimulus will likely be wasted rebuilding bridges that are perfectly fine and building non-infrastructure related things like parks, it's at least conceivable that the stimulus could add value.
1.6.2009 5:32pm
Bruce Hayden (mail) (www):

Well that depends on the infrastructure being built. Some (like the infamous "Bridge to Nowhere") don't add more value than they cost. Others do (largely because the private sector cannot do things like build roads or subways). Leaving aside the fact that most of the most beneficial large infrastructure projects were built 50-100 years ago (which is why every major US city already has a subway) and that most of the stimulus will likely be wasted rebuilding bridges that are perfectly fine and building non-infrastructure related things like parks, it's at least conceivable that the stimulus could add value.
I think that you are optimistic in assuming that many, if not most, infrastructure projects bring more value than they cost. Maybe at one time they did, but we have been facing Davis-Bacon and union work rules for a long time now on most federally funded projects.

After all, if the projects were so financially attractive, then private enterprise would likely find a way to build and charge for them. But most of them will never pay for themselves, regardless of how you try to run the figures.

That of course assumes that we are talking useful infrastructure construction. But in many cases, we probably are not. Others above have mentioned parks, etc. How many more Robert Byrd parks, bridges, and highways are going to come of this? But remember that another major Obama and Democratic constituency are the greens, and that means that any bill that includes road construction or repair is also going to have to include a lot of money for green causes such as mass transit, alternate fuels, etc. just to balance things out. Projects where the payback is in the centuries, instead of decades.
1.6.2009 6:19pm
Brian K (mail):
After all, if the projects were so financially attractive, then private enterprise would likely find a way to build and charge for them.

or it just means that the benefits are distributed too diffusely for any single private entity to profit off of. these small benefits when added up to a whole however may exceed costs.
1.6.2009 8:31pm
guy in the veal calf office (mail) (www):
I bet anyone a large amount of money that the stimulus bill will get earmarked (a portion of the wagered amount will be used to purchase a new toy to benefit residents of my district). The Bill will be drenched in earmarks if only to show him who's in charge, but if I'm wrong, I'll be mightily impressed by ObamaHopeChange.

As a historical note, I've read that Jimmy Carter started his presidency this (honorable) way, threatening all sorts of things unless Congress stopped sending him pork laden bills, but lost the fight against his own party and never regained congressional support.
1.6.2009 9:07pm
Elliot123 (mail):
How does putting lights on a bike path in Omaha help the economy? Let's say it costs $500k. Does anyone contend that's be best way to spend $500k in Omaha?
1.6.2009 10:41pm
TheCrux (mail):
Brian K is correct. It is beyond peradventure that mainstream, neoclassical economic theory would predicate a suboptimal societal quantity of infrastructure if left to the dictates of the free market.

So conservatives cannot have it both ways. Either one subscribes to free market economic theory or one does not. If you believe in mainstream economic theory, you recognize the necessity of government spending on infrastructure.

Moreover, transportation costs have historically been one of the largest impediments to economic development.

There exists substantial justifivcation for the utilization of stimulus money on infrastructure improvements. This foregoing is but one of those reasons.
1.6.2009 10:48pm
trad and anon (mail):
I really hope this is empty posturing. The alternative is that he sincerely thinks he can keep the bill earmark-free, which would prove everything the Republicans said during the campaign about him being an empty suit.

Seriously, what is he going to do? Veto his own $800 billion spending initiative because it contains $50 billion in earmarks?
1.6.2009 10:59pm
Dr. Fred in PA:
This is going to be the mother of all boondoggles. No earmarks? Yaahhh. How do we get out of this mess? Why, stop what got us into it, ie., overspending and overborrowing. Far too many people in this country are not pulling their own weight. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that we've hit a critical mass of voters that have figured out that they can vote themselves other peoples money.
1.6.2009 11:18pm
Jmaie (mail):
I find myself in a quandary.

I don't generally favor stimulus packages of this type because I see no reason to think it will actually work, and it will greatly increase the national debt.

On the other hand, Mr. Obama has stated he expects trillion dollar deficits for years to come, which will result in a debt so large it can never conceivably be paid off (not that it's a sure thing the current debt will ever be paid off).

This relieves me of any obligation to consider future generations, as the dollar will inevitably collapse. Therefore the only sane course of action is to take "my" piece of the package now and purchase gold. And I can do so guilt-free.

Rant finished.
1.7.2009 12:39am
therut (mail):
Big Dig. All that has to be said.
1.7.2009 1:04am
tanarg:
It remains to be seen if Obama is even inaugurated. After all, he hasn't provided documentary evidence that he meets the constitutional requirements for being president, including being a natural born citizen. Obama has no legal right to be president, or to act as president, even after he's inaugurated, because he has not produced the evidence that he meets the constitutional requirements. Until he does so, he is not legally president. That's the truth.

Massive civil disobedience of a *federal law* in the event Obama is illegitimately inaugurated would help bring this matter to the public's attention.
1.7.2009 5:24am

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