The trial of Saddam Hussein was mired in controversy from start to finish. Opponents of the Iraq invasion attacked it from the outset, and many international law experts questioned whether a domestic tribunal, such as that created to try Hussein and other members of his regime, was an appropriate means to prosecute a head of state for his alleged crimes against humanity. Many would have preferred a truly international tribunal, such as the International Criminal Court or a tribunal like that which had been used for the trial of Slobodan Milosevic. Others raised concerns about the tribunal's occasionally chaotic proceedings and its authorization of the death penalty, in accordance with Iraqi law. Such criticisms notwithstanding, it is likely the tribunal will be recognized as a landmark in international criminal law, and not simply because it successfully tried and convicted Hussein for some of the atrocities committed by his regime.
The story of the Hussein trial, from the creation of the tribunal through Hussein's conviction and execution, is told in Enemy of the State: The Trial and Execution of Saddam Hussein by Vanderbilt law school's Michael Newton and my colleague Michael Scharf. Both participated in the development of the tribunal. As a consequence, the book offers a detailed, inside account of the court's creation and its proceedings, including gavel-to-gavel coverage of the trial itself and legal analysis of its decision. The book offers many insights and revelations omitted by contemporary media accounts, and places the tribunal in its broader international law context.
While some disparaged the decision to try Hussein before a domestic tribunal, as opposed to an international tribunal or the International Criminal Court, the book convinced me that such criticisms were misguided. Conducting the trial in an Iraqi court, and relying upon Iraqi law, helped legitimize the trial within Iraq and could serve to reinforce rule-of-law values in the country going forward. There is an inevitable hint of "victor's justice" in any trial of a former head of state, but relying upon a domestic court reduced the taint. The ICC was also not an option because the crimes for which Hussein was tried occurred before the ICC's creation in 2002, depriving that court of jurisdiction, and the tribunal took account of international law principles in its work.
The trial itself was hardly perfect — at times it was quite chaotic, largely due to the defense team's efforts to disrupt the proceedings — but I think it will become a landmark in international criminal law. I suspect it will influence future war crimes tribunals as well. In particular, the tribunal may encourage greater reliance upon domestic war crimes tribunals in lieu of international courts. At present, Michael Scharf is working with the government of Uganda to create a war crimes tribunal for the trial of Joseph Kony and other leaders of the LRA for their atrocities. Because the ICC was explicitly created as a court of law resort, it only makes sense for countries like Uganda to try and conduct domestic trials first. The Iraqi tribunal provides a model for how that can be done, as well as some lessons for what mistakes to avoid. As such, the precedents set by the tribunal are likely to be among the more important legal legacies of the Iraq war.
Contrary to popular misconceptions -- many of which were spread by US State Dept personnel who were assigned to the Coalition Provisional Authority to set up a post-war gov't and "journalists" who reported from the Green Zone pools and bars -- Iraq had a well-developed legal system and, at least in areas that were outside the direct concern of the ruling Ba'athist Party, a reasonably independent judiciary that was well educated. Iraqi law and its judicial system were modeled on the French system, which had been adapted by Egypt to include fundamental tenents of Islam and Arab culture. The CPA screwed things up by ignoring the established body of law and legal system.
As far as laws on the books -- murder was already a crime in Iraq. Ordering others to commit mass murders (like the poison gas attacks on Kurdish villages) was a crime. Being "President" of Iraq wasn't a recognized defense.
And, "No" Oren, he wasn't entitled to a firing squad. He was not executed for acts as a Soldier, and so not entitled to the honor of a firing squad. He was hung, because that is how common criminals are traditionally executed.
Aren't they all?
He was not executed for acts as a Soldier
Ordering the use of poison gas on alleged rebels isn't "an act as a soldier"?
Not that I'm terribly clear on exactly what he was convicted for, or what the relevant laws prescribe. We did hang the capital convicts at Nuremberg, all of whom were found guilty of crimes against humanity.
He ordered the murder of those Kurds while acting in the capacity of Commanding Officer of the Iraqi Army. No matter how vile he is, he cannot possibly be considered a common criminal.
On 5 November 2006, Saddam Hussein was sentenced to death by hanging, for the killing of 148 Shiites from Dujail, in retaliation for the assassination attempt of 8 July 1982.
This was a reprisal against a village (not Kurdish) where some lively opponents of the regime fired on Saddam's convoy. I think it's arguably "military," but I'm not going to lose any sleep over exactly how Saddam met his end.
Saddam was interrogated at length over time by a team of FBI Agents brought in to work closely with CIA. In fact, the lead interogator has published a book (title escapes me, but as Casey Stengel said, You could look it up), reocunting some of his experiences in forming a bond and trust with SH during the course of interrogations.
The "international community" was adamantly opposed to creation of a domestic Iraq tribunal, primarily because it blocked their desire to have a perpetual source of employment and cocktail party stories if they could recreate another ICTY in the Hague; also they opposed any regime that even hinted at a death pealty; and recall at that time, the world liberal cognoscenti and intelligetsia were already mobilizing to oppose anything associated with Bush Adminstration policy. European countries wouldn't send forensic or criminal investigators to assist the Regime Crimes Liaison Office for these and other reasons; nor would they let their indivdual experts "volunteer" unofficially even when they wanted to do so. Unfortunately, most of the career foreign service and State Dept lawyers were more closely allied in outlook and opinion with that mindset, than supportive of the administration, and their actions within State and CPA reflected that. AMB Pierre Prosper and his at large DOS office for war crimes were also eternally peeved that the lead agency appointed in USG was DOJ, and they had been passed over (for much the same reasosns stated above -- Condoleeza Rice, while still WH Nat Sec Adviser and before she went native at Foggy Bottom, directed AG Ashcroft to take the lead, as the federal prosecutors were seen as more likely to go in, do the job, and get out -- as opposed to the career international lawyers and human rights specialists. DOD on the other hand had their hands full and wanted no more responsibility than they already had.)
We hung Nazis as common criminals, too. That they were in uniform when they committed their crimes did not entitle them to the honor of a firing squad.
And, Saddam was not tried by a military tribunal. He was tried as a criminal, and punished as one.
To be a little more specific, the following military Officers were sentenced to death by hanging at the main trial at Nuremburg:
Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring (committed suicide before his scheduled execution);
Generalfeldmarschall Wilhelm Keitel, Head of Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (OKW) 1938-1945. Sentenced to death by hanging and executed in that manner;
Generaloberst Alfred Jodl, Chief of the O.K.W.'s Operations Division 1938-1945. Sentenced to death by hanging and executed in that manner.
For the types of crimes of which Saddam was convicted, there is no precedent supporting his receiving the honor of death by firing squad. However, there is precedent for death by hanging, like a common criminal.
We did try to kill him at the outbreak of the war using Tomahawks with missions planned for a place he was staying. Unfortunately after they were launched he moved on to another safe-house.
In retrospect it would have been better if the soldiers who captured him had just shot Saddam. He came out of his hole brandishing a handgun, so he was technically in armed resistance and hence legal to shoot.
There, I feel better.
Reprieve was comming o'er the brig o' Banff
Tae set MacPherson free
They pu'd the clock aye a quarter forward
And they hanged him frae the tree....
This commemorated a controversial hanging nearly four hundred years ago. Sometimes the perception of injustice can become larger-than-life. Nowadays, the folk music tradition suggests MacPherson was set up for his (probable) crimes.
In 2040, will we see Saddam living on as the hero of folk song? What a way to win undying fame.....
i am sorry, but despite this new book's valiant attempts at water carrying for the administration and movement consevativism, the trial and execution of saddam will be remembered as the farce that they were, nothing more than one tribe's revenge on another.
Are you sure he came out with a handgun? I was stationed in Tikrit and several friends were actually present at the time of his capture, and I have never before heard he had a weapon.
So says you. Is there any doubt of his guilt? He was given an opportunity to defend himself, no matter how limited. Way more than he deserved.
Though why waste a trial? The Romanians and Italians had a better idea about how to deal with tyrants.
Good. The more he suffered the better.
Dignity for Saddam!!!
Another reason for the ICC not being an option for crimes of the magnitude here is that the ICC is impotent when it comes to sentence. The most it can impose is life imprisonment, which would have been a travesty in this case.
The ICC should simply be abolished, given that it cannot impose an adequate punishment in the cases it was created to adjudicate.
Thanks for that information. It still appears to me that a lot of useful and incriminating information was made inaccessible by his death. He should have been publicly tried for all of the crimes upon which, among other reasons, the war was rationalized.
You cannot both claim (as the authors do) that Saddam's trial will be remembered BY THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY as a great accomplishment, and simultaneously believe that Saddam should have been executed in the sloppiest and most undignified way possible, despite the condemnations of the international community (including Bush, who is no shrinking violet when it comes to the death penalty).
In other words, you could write another book about how it doesn't matter that Saddam wasn't tried for his worst crimes, that he was essentially executed in an act of tribal revenge, and that his trial and execution was seen as a farce by the international community, because justice was done. That might even be a very good book. But it isn't the one that was written or that Adler was praising. And the one that was written pretends that this farcical process will be viewed by future generations as a modern-day Nuremburg. THAT is clearly false.
This was not the Nuremberg tribunal. It was simply a way to bring the case and Hussein's life to closure.
It's not like there isn't precedent for this. Al Capone was charged and convicted for tax evasion - not the more heinous behavior he was involved in. Why? Because they could, that's why.
Your suggestion that the ICC should be abolished merely because it cannot mete out a death penalty is absurd. A life sentence is punishing and incapacitating - and for many convicts, a fate worse than an "honorable" soldier's execution.
The International Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia - in all - cost over $400 million. Saddam's trial was faster and cheaper and more legitimate, and it reached the correct result.
But I disagree that it "legitimized the trial within Iraq and served to reinforce rule-of-law values in Iraq." The executioners were shouting "Go To Hell" and partisan and Shi'a slogans like "Long Live Muqtada!" which, in the execution of a Sunni, gives the impression of a sectarian lynch mob. Yes, they ostensibly killed him pursuant to the court judgment, immediately upon after gaining custody of Saddam from the Americans.
But I have no doubt that they would have killed him in the same manner anyway had the Americans transferred custody to them without a judgment, without a conviction.
<blockquote>He ordered the murder of those Kurds while acting in the capacity of Commanding Officer of the Iraqi Army. No matter how vile he is, he cannot possibly be considered a common criminal.</blockquote>Which is an interesting point, I suppose: if a soldier commits a crime and is subject to military justice, then that military organization is presumably responsible for his trial and sentencing. However, the Iraqi Army was famously disbanded (the wisdom of that move and de-Baathification is still debatable) shortly after Sadaam was toppled; who, then, actually has authority to try him?
I suppose the new Iraqi Army could try him, but there's not an obvious continuity that I'm aware of which makes them hold the obvious jurisdiction. Presumably the sovereign <i>country</i> of Iraq never ceased to exist during the Coalition invasion, only its government was eliminated; so Iraq itself, and its civilian courts, get the first shot at him (no pun intended).
IANAL or an expert in international military law, but it seems to me that you can only try someone as a solidier under the codes of the military organization he was a member of. Incidentally, can you try a soldier for violation of military law, if that solidier <i>created</i> the law for the military in question? Has anyone checked the old Iraqi Army field manuals for a line that said "do not gas citizens for political reasons"?
In any case, I suppose I would not object if Sadaam demanded to be hung in uniform, instead of his prison garb. But it's too late to argue his final fashion statement, I suppose.
I was merely pointing out that the trial was not a farce. It gave a great deal of process to a man who was not deserving. It was probably better run than OJ Simpson's, for example.
Once he was sentenced to death, what use is dignity during the execution? The "international community" does not believe in death penalties anyways.
*(Kietel, Jodl and the others should have been executed but there was no justification for a procedure where Soviet "judges" participated. Tainted the whole proceeding. Not to mention the "aggressive war" charge was totally ex post facto. And stupid.
The later US only trial system was also an error since it resulted in many evil men being either released early or not tried at all because we needed Germany against the Soviets.)
So that the judgment is seen as carried out by the People of Iraq, not by fanatics shouting "Go to Hell Sunni Bastard" and "Muqtada"?
So that a country in a slow-boil civil war isn't further divided by sectarian factions?
In America, when a sentence is handed down, often you hear "May God have mercy on your soul." What happened in Iraq would be the equivalent of "I hope you suffer in hell n*gger."
You don't see how this could cause resentment and ethnic tensions?
The people who call themsleves the INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY didn't like it. So what? One sign of a healthy nation state is that it handles its own affairs without regard to what the INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY thinks.
Can anyone tell us of a single case where the US has handed over an American to the INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY for trial? I'm not aware of any.
Can anyone tell us what the INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY is?
Why does the INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY capitalize itself?
I mean, hell, the Shiites probably wanted to reserve for themselves future Kurd-killing privileges; they sure as hell didn't want to establish it as a crime.
You are. This is a complicated question-- there are all sorts of options for deposed leaders accused of human rights violations, from exile to simply stringing them up.
The merit of having a trial is that you get a chance for a full and fair airing of the human rights violations, and some sort of accounting to the victims. That's why Nuremburg is such a great model-- whatever else you want to say about it, it makes Holocaust denial a lot harder to pull off.
The process that Saddam went through didn't achieve any real advantage over just stringing him up. Indeed, it made his execution look even less legitimate, just a dressed up form of tribal violence. And it is way too early to tell whether it will really bring closure to the matter, or whether Sunni radicals and Baathists or their successors will remember this the next time they are in power.
Best,
Ben
Sounds to me like RPT and Dilan Esper would like to have had more trials in which, they surmise, some of the reasons underlying the decision to invade Iraq and depose Hussein were exposed as false or fallacious and the horrors of the Bush Administration were rehearsed yet again. Gentlemen, am I wrong?"
It is certain that we would have learned the answers to many questions. With so much support for the interrogation of everyone else, why is there such conservative opposition to the appropriate interrogation of this guy? It reminds me of the scene in "Valkyrie" where the general involved in the coup planning tried to save himself had the others plotters killed before they could be questioned and implicate him. Of course, that only bought him another few months.....
One sign of an educated citizen is that he has some awareness of statements made by our Founders. The first sentence of the Declaration of Independence talks about having "a decent respect to the opinions of mankind." In Washington's first inaugural address, he talked about creating a government which could "command the respect of the world."
What a shame that Jefferson and Washington didn't have you to advise them about the proper characteristics of "a healthy nation state."
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Because Saddam may have decided to mention the way Reagan and Rummy assisted him with lots of useful goodies, like cluster bombs, anthrax, bubonic plague and deadly pesticides (deadly against humans, that is).
And of course Reagan and Rummy did this right around the same time that Saddam was gassing civilians. We were helping a war criminal, but that was OK, because he was our war criminal. Better for all that to be forgotten.
Rock On said,
Reminds me of that joke in the movie "Blazing Saddles" --
Charlie: They said you was hung!
Sheriff Bart: And they was right!
That has always been an interesting idea. So, which opinions and which men?
The ones who are worth taking seriously. Not you, in other words.
Does that mean other opinions are rejected? Even if they are held by members of the international community?
I think you're more likely a part of the interplanetary community, but that's not what the Founders were talking about.
I could probably explain it to someone else, but I couldn't explain it to you. You'd have to travel to Earth first. When you do, drop us a line.
OK. Can we presume you quoted that for some reason? How about just explaining to the general readership how an educated citizen respects the opinions of mankind when they contradict each other?
I'll seriously consider addressing "the general readership" if and when I hear a question from "the general readership." So far I just hear some incoherent mumbling from a distant galaxy.
No.
So, I'll stick with my initial statement that:
One sign of a healthy nation state is that it handles its own affairs without regard to what the INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY thinks.
Not exactly. It's more like few are interested in sending messages to distant galaxies. Let us know when you get closer to this one.
At the time of the Declaration, what was the opinion of mankind regarding the ideas in the Declaration? Did mankind hold to a single opinion that supports theDeclaration, or were there a variety of opinions? How did Jefferson respect the opinions of mankind? How did he discriminate among them in choosing the ideas he then wrote into the Declaration?
He probably started by ignoring people who obviously don't intend to be taken seriously.
Likewise, a sign of a healthy nation state is that it handles its own affairs without regard to what the INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY thinks.
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