Did Politics Override Science on Phthalates?
This morning NPR ran an interesting story suggesting Congress disregarded the relevant science when it passed a ban on certain phthalates in children's toys. The measure may have been backed by Democrats, such as Senators Feinstein and Boxer, but it was signed by President Bush. More evidence of a Republican "War on Science."
My God, what if they start eating chemicals? Or drinking them?
Go ye forth and read the CPSIA stuff on Walter Olsen's Overlawyered
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Child's play. Cap'n Trade coming soon. Media will be slow to notice the unintended consequences.
Maybe it's not all Democrats, but Feinstein (D), Boxer (D), and Waxman (D) are spearheading this, and adamant that it be enforced as written. To date the Dems have short-circuited every attempt to modify or amend the law, so the majority leaders are onboard too.
Apparently there's a well known TV news guy in Chicago named Orion and Obama pronounced it like that guy pronounces his name rather than like the constellation, presumably because he's heard that guy pronounce his name before, but never heard anyone refer to the constellation.
The beauty of that incident is that now I will have a ready answer whenever anyone asks me whether I really learned anything from all those hours I wasted playing Masters of Orion many years ago.
Finally we have a human being, with all the accompanying foibles, in the White House, with no more than a third-grade education!
Lead batteries are the main culprit. Manufacturers are seeking an exemption.
I really don't want to be partisan about this, because the people fighting CPSIA are of every political stripe. But CPSIA was authored by Democrats, sponsored by Democrats, and now Democrats are the ones refusing to do anything about it. But hey, it's a Republican war on science...
The CPSIA has had a ton of unintended (or maybe not?) side effects. Thrift stores are concerned about whether they can sell old children's clothes without testing. Same with old children's books, etc.
The real interesting question is why, in our system, when something like CPSIA ends up being so obviously dumb, that it isn't repealed?
Congress is so wise...
A great example of both sides ignoring good science and good sense. While it is silly to force us to use compact fluorescent bulbs instead of incandescent, it is equally silly to criticize fluorescents because of supposed environmental hazard. Other than cutting yourself on broken glass, the risk of anything bad happening if you break one in your home is miniscule.
My wife and I gave up on the suggested disposal methods after a month or two. You can't possibly expect us to drive to Lowes everytime a lightbulb burns out. I would bet that far more than 10% of us are throwing them in the trash.
I doubt anyone would. If you can save up your dead rechargeable batteries, paint cans and other hazardous waste for an occasional trip to a disposal facility, surely you can hang on to a few light bulbs for your next trip to Lowe's. I save up my empty printer carts for credits when I return them to Staples. Doesn't create too much of a space issue for me.
But more to the point, this plastic additive was judged to be hazardous to children. Because one study showed that a handful of children didn't suck on plastic toys for a little over an hour, we're supposed to be outraged that it's been banned? Tell it to my two-year-old niece, who probably isn't five minutes a day without one toy or another in her mouth.
Yes, because immediately driving to Lowes is the only option.
CFLs are still a net benefit to total environmental mercury even if a large portion of people toss them in the trash, since their reduced energy consumption means that less mercury was released at the power plant.
You can make different assumptions about how people dispose of them and how clean the energy sources are.
I'd love to see poll data on how many Americans do that.
I don't understand. Why would Democrats want to ban something that will produce future Democrats?
The vast majority of the money spent complying with this law will be spent certifying products that are already proven safe or known to be safe beyond any reasonable doubt. This money is money out of the pockets of parents who would be using it to provide for their children.
The CPSIA, as it stands, will devastate small manufacturers, artists, and craftsmen who produce the best, most creative, most educational, and safest products for children.
The CPSIA is wiping out the used children's products market - an extremely important resource for low income families. Used resellers can't afford to test and they can't risk the immense penalties. Even if they are 99.9 percent sure a product is safe they cannot risk it.
This law is threatening to take away all children's books published before 1985 even though the evidence is overwhelming that they are safe.
The list of products made illegal by this law is ridiculous: bicycles, tricycles, books, atv's, microscopes, telescopes, pens, and the list goes on. Products that while they do have a little lead in them it would never, under any reasonable scenario, find its way into a child.
Then there is the unit testing requirement of the CPSIA. Of all the different systems that one could come up with to certify product safety the only distinction that unit testing has is that it is the most monumentally inefficient method one could imagine. To be honest there are probably a small number of cases where unit testing might be the right way to go. But across the board unit testing is simply insane.
The CPSIA was well intended I have no doubt. But good intentions alone are not enough. The unfortunate reality is that this law is backfiring - it is hurting children. I don't think I can say that loud enough: THIS LAW IS HURTING CHILDREN!
We must continue to work to protect our children from toxic substances but this law is NOT THE WAY TO DO IT!
Be careful what one wasks for, one may just get it. When one wishes for regulation in one area, realize there are others who want regulations in different areas. Chemical regulations occur because of the ignorance of the general public about chemicals.
Check out DHMO.ORG
True stories. Real results.
Question: How many on here are chemically smart?
Oh yes, oxybenzone that causes ovarian tissue to grow in fish testes is a primary ingredient of most sunscreens.
Tiochfaidh ar la!
It's more about the congresscritters picking and choosing their ills that bug me than anything else.
I guess that's the just the way it works with eveything. If I can get someone famous to talk about an issue, I get lot's of attention, if not, I don't. Hence why AIDs gets more attention than drinking water and sanitation. Oh wel.
As Prof. Adler's previous article points out, the Left has its own "war on science." Certainly, neither side is a bastion of unbiased scientific analysis; both have a tremendous incentive to distort the results as much as possible to achieve their own political ends. We can hope that both sides will come to their senses, or we can remove the incentive to play politics with science.
So, Prof. Adler, if you believe the S.F. Carbunkle, it really is another example of "Bush's War on Science" -- and obviously his signing the Bill was just a Rovian plot. However, if you believe Stats.org, "science reporter" is a figment of the imagination, and the wisdom of politicians exists only in an alternate universe where the unicorns are.
It's obvious that the bigshots in the Democratic party don't buy into the global warming religion; just look at what kinds of cars they use for their motorcades, or Nancy Pelosi's penchant for demanding jet transportation from the military instead of flying commercially.
Because the lead was put there by an immoral wasteful greedy selfish arrogant Mr. Monopoly Man rich scum businesman for the sole purpose of money money money, while the mercury comes from a noble selfless other-serving consensus-building mother for the purpose of healing Mother Earth.
Sheesh. Didn't you get the memo? Obama is President! Good intentions are what matters now. This fussing about actual results and tying yourself down to objective reality is one of those Failed Policies Of The Past we've thoroughly rejected.
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