in Ileto v. Glock, Inc. (just handed down today). I might not have time to say much about this, but I thought I'd give the pointer, and note that the opinion was by Judge Graber joined by Judge Reinhardt, with a partial concurrence and partial dissent by Judge Berzon. For more on the underlying tort theory, which the Ninth Circuit accepted before Congress passed the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, see the four posts that begin here.
Note that the panel did hold that the Act doesn't apply to one of the defendants, a foreign manufacturer that isn't "licensed to engage in business as such a manufacturer under [federal law]," to quote the Act; but while there was some argument about that, the result seems to be pretty clearly correct. Thanks to How Appealing for the pointer.
So, in this case, Congress could repeal the law retroactively.
And Congress could also retroactively change any law that served to pre-empt a law suit. I think that should give one pause. Slippery slope, indeed, for business. A veritable double-edge sword.
Nope. Can't be. These are mythical creatures, sort of like pink unicorns, as has been pointed out to us by many commenters here.
Except, that is, in the extremely rare, to the point of vanishingly small, cases where they slope to the right, in which case they immediately and magically morph into the most dangerous things imaginable, destined to lead to George Bush declaring himself Emperor for life.
That didn't happen? Oh wait...
And the dissent to this retroactivity seems plain-spoken and considered:
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Not so. The plaintiffs can always sue Buford Furrow, the Aryan Nations, the hospitals that released him, the judge who didn't commit him, and the manufacturer of the van he took from Washington to LA, General Motors.
It was odd to read in the dissent that a California cause of action could arise from events that took place wholly in Washington state, because they could have violated California law had they taken place in that state.
B. Retroactive legislation is bad if it keeps gun manufacturers from being sued, but okay if it retroactively makes people ineligible to own firearms, as the Lautenberg Amendment did.Because the gun manufacturers should be held liable somehow!
Really?
Just one thing though - Reinhart was in the majority??? Wow. Wouldn't have guessed that in a thousand years. Maybe senilty works backwards in this case.
Secondly, what the court did not mention, but was obvious, was that the Supremacy Clause was being utilized here. Congress determined that suits like these interfered with Interstate Commerce (of a federally regulated industry). Allowing the suits to proceed would propagate this interference. Besides, there was no final verdict on the merits, and so there was no property interest being lost.
The dissent here seems to be taking the view that just because the litigants were able to file suit before Congress was able to enact a law asserting its Constitutional supremacy here in regulating Interstate Commerce, that the cases should be allowed to proceed, despite them being the express object of that law. And that is what the dissent really didn't address, that Congress had rationally declared this to be an interference of Interstate Commerce.
The law changed the rules in the middle of the game.
I'm going to disagree, because the entire legal theory -- that manufacturers and vendors were somehow responsible for injury caused by legal products that functioned properly as designed -- was brand new.
Did any manufacturer ever lose one of these suits?
Exactly. The idea that this law preempts 'injuries which "would be cognizable under state common law" is way off base. As far as I know, no other product has been subject to lawsuits based on the same theory. If somebody knows of a case of an auto manufacturer being sued because their car was used as a getaway vehicle, I'd be interested to know of it.
Indeed, the people filing these suits were not shy about their intention being to harm the industry with legal expenses even if they lost every single suit.
I sure do dislike legislation and court decisions that are platformed upon "commerce", it just seems like this opens up everything to mischief. Right about now, they're printing money and buying Chrysler with it, and somewhere in the stack of paper, I bet it says it's all about "commerce".
It was possible that, if the plaintiffs could show that the defendant's intent was to produce firearms for purchase by criminals, that the plaintiffs could prevail. After the change in the law, intent did not matter.
That is, now, firearm manufacturers can produce arms specifically so that criminals can be armed, and there will be no liability. (The manufacturers, of course, would sell the weapons legally in the first instance).
I am not expressing an opinion on whether the law is good. It is just that it is clearly retroactive in nature.
This was gun control, pure and simple. Firearm manufacturers must comply with loads of federal, state, and local regulations designed to keep criminals from getting guns. (At least the laws say so on the label.) The manufacturers were therefore being sued for obeying the law. How is intent relevant?
They could do so only by bending causation into a pretzel: Glock sold the firearms in question to a police department. The police department sold off the guns when they bought replacements, making them unwitting tools of the supposed Glock policy. Similarly, second-hand police cruisers make the best getaway cars.
I can't find a definition of cognizable that's not circular. The only thing that's certain is that the statute assures that the theory is not cognizable now.
As noted in the landmark case "State of Illinois v. Jake Blues and Elwood Blues, 1980"
case was thrown out because it was deemed a violation of right to religious expression
after all, jake and elwood were on a mission from god.
Indeed Mr. Cramer. The "bulk" is so prominent in the statistical analysis of these tragedies that the few exceptions to the rule of the mentally ill being involved do eventually prove the rule. Lee Harvey Oswald was institutionalized at 14 years old and found to be mentally impaired. The same with Pres. McKinley's assassin, Leon Czolgosz, in 1901 and on to the latest recent shootings.
The irony of the last 50 years is that the precipitating legislation responsible for these tragedies in the US is legislation that was sponsored and promoted and eventually signed into law by JFK three weeks before his assassination. Specifically the "Community Mental Health Centers Act of 1963". JFK's speech regarding this legislation can be found at the c&p link below to the UC Santa Barbara archives:
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=9546 .
The irony and naivety of JFK in this speech is profound.
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