Can the FCC Search Your Home?

The FCC apparently thinks it can search your home without a warrant. Our own Prof. Kerr is skeptical.

zuch (mail) (www):
From the "Wired" article [interestingly named place for an article like this]:
But in 2009, nearly every household in the United States has multiple devices that use radio waves and fall under the FCC’s purview, making the commission’s claimed authority ripe for a court challenge.
Actually, what matters is devices that emit radio waves (whether they use them or not), and we've had such for quite some time (as anyone who watched the snow on the old telly when the electric can opener was run will know). All your computers (those of you that had more than one) had to have FCC labels, and were subject to being turned off if they interfered with the reception of others (back in the days when computers were less common, many had FCC Class A labels for "commercial" equipment not meant for residential neighbourhoods). Just being certified isn't enough; even if the equipment meets emissions standards, if it interferes, the FCC can still come and demand that the emissions be abated or the device tunred off.

Cheers,
5.22.2009 8:49am
Oren:

The rules came to attention this month when an FCC agent investigating a pirate radio station in Boulder, Colorado, left a copy of a 2005 FCC inspection policy on the door of a residence hosting the unlicensed 100-watt transmitter. “Whether you operate an amateur station or any other radio device, your authorization from the Commission comes with the obligation to allow inspection,” the statement says.

Anyone else notice the logical flaw there? If they have no authorization from the FCC, they could not possibly have accepted the obligation that comes with it.

Now, maybe the FCC has the authority to go after pirate radio on its own initiative, but they certainly can't argue that a station that didn't submit to FCC licensing has consented to the terms of FCC licensing.
5.22.2009 8:53am
cboldt (mail):
-- Anyone else notice the logical flaw there? If they have no authorization from the FCC, they could not possibly have accepted the obligation that comes with it. --
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The logical flaw is an artifact of the article.
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On reading the complete FCC 2005 form letter/FAQ, it becomes clear that the FCC recognizes the difference between licensed an unlicensed/unauthorized broadcast.
5.22.2009 9:10am
Baelln1:
... a bit late for any concern about the FCC exceeding its authority. It has no fundamental legal authority.

Government ownership of communications frequencies & control of associated devices/users is not a fundamental principle of human society... nor even of the United States.

Federal politicians blatantly seized vast control of the Radio-Frequency (RF) Spectrum with the non-constitutional Radio Acts of 1912 &1927. That 1927 usurpation established the "Federal Radio Commission" bureaucracy (morphed into the FCC). The airwaves were nationalized/socialized -- and declared public property under strict Commission control.

By Federal political custom, the Commerce-Clause trumps the 4th Amendment... and most everything else.
5.22.2009 9:43am
GMS:
As long as the seach is not uneasonable.
5.22.2009 10:02am
Yeah_but_:
I can understand an exigent circumstance of a transmitter stepping on others or interfering with something outside the premises, but the FCC believes the mere possession of a device, even if it is not operating, gives them the right to enter. That's the rub.
5.22.2009 10:13am
cirby (mail):
The FCC claims that they can determine if a station is operating outside of the rules (by external detection and triangulation), but "The Commission has no means of determining whether a station is being operated as licensed except through immediate on-the-spot inspection."

They're going for the "have their cake and eat it too" argument. If they have enough proof to show that a station is being operated at all, they also have enough proof to get a warrant to inspect the equipment. They're just not sure if they can convince a judge to issue a warrant in the first place, or they'd do so.

From the technical side, they're full of crap. They can easily detect frequencies used and power emitted from the curb. They can cross-index with their own licensing database to see if such a transmitter is authorized. There is zero need for them to enter a home or business to determine if the equipment is operating legally. The "we have to physically inspect" line is a blatant lie. They just don't want to take the time or trouble to convince a judge that their methods are sound.


Here's the really sketchy part: under the FCC's interpretation of this, they can take a fairly minor extra step and inspect any building or home containing a working RF transmitter, at any time the device is in operation. Which means that anyone running a Wi-Fi router could be subject to 24/7/365 "inspections" to see if their equipment is operating in accordance with FCC rules, under the same authorization (the 1934 Act).

Or, under a not-much-bigger stretch, anyone carrying a cellular phone into a building could be required to allow the FCC in for an "inspection" of their transmitting device.

The last step is to "inspect," without a warrant, any device covered under FCC regulations. Which includes ANYTHING that can emit radio frequencies. Like the computer you're reading this text on.
5.22.2009 10:23am
Dave N (mail):
Seems like a power grab on the FCC's part. I would hope someone challenges them on this absurd claim.
5.22.2009 10:49am
Gabriel McCall (mail):
The Interstate Communications Act has some fascinating language that says that they cannot regulate intrastate transmission except that they can.


2: The provisions of this act shall apply to all interstate and foreign communication by wire or radio... subject to the provisions of section 301 and title VI, nothing in this Act shall be construed to apply or to give the Commission jurisdiction with respect to (1) charges, classifications, practices, services, facilities,or regulations for or in connection with intrastate communication service by wire or radio of any carrier...

301: No person shall use or operate any apparatus for the transmission of energy or communications or signals by radio (a) from one place in any State, Territory, or possession of the United States or in the District of Columbia to another place in the same State, Territory, possession, or District; ... except under and in accordance with this Act and with a license in that behalf granted under the provisions of this Act.


This is much like a package marked:

THIS PRODUCT IS AWESOME!!!!*

*product is not actually awesome.
5.22.2009 10:51am
Yankev (mail):
Does anyone know if the so-called "smart gun" technology relies on RF to enable or disable the firearm? If it does, wouldn't this policy (if upheld) give the FCC the right to conduct a warrantless search of any premises owned, possessed, or even briefly occupied by someone who owned a so-called smart gun?
5.22.2009 10:56am
zuch (mail) (www):
cirby:
Here's the really sketchy part: under the FCC's interpretation of this, they can take a fairly minor extra step and inspect any building or home containing a working RF transmitter, at any time the device is in operation.
Here's the rub. Even my blender (or my cell phone charger) can be a "working RF transmitter". To be sure, they might want to be able to see what's causing the interference when the neighbour complains about snow or pixelated satellite TV, and that's supposedly what they're trying to do (in some cases), and for that, inspection of devices (and advice on remediation) might be warranted.

Cheers,
5.22.2009 10:57am
George Smith:
One day it will be KNOCK, KNOCK,KNOCK, open up, we know you're listening to Rush Limbaugh in there!
5.22.2009 10:57am
rosetta's stones:
One day it will be KABOOM and an airburst nuke pulse is gonna disable everything, and the FCC will be chiseling search warrants onto stone tablets.
5.22.2009 11:05am
Patrick from OZ (mail):
hahaha I don't normally find that much in common with rosetta's stones but that made me laugh.

Of course on that day it will be impossible to actually operate equipment under FCC or any rules so it will be impossible for the FCC to have any reasonable grounds for a search. Small comfort perhaps in the circumstances...
5.22.2009 11:16am
Oren:

Seems like a power grab on the FCC's part. I would hope someone challenges them on this absurd claim.

Hard to challenge if they don't actually assert authority to enter or attempt to levy penalties against refuseniks.

There's probably no 4A violation for posting a notice with an incorrect claim of power on someone's door. (Paging OK, am I right here -- what would the FCC need to do to for a target to actually have standing?)
5.22.2009 11:21am
einhverfr (mail) (www):
Hmmm..... After reading the actual policy/form letter this is quite troubling.

The first thing that jumps out is that this is intended to apply to businesses. The emphasis on "hours of operation" is interesting and seems to be premised on:

1) This being a business rather than residential situation.
2) There actually being someone around.

I see no requirement that someone ACTUALLY BE AROUND to give the FCC access. Therefore, if you put a transmitter in an unattended, locked facility and stream audio data to it, this would seem to preclude inspection.

It would seem to me that a court might be able to draw a line between professional radio broadcasting equipment (for example, the 100W transmitter) and consumer equipment which might require a warrant.

I am also imagining:
"You want to inspect our equipment? Ok. Please wait here for a moment."

five minutes later:

"Here is the equipment. I had to turn it off and disconnect it to bring it out to you. Feel free to inspect it. Also I don't have a 50 foot extension cord to plug it in here. Hope you brought one. Technically the front lawn is part of our premises, so this is still an on-premise inspection. Oh, and frequency has to be reprogrammed on power up....."
5.22.2009 11:22am
cirby (mail):
I hate to break it to you, but it's currently pretty much impossible to operate equipment completely legally under FCC rules NOW. All an EMP would do would be to make it slightly harder for you to prove your innocence.

"We need to come into your hovel and inspect it to see if any of your equipment is operating illegally."

"I only have a dead wireless router, and I'm using it to prop up my bookshelf."

"But it's covered under FCC regs, and if you don't let us inspect it, we're going to fine you three pigs and a small goat."

(one inspection later)

"We're going to have to confiscate this router, and still fine you the pigs and the goat."

"What? Why?"

"Well, it MIGHT be transmitting. Better safe than sorry."
5.22.2009 11:24am
Guest12345:

Of course on that day it will be impossible to actually operate equipment under FCC or any rules so it will be impossible for the FCC to have any reasonable grounds for a search. Small comfort perhaps in the circumstances...


Given that said air burst nuke would be a substantial EM transmitter, I think there's going to be some serious scrutiny applied to the FCC wondering why they didn't regulate said nuke in the first place.
5.22.2009 11:24am
Tony Tutins (mail):
What I learned from a retired FCC field guy: The FCC agent is obliged to inspect transmitters, he has the authority to inspect transmitters, but he has no authority for forced entry.

If the equipment operator refuses to allow inspection, the FCC agent will issue a Notice of Violation or an equivalent Warning Notice.

If the operator still refuses to allow inspections, the FCC can penalize him administratively (suspend whatever licenses he may have), or monetarily (civil fines). If that still doesn't work, the FCC agent can apply to the District Court for a search and seizure warrant. Such a warrant would be executed by armed U.S. Marshals, "using appropriate force," whether or not the occupant is present, and not the FCC agent,
5.22.2009 11:33am
Tony Tutins (mail):

The emphasis on "hours of operation"

No, this is an artifact of when people operated transmitters solely by speaking into them: excessive power CB transmitters, off-band amateur transmitters, pirate radio, etc.
5.22.2009 11:38am
Gabriel McCall (mail):
but he has no authority for forced entry.

"Let me in vountarily or you will be fined and delicensed" stretches the definition of "voluntarily".
5.22.2009 11:43am
Tony Tutins (mail):

they cannot regulate intrastate transmission except that they can.

Back in the dear dead days, there was "regulation" carried out by "commerce commissions," which required communications providers to supply "tariffs" to be "approved."

The FCC is not regulating that aspect of intrastate communication, only the technical part.
5.22.2009 11:45am
Tony Tutins (mail):

"Let me in vountarily or you will be fined and delicensed" stretches the definition of "voluntarily".

In a similar regulatory environment, if I see cop lights in the rear view mirror, I voluntarily pull over to the curb.

If they have no authorization from the FCC, they could not possibly have accepted the obligation that comes with it.

True, but you have to stop for the police even if you don't have a license. I assume they have some authority to do so.
5.22.2009 11:53am
cirby (mail):

"In a similar regulatory environment, if I see cop lights in the rear view mirror, I voluntarily pull over to the curb."


...and when he asks you if he can search your car, the answer is "no." The police officer cannot then give you a ticket for "failure to allow search," or "might have had something in the trunk."

A more comparable example would be if a police officer shows up at your front door, wanting to find out if you have a bunch of illegal drugs in your bedroom. If he doesn't have a warrant, he can't fine you for refusing to allow him in.

Refusal to allow a search is NOT an admission of guilt.

Unless it's the FCC at the door.
5.22.2009 12:11pm
Oren:


Refusal to allow a search is NOT an admission of guilt.


Refusal to allow a search is not admission of guilt of having illegal narcotics in the premises.

Refusal to allow a search is admission of guilt in violation of the terms of your license that require you to submit to searches.
5.22.2009 12:20pm
einhverfr (mail) (www):
Tony:

No, this is an artifact of when people operated transmitters solely by speaking into them: excessive power CB transmitters, off-band amateur transmitters, pirate radio, etc.


Sure. However, with the advent of the internet, you could buy a small house in an economically depressed place, put your transmitter there, keep it locked and unoccupied, and they would have to find YOU (when you could be halfway across the country) to let you in for the inspection. Or they could just get a search warrant.
5.22.2009 12:36pm
Dan Weber (www):
Refusal to allow a search is admission of guilt in violation of the terms of your license that require you to submit to searches.
If I am a radio station operator, I can assume that there will be ramifications for refusing to let the FCC in, possibly including my transmission license.

But if I have no interest in having a license or in transmitting EM waves outside my house, I don't see what I'm admitting by refusing to let them in.
5.22.2009 12:37pm
Dan Weber (www):
By the way, was I the only one who came up with multiple parsings for the headline

FCC’s Warrantless Household Searches Alarm Experts
5.22.2009 12:38pm
cirby (mail):

Refusal to allow a search is admission of guilt in violation of the terms of your license that require you to submit to searches.


...except that, according to the FCC, a license is not a requirement for allowing a search.

They claim they have:

"authority to inspect all radio installations associated with stations required to be licensed by any Act, or which the Commission by rule has authorized to operate without a license under section 307(e)(1), or which are subject to the provisions of any Act, treaty, or convention binding on the United States . . ."

They also state "Both licensees and non-licensees must allow an FCC Agent to inspect their radio equipment." A lot of non-licensed devices are in use - many more than the strictly-licensed ones like FM radio transmitters and TV stations.

Basically, that mean ANY electronic device which emits RF falls under FCC control. Such as a wireless router. Or a computer. The next time you buy a wireless router or a computer, look at all of the included documents, including the FCC certification (I have one for my infrared cable box remote, for example). Surprise!

Before the Telecom Act of 1934 was enacted, there was a big problem with people just firing up radio stations whenever they wanted to, interfering with other, established stations. That was what this Act was supposed to prevent.

Unfortunately, with the addition of things like Wi-Fi and cell phones, the FCC has a lot more to regulate - and a lot more power than they should have.

They do NOT need to randomly walk into someone's home or office to determine if they're running an illegal radio station. All they have to do is prove that a transmission is coming from a certain location, take it to a judge, get them to sign a warrant, and search the place legally...
5.22.2009 12:42pm
gallileo:
Dan Weber:

Because if you have nothing to hide, any search is fine, right?
5.22.2009 12:44pm
Oren:
cirby, true. Let me rephrase:



Refusal to allow a search is not admission of guilt of having illegal narcotics in the premises.

Refusal to allow a search is admission of guilt in violation of the terms of your license that require you to submit to searches if you have such a license

Refusal to allow a search is admission of guilt in violation of a statute that requires you to submit to searches if such a statute can legally create such an obligation.

IOW, refusal to allow a search is always admissible evidence that you refused to allow a search. Whether or not you can be penalized for refusal to allow a search is a different matter entirely.
5.22.2009 12:45pm
Dan Weber (www):
Because if you have nothing to hide, any search is fine, right?
Perhaps I was unclear, but I meant to suggest the opposite, that people should be free to refuse search.


Oren, you may be describing the law correctly, but I think it bites that the FCC can demand entry to my house without a warrant, even if I have no wires or electricity at all, under threat of fines.
5.22.2009 12:54pm
cirby (mail):

if such a statute can legally create such an obligation.


In other words, if the statute can override one of the Amendments to the United States Constitution...
5.22.2009 12:55pm
Oren:

In other words, if the statute can override one of the Amendments to the United States Constitution...

Objection -- begging the question.

It is not established (although I concur with Orin that it's highly likely) that the statute does, in fact, conflict with the 4A.
5.22.2009 12:59pm
Oren:

Perhaps I was unclear, but I meant to suggest the opposite, that people should be free to refuse search.

I concur with the "should" prong of this sentence.


Oren, you may be describing the law correctly, but I think it bites that the FCC can demand entry to my house without a warrant, even if I have no wires or electricity at all, under threat of fines.

Well, I don't think the law is like that but that's entirely separate from the absurd statements that refusal to allow a search cannot be used as evidence of refusal to allow a search.
5.22.2009 1:00pm
gasman (mail):
“Anything using RF energy — we have the right to inspect it to make sure it is not causing interference,”


Sitting in my office right now I can see more than a dozen objects that would emit RF energy, either as their primary function (cell phone) or as a byproduct of their normal usage (computer monitor).
Unless you're amish nothing is safe.
5.22.2009 1:15pm
cirby (mail):

It is not established (although I concur with Orin that it's highly likely) that the statute does, in fact, conflict with the 4A.


You yourself just insisted that they can, through administrative means, force you to allow a search "if such a statute can legally create such an obligation."

"I have an idea. We want to search people's homes without their permission, and without having to go through all of that tedious 'warrant' stuff. We'll just write a law that allows us to search people's homes and businesses if we can pretend we have a statute to back it up."

In what way does this NOT conflict with the Fourth?

How about writing something into car registrations that forces "an obligation" for people to allow searches of their cars? Or extending the FCC regs on computers to force you to allow searches by the FCC and other law enforcement officials, at any time the computer is in use?

Seems to me that this sort of thing was recently rejected by the Supremes...
5.22.2009 1:18pm
Oren:
cirby, you are interpreting my words uncharitably.
5.22.2009 1:30pm
Careless:

cirby, you are interpreting my words uncharitably.

Oren channeling Orin, it seems.
5.22.2009 1:30pm
Fub:
From the Wired article:
The notice spooked those running “Boulder Free Radio,” who thought it was just tough talk intended to scare them into shutting down, according to one of the station’s leaders, who spoke to Wired.com on condition of anonymity. “This is an intimidation thing,” he said. “Most people aren’t that dedicated to the cause. I’m not going to let them into my house.”
There is insufficient information in the article to determine whether "Boulder Free Radio" is/was operating an unlicensed transmitter of more than 100 milliwatts ERP on a band allocated for broadcast. But my bet is that BFR is doing so, ie: that BFR is a "pirate" broadcast station.

In FCC actions actions against pirates of which I have been aware (as told me by a retired chief of an area enforcement division), they raided the transmitter premises only after considerable "dialog" with the transmitter operator (ie: C&D type letters which the operator replied to with nose thumbing, evasive action by moving transmitter around, etc.).

The pirate was operating what, if licensed, would be a class D FM station (ie: LEQ 100 Watts ERP). His operation was commercial. He was not just playing music for a few friends on his block. You can do that with a perfectly legal 100 milliwatts. The 1 millivolt/meter contour for 100 Watts ERP covers a very large area. He was interfering with licensed broadcasters over a huge part of a major metropolitan area. His transmissions were not "accidental".

They finally found and nailed him. They got warrants. He was convicted in federal court after a long trial involving "free speech" issues and got a wrist slap. One consequence of being convicted of operating an unauthorized radio transmitter on broadcast bands is loss of the privilege of obtaining a license. You have to work very hard to be convicted of that.
5.22.2009 1:52pm
John Moore (www):
Having assisted the FCC in enforcement operations, I agree with Tony Tutins report. The FCC cannot do warrrant-less searches without permission. If they suspect illegal operations from a location, they can ask for entry and be refused, and they can ask a judge for a warrant. When I was last involved, FCC field engineers were not sworn LEO's.

If they believe illegal operations are taking place, they can pursue the situation in administrative court (or criminal court for certain offenses, such as jamming emergency communications). Their technical means for determining violations are often enough to establish responsibility without a search.

"Bootleg" radio stations are a common target for FCC. They are found through direction finding. Then the problem becomes determining responsibility. There are other technical means for establishing responsibility beyond just DF. Once caught, bootleggers are normally administratively fined, and if they repeat, may be criminally prosecuted.

If you have a device you purchased and it is doing something illegal without your knowledge, you are not in jeopardy. If it is causing interference, you may be required (FCC letter or court order if necessary) to terminate the interference.
5.22.2009 1:55pm
Fub:
I previously wrote:
The 1 millivolt/meter contour for 100 Watts ERP covers a very large area.
Should be "microvolt".
5.22.2009 1:56pm
Tatil:
FCC agent decides to do the inspection if a higher than normal RF emission is observed.

versus

FCC agents tell a judge that they observe a higher than normal RF emission and ask for a warrant. The judge will not send somebody else to measure these emissions. He will just take the agents' word for it, so unlike a probable cause type of thing he cannot look at the evidence and make his own judgement about whether the warrant should be granted. Therefore, a warrant requirement would only slow down the inspection, it would not protect anybody from any abuse. I don't see a big deal.
5.22.2009 2:25pm
Fub:
Tatil wrote at 5.22.2009 2:25pm:
... [A judge] will just take the agents' word for it, so unlike a probable cause type of thing he cannot look at the evidence and make his own judgement about whether the warrant should be granted. ...
Judges do not "look at the evidence" in that sense before issuing warrants in any other cases either. Warrants are issued on the basis of sworn statements by the officers seeking the warrant.
5.22.2009 2:46pm
Sam H (mail):
Gabriel McCall
"nothing in this Act shall be construed to apply or to give the Commission jurisdiction with respect to (1) charges, classifications, practices, services, facilities,or regulations for or in connection with intrastate communication service by wire or radio of any carrier..."

This is because the States have control of intrastate communications. The FCC regulates common carrier radio transmitters, but not the content if it is intrastate.
5.22.2009 4:11pm
einhverfr (mail) (www):
I think the issue here might be different where there is a professional radio broadcasting setup and where there is an FCC-regulated consumer device. It would seem to be blatantly unconstitutional if the FCC could demand entry to your house with no reason to inspect your electric razor or even 802.11 access point.
5.22.2009 4:55pm
FWB (mail):
ALL searches without a warrant are UNREASONABLE as per the standard read of the 4th in the 19th century. The current paradigm is an invention of corrupted minds.

See Cooley.

Beyond that the fed has no authority to regulate in this area as is evidenced by the 18th amendment. No power to regulate things so amendments delegating the power(s) are required.



Tiochfaidh ar la!
5.22.2009 5:13pm
einhverfr (mail) (www):
FWB:

ALL searches without a warrant are UNREASONABLE as per the standard read of the 4th in the 19th century. The current paradigm is an invention of corrupted minds.


Not so. Ships could be searched without a warrant. Hence the origin of the automobile exception in Caroll.
5.22.2009 6:24pm
geokstr (mail):
Once right-wing hate radio is finally officially banished, it will spring up again as illegal underground transmissions on cable or microwaves or ultra-low frequencies. Then it will be necessary to enable the FCC to have such powers in order to seize the illegal receivers.

As anther commenter on another thread said, you may have the right to free speech, but you don't have the right to listen.
5.22.2009 6:30pm
David Schwartz (mail):
Tatil: The difference is that there will be a paper trail documenting who said what and when in such a way that there are consequences if they made mistakes or lied.
5.22.2009 6:46pm
fishbane (mail):
The FCC cannot do warrrant-less searches without permission. If they suspect illegal operations from a location, they can ask for entry and be refused, and they can ask a judge for a warrant. When I was last involved, FCC field engineers were not sworn LEO's.

I wanted to make a joke about the bastard child of Radley Balko and Christian Slater, by comparing administrative searches like this with the ones used when SWAT teams are deployed "to assist" alcohol inspectors, but the whole state vs. fed angle ruined it.
5.23.2009 9:19am
Mikeyes (mail):
FCC FAQ sheet on inspections

In it they say, among other things, that the inspector can look at your transmitter and paperwork but not inspect your cabinets, etc. According to the FAQ this is a civil proceeding that is inherent to your licensing or potential licensing if you are operating an illegal station.

I think that the definition of "station" is crucial here as it does not mean any RF emmitter but only the ones that the FCC regulates all of which have a warning on them, I think.

As an Amateur Radio operator I have to let the FCC inspectors in to see my logs and measure the output of my equipment as part of having the license.
5.23.2009 3:10pm
ReaderY:
What did the alarm experts say after they were searched by the warrantless houselhold?
5.25.2009 9:48pm

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