U.S. Presidents Arguing Before the Supreme Court:

Which U.S. Presidents have -- at some point in their careers -- argued before the Supreme Court? I know of only one (thanks to Ira Matetsky), but there might have been others. Note that I'm not looking for cases in which Presidents sued or were sued, but ones that they personally argued as lawyers.

Bill N:
Taft as Solicitor General
7.8.2009 1:34pm
Aeon J. Skoble (mail):
John Quincy Adams
7.8.2009 1:37pm
dr:
JQA, who did so while dressed as Anthony Hopkins, with Steven Spielberg filming.
7.8.2009 1:38pm
Eugene Volokh (www):
Ah, thanks! I'd forgotten about John Quincy Adams, and I hadn't known that Taft had been Solicitor General. But there is (at least) one more.
7.8.2009 1:42pm
Mark Tushnet (mail):
Richard Nixon, in Time Inc. v.Hill.
7.8.2009 1:42pm
Aeon J. Skoble (mail):
Also, isn't there at least one president who was _on_ the court? But I guess that wouldn't count as arguing _before_ the court.
7.8.2009 1:46pm
ChrisIowa (mail):
I was told a long time ago that Abraham Lincoln argued a case before the Supreme Court concerning the first bridge across the Mississippi River. A river boat ran into the bridge and the Steamship Company sued the Rock Island Railroad, the owner of the bridge to have the bridge removed as a nuisance. The court found that the railroad had as much right to cross the river as the steamship line had to travel along it. Lincoln was the lawyer for the railroad.

I saw something recently that lead me to believe it was argued while he was President, which would mean that he probably didn't argue it to the SC, being busy with other things. I've not followed up so I'm not too sure.
7.8.2009 1:47pm
Hannibal Lector:
I'm pretty sure Lincoln argued a case before the Court having something to do with railroads.
7.8.2009 1:47pm
Anon. Lincoln buff:
Lincoln in Lewis v. Lewis, 7 How. (48 U.S.) 776 (1849). Lincoln's participation in the oral argument is described in Brian McGinty's Lincoln & The Court (2008), at p.18.
7.8.2009 1:55pm
SomeCleverName:
I think Lincoln only argued before the Illinois Supreme Court, but I could be wrong. I assume Prof. Volokh means the U.S. Supreme Court.
7.8.2009 1:59pm
SomeCleverName:
Strike "could be wrong" and substitute "am wrong."
7.8.2009 2:00pm
Jack Smith (mail):
Rudolph Guiliani.
7.8.2009 2:04pm
Trivial Info:

I hadn't known that Taft had been Solicitor General.


He was SG from February 1890 - March 1892 (he was 32 years old when he started that job).
7.8.2009 2:10pm
Bruce:
Whoa, thanks Mark, I didn't know about Nixon's involvement in Time v. Hill. Arguments here.
7.8.2009 2:12pm
William Spieler (mail) (www):
Adams and Lincoln aren't on oyez.org's list of advocates, and Nixon's biography is blank.
7.8.2009 2:16pm
Bill N:

Nixon's biography is blank.

Rosemary Woods strikes again!
7.8.2009 2:21pm
Aeon J. Skoble (mail):
William- don't know about Abe or Dick, but 40 US 518, John Quincy Adams for the defendants, is for real.
7.8.2009 2:22pm
CJColucci:
Charles Evans Hughes went to bed thinking he was President, but while he slept the California returns came in for Wilson.
7.8.2009 2:24pm
James Garfield:
I argued Ex Marte Milligan before becoming President.
7.8.2009 2:31pm
James Garfield:
Sorry, I meant Ex Parte Milligan. I must have confused it with left-handed relief pitcher Damaso Marte. I became a Yankees fan here in the afterlife, you see.
7.8.2009 2:33pm
DDG:
In fact, Garfield's first argument of any kind as an attorney was before the Supreme Court in Milligan.
7.8.2009 2:35pm
krs:
I only knew about Taft. From an article about Paul Clement's hearing before the judiciary committee:


At 38, Clement would be the youngest solicitor general since William Howard Taft, 32. Asked about this comparison with the last president to have facial hair and the only one to ever get stuck in the White House while bathing, the svelte Clement replied, "So far, I have managed to make it out of the bathtub."
7.8.2009 2:40pm
Chicago:
I have nothing useful to add, but I would like to note my continued astonishment at how blogs (and the Internet more generally) can help us gather so much information in so little time.
7.8.2009 2:42pm
CvMe:
According to a 2003 article from the Journal of Supreme Court History, there were 8 presidents who argued in the Supreme Court. The abstract is available online and mentions John Q Adams and Nixon. Others identified in this thread are Taft, Garfield, Lincoln, which leaves one more. Who is it?

According to Wikipedia's list of Presidents by occupation, 24 of Presidents have been lawyers. 25% of those arguing before the high court is a pretty good percentage!

Wikipedia's list of lawyer-Presidents:

John Adams
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
James Monroe
John Quincy Adams
Andrew Jackson
Martin Van Buren
John Tyler
James Polk
Millard Fillmore
Franklin Pierce
James Buchanan
Abraham Lincoln
Rutherford Hayes
Chester Arthur
Benjamin Harrison
William Taft
Woodrow Wilson
Calvin Coolidge
Franklin Roosevelt
Richard Nixon
Gerald Ford
Bill Clinton
Barak Obama
7.8.2009 2:49pm
CvMe:
Um. Can't count. Substiute "3 more - who are they" and "33%"
7.8.2009 2:50pm
martinned (mail) (www):
@CvMe: Do you have a precise cite for the article? Maybe someone reading this thread has access to it...
7.8.2009 2:52pm
Patrick Baud (mail) (www):

Also, isn't there at least one president who was _on_ the court? But I guess that wouldn't count as arguing _before_ the court.


Taft served on the Court from 1921 until a month before his death in 1930.
7.8.2009 2:54pm
Aeon J. Skoble (mail):
Wow, I didn't know Jackson was a lawyer as well as a General. Busy guy.
7.8.2009 2:55pm
martinned (mail) (www):
OK, it turns out I have access to full text articles of the Journal of Supreme Court History myself. The article is Sharp (2003), Presidents as Supreme Court Advocates: Before and After the White House, Journal of Supreme Court History; 2003, Vol. 28 Issue 2, p116-144, 29p.
7.8.2009 3:00pm
martinned (mail) (www):
The article lists the following:

John Quincy Adams
James Polk
Abraham Lincoln
James Garfield
Grover Cleveland
Benjamin Harrison
William Howard Taft
Richard Nixon
7.8.2009 3:02pm
Eugene Volokh (www):
Cool, thanks for all the information! Nixon is the one that prompted this post, and he seems from the comments above to be the only one since 1900.
7.8.2009 3:30pm
Lior:
The article notes that Cleveland and Harrison argued cases before Justices they themselves had appointed to the Court. Taft, on the other hand, refused to appear in any Federal court after his presidency to avoid this situation.
7.8.2009 3:55pm
TDK:
I'm sure Bill Clinton and Barack Obama claimed they did. They have done everything.
7.8.2009 4:02pm
Paul B:
What is remarkable by today's standards at least is that Lincoln argued a case before the Supreme Court while serving in the House of Representatives. Nothing to do with his political inclinations, just part of his role as an attorney.

While the Republicans were more than happy to describe him to the voters as the rail splitter who grew up in a log cabin, the reality is that he was one of the top attorneys in Illinois, arguing more than 150 cases before the Illinois Supreme Court.
7.8.2009 4:13pm
Can't find a good name:
Reportedly, Nixon threatened to sue ABC for libel for the way they presented him in the 1989 TV movie "The Final Days," but apparently he didn't do so because of the precedent of Time, Inc. v. Hill -- the case he had lost when arguing before the Supreme Court.
7.8.2009 4:35pm
Bill Brennan:
Brennan apparently told people that Nixon was the best advocate he'd ever seen before the Court.

Off-topic, but close: Did Clinton ever get his bar ticket back, so that he could still hope to get to Court?
7.8.2009 5:03pm
geokstr (mail):

Aeon J. Skoble:
Wow, I didn't know Jackson was a lawyer as well as a General. Busy guy.

He was probably the first with the now common title - "Attorney General".

:-)
7.8.2009 5:21pm
Saadi:
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Off-topic, but close: Did Clinton ever get his bar ticket back, so that he could still hope to get to Court?
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You have to be admitted to practice before the US Supreme Court separately by showing at least 3 years of membership in a state bar with a clean record and obtaining the sponsorship of 2 current members of the Supreme Court bar. Even if Clinton was restored to good standing with the Arkansas bar, no attorney with averse disciplinary actions on his record would be admitted to the SCOTUS bar.
7.8.2009 5:24pm
geokstr (mail):

Bill Brennan:
Off-topic, but close: Did Clinton ever get his bar ticket back, so that he could still hope to get to Court?

You mean he could actually have a chance even after being forced to give up his license for five years for a breach of professional conduct while in charge of enforcing the laws of this country? Prior bad acts must not be admissable in a confirmation hearing either.
7.8.2009 5:26pm
Ira B. Matetsky (mail):

What is remarkable by today's standards at least is that Lincoln argued a case before the Supreme Court while serving in the House of Representatives. Nothing to do with his political inclinations, just part of his role as an attorney.

More recently, Arlen Specter argued Dalton v. Specter, 511 U.S. 462 (1994), while serving in the Senate.
7.8.2009 5:32pm
Burt Likko (mail) (www):
geokstr -- I think Clinton doesn't have any particular need of bar admission at this point of his life. What would he do with a license to practice law, represent plaintiffs in employment discrimination cases?
7.8.2009 6:01pm
A.L. (mail) (www):
Someone beat me to it, but James Garfield played a pivotal role in arguing Ex Parte Milligan. Despite being a radical Republican and militant unionist, he argued on behalf of Milligan, defending his right to a jury trial and attacking the idea that citizens could be tried by military commission. I believe it was the first and only case he ever argued, at any level, and he was very influencial. It was a very Nixon-to-China kind of moment. It would be like Dick Cheney arguing before the Supreme Court on behalf of Jose Padilla or Ali al-Marri.
7.8.2009 6:30pm
Anon. Lincoln buff:

What is remarkable by today's standards at least is that Lincoln argued a case before the Supreme Court while serving in the House of Representatives.


Not to be pedantic about it -- OK, who am I fooling, but that's what the interwebs are for, right? -- but Lincoln's oral argument in Lewis v Lewis took place on March 7 & 8, 1849, only days after his term as a Representative came to an end on March 4. The dates of his argument come from McGinty's book referenced in my earlier post; the end of his tenure in the House from
7.8.2009 8:18pm
Anon. Lincoln buff:
Well, if I could only figure out how to post a link. Timeline of Lincoln's political career:

Lincoln's political career
7.8.2009 8:21pm
GeoBarto (www):
I was surprised to see how many Presidents had argued before the Supreme Court so I googled around a little bit. Here's the really weird part about Ex Parte Milligan:

We know that Garfield argued for the defense and won: Milligan was set free.

After that, though, Milligan sued for damages. He sought $5000, but was awarded only a symbolic $5 plus costs. The government's advocate was Benjamin Harrison.
(Note: The civil trial wasn't a Supreme Court case.)
7.8.2009 8:30pm
autolykos:

geokstr -- I think Clinton doesn't have any particular need of bar admission at this point of his life. What would he do with a license to practice law, represent plaintiffs in employment discrimination cases?


I've heard about Clinton that he deeply wanted to follow Taft and be a Justice after his presidency was over. I don't remember where or when, but I remember hearing it somewhere (maybe just the voices in my head). Of course, that just begs the question, do you need a license to be a Justice (or even a judge)? I'd imagine the answer is yes (if only because our profession likes to protect its own), but I can see arguments for why it wouldn't be required (after all, you're not representing clients, so the consumer protection rationale for licensing attorneys doesn't hold).

As an aside, I have to say this is one of the most interesting threads I've read in a long time.
7.8.2009 10:25pm
ChrisIowa (mail):

Of course, that just begs the question, do you need a license to be a Justice (or even a judge)? I'd imagine the answer is yes (if only because our profession likes to protect its own), but I can see arguments for why it wouldn't be required (after all, you're not representing clients, so the consumer protection rationale for licensing attorneys doesn't hold).

All that is needed is a nomination by the President and confirmation by the Senate. No stated requirement to be an attorney.
7.8.2009 11:08pm
Vermando (mail) (www):
Someone above mentioned Andrew Jackson also having been a lawyer. Not only that, but I believe I remember reading that he was also a justice on the Tennessee state Supreme Court before ascending to the presidency - it puts into perspective those who cite him as an example of our need to put more non-elitists and non-credentialed people into the White House - though my memory could be faulty.

Huey Long also argued a case before the Court - Justice Taft called him the finest advocate he'd ever heard - though I suppose he never made the final step necessary to make it into the present discussion.
7.9.2009 12:38am
JonC:

All that is needed is a nomination by the President and confirmation by the Senate. No stated requirement to be an attorney.


Indeed, the Solicitor General is the only federal official required by statute to be "learned in the law."
7.9.2009 11:29am
JonC:
Vermando: Jackson was in fact on the TN Supreme Court, from 1798-1804.
7.9.2009 11:31am
JeffDG:
JonC's post got me to wondering...

I know there are USSC justices who never went to college (Justice Jackson comes to mind immediately)...are there states where you could be admitted to the bar without attending law school on the strength of a "self-study" program?
7.9.2009 2:43pm
EcoLawyer:
Virginia still allows "law readers" to study under a bar member's tutelage and take the bar without going to law school.
7.9.2009 3:01pm
New Pseudonym:

Wow, I didn't know Jackson was a lawyer as well as a General. Busy guy.


Brevet Major General Rutherford Hayes, Brigadier General Chester Arthur, and Brigadier General Benjamin Harrison were all generals as well as lawyers.

Why is Garfield not on the list of lawyers who were president? (Oh, and before you ask, he was a Major General).
7.9.2009 10:18pm

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