My dad gave me a Kodak LS 443 digital camera that he never used. I took about 150 pictures with it, and then it completely froze after receiving an "E45" error message. Checking the Internet, I discovered that this is a very common hardware error with this camera model, and was warned that (a) Kodak will no longer fix it; and (b) that they will offer a newer camera model instead.
Sure enough, a call to Kodak resulted in the following email:
Currently we are no longer repairing the LS443. We would like to make you aware of our new camera repair by replacement program. To reduce the need to store replacement parts that often went unused, Kodak has recently established a corporate policy of replacing out-of-warranty cameras with models of equal or better quality.
At this time, for what may be less than the cost to repair your LS443, we are able to offer you a refurbished Kodak EasyShare Z730 zoom digital camera (with Kodak EasyShare camera dock) for $150.00. You are upgrading to newer digital imaging technology and receiving a full one-year warranty.
Gee, thanks. Your crappy camera gave out after 150 pictures, you won't fix it even though it's apparently a widespread flaw, and you're offering me the opportunity to buy a reconditioned Kodak camera for $50 less than a could get a brand new one.
The really bad news is that there is such a bewildering array of digital cameras out there, I have no idea which one to buy. I'd like one that's reasonably priced, takes nice shots, and assumes that I know nothing about photography, and don't want to learn. PCWorld seemed like a good place to start, but I'm a bit puzzled over whether it's worth spending $100 or so more to get more megapixels.
UPDATE: I decided to go with the Canon PowerShot A520 Digital Camera, because it was highly recommended by CNET, PCWorld, and Consumer Reports, the only entry-level camera that won such unanimous accolades. Bought it from Dell, using a series of coupon codes I found at slickdeals.net that brought the price to $204 including tax, shipping, and a 512 MB memory card.
[And here's another authority that recommends the A520.]
check it out on the above-mentioned sites. The only downside is that it's less portable, but its video capabilities... wow.
I'm no great digital camera expert, although I used to do serious art photography with large format (5x7) cameras - black and white only. I'd love to go back to it using digital, but printing quality B&W in large sizes needs an expensive printer and more megapixels than I can afford right now.
In the meantime, I use an old Fuji FinePix S3000 (3.2 MP) for taking general photos - mainly documentation photos of the industrial control systems that I design &build. The Fuji cost me about $150 at Target - a discontinued display model - no case (OK) and no manual (no sweat - it's on the web).
It uses 4 AA alkaline batteries, which are cheap and available anywhere. This model has a 6X optical zoom lens (which means that you don't lose pixels when you zoom, which you do in a software zoom). The viewfinder is apparently an LCD, but it looks as though you were looking through an SLR viewfinder (of course it has the usual "large" LCD on the back - you can switch between them). Very nice and bright. They use a memory card which is nearly Fuji-exclusive, but they are available at decent prices from places like Tiger Direct and so forth.
Point is, the Fuji Finepix series (the big, bulky models, not the micro-mini style) seem to be pretty good cameras for the money, and they are somewhat over 3.2 MP these days.
I would say, that for most ordinary photography where you don't intend to make huge prints or blow up tiny areas of the picture, that 4 to 6 MP is plenty. Go for as much optical zoom capability as possible, and put in a memory card large enough to store at least 100 photos at max resolution and you should be set.
Oh yes, and take dave Friedman's advice about DPReview.com.
Good luck
PS - you might want to avoid Kodak...
Best values for most people:
Canon PowerShot A510 $170. Canon PowerShot A520 $175
Sony Cyber-shot DSC-S60 , $200
All have excellent print quality and are low-priced for 3- or 4-megapixel compact cameras. The Canons have manual controls, 4x zoom, and are CR Best Buys. The Sony has long battery life, but lacks manual controls.
For additional flexibility:
Kodak, $250, Olympus, $250, Canon, $350
All have excellent print quality, manual controls, and 4- or 5-megapixel resolution. The Kodak EasyShare Z700 (5) and Olympus C-5500 Sport Zoom (6) have a 5x zoom lens. The latter has an image stabilizer but also a long next-shot delay. The Canon PowerShot A95 has very long battery life.
For a camera that fits in a purse:
28 Casio, $380
31 Canon, $260
33 Sony, $240, CR Best Buy
All of these are small and light, with excellent or very good print quality and good battery life, but they lack manual controls. The Canon PowerShot SD300 (31) has a short next-shot delay. The Sony Cyber-shot DSC-L1 (33) is low-priced for a subcompact, but its flash range is just 7 feet. The Casio Exilim Zoom EX-Z750 (28) is relatively high-priced but is slimmer than other subcompacts, has image stabilization, and shoots higher-quality video than other subcompacts.
For an advanced compact camera:
56 Fujifilm, $275
58 Canon, $260
All have excellent print quality and manual controls. The low-priced Fujifilm FinePix E550 (56) is relatively lightweight, with a short next-shot delay. The low-priced Canon PowerShot S60 (58) has a very wide-angle lens.
For a long zoom range:
66 Sony, $440
68 Panasonic, $340
70 Olympus, $270, CR Best Buy
71 Canon, $255, CR Best Buy
The Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ5 (68) has a 12x zoom and image stabilizer, excellent battery life, and a short next-shot delay. The Olympus C-765 Ultra Zoom (70) is low-priced and relatively lightweight, with a 10x zoom. But its battery life was among the lowest of the super-zoom models'. The 3-megapixel Canon PowerShot S1IS (71) is low-priced and has a 10x zoom and stabilizer, but it also has a long next-shot delay. It records video clips up to the memory card's limit. The Sony Cyber-shot DSC-H1 (66) has a 12x zoom, excellent battery life, and a short next-shot delay. It's high-priced, but it shoots higher-quality video (VGA resolution) than other super-zoom models.
And as for why Best Buy? Because they have a service policy of replacing defective cameras with new ones. You walk in with a bad one and walk out 30 minutes later with a new one and if they don't have that model they upgrade you for free.
BK
David, this sounds like one of those leftist criticisms of the market, you know the sort, the bewildering array of consumer products under capitalism sort of criticism. Do you now think there is some merit to this argument? :)
I've bought probably 2 dozen camera since.
For carrying around, use a Sony Cybershot DSC-V3. I shoot in lowlight ambulance calls and love the laser focus and the night shot. For more complicated stuff, I have a couple Nikon d70s.
One feature that I think should be non-negotiable is a rechargeable battery.
If you don't care about having lots of manual controls, I think that the best camera in terms of image quality and size is the Fuji F10 (now replaced by the F11). It's a small camera, with enough megapixels for most people (5 MP, I believe) and it uses a new sensor technology which allows you to take almost noise-free shots without a flash (e.g. at ISO 400, 800, etc.). It can be had on the street for around $270.
Another nice one is a Canon A610, which can be had for around $250 on the street. It has some manual controls and is considered a very good camera. It's somewhat bulky though.
I would say that more money for megapixels isn't really worth it. A 5 MP camera should be fine for most practical purposes. And if you need 7 MP or something high like that, I'd suggest not getting a compact camera since squeezing that many MP's onto a tiny sensor will give rise to some noise issues on larger prints (defeating the purpose of more MP's).
I really like http://www.dcresource.com for camera reviews and DPReviews is quite good too. Good luck!
One of the few digitals with 28mm lens is the Canon Powershot S60, which I now use as my main camera. It has 5 megapixel capability which is more than enough--you could probably print 11 by 14 pictures without any diminution of quality. Its maximum optical zoom is 105mm, which is adequate. (It also has "digital" zoom but this, as others have noted, is a shuck. You can do the same when you edit the picture by choosing the segment of the picture you want to enlarge. The quality will be identical. With a 5megapixel pictures you can "enlarge" a print somewhat even if you are printing an 8 by 11 picture and quite a bit for a 4by6 print.)
My biggest complaint, a general problem with digitals, is that there is often a lapse of part of a second (and extreme cases, maybe even as much as a second) between pressing the shutter button and the actual shutter operation. This is because it is adjusting for focus and light for recording on the memory card. Thus, if the subject is moving, you may "miss" the most desireable moment. I think there are ways to minimize this, but they aren't much help when you see something you want to take and you don't have time to adjust. (I have lost a handful of nice shots--or what I thought would likely be nice shots--because of this.)
A difficulty with the S60 is that it has its own special battery which needs periodic charging. It lasts a long time, but discharges even when not in use. AA batteries cannot be used in a pinch. It is relatively small, not the smallest but I can carry it in trouser pockets without too much difficulty when I think I am going to use it. It uses the most common memory card, and I have a couple of 512mb cards ($30-50 each--many offered on Amazon) which hold over 400 pictures each at the 5mb setting.
I also bought my son a Kodak 5mb camera for Christmas for about $170 from BestBuy. I hope it won't have the problems you outline.
If you like ultracompact, I can endorse the Canon SD400 (5MP, 3x optical zoom, street price $220-$270), which is smaller than a deck of cards. For a little more, you can get the SD450, which has a larger LCD display &a few extra special photo modes (e.g., "Snow"). Both also take video w/sound.
I like my Canon enough that I bought an A410 for my son for Xmas. For under $120, that gives 3.2MP, 3.2 optical zoom, although the LCD is on the small side and the camera isn't as svelte as the SD series. Consider the A510 if you want the next step up in the line.
One advantage of the larger digicams (over the ultracompacts) is that many models -- like the A410 -- take standard AA batteries. I disagree with Fern: you can always buy rechargeable AAs separately, and you should, but it's nice to be able to walk into any store for batteries if your rechargeable batteries conk out in the middle of a travel day. For my SD400, the only option is buying a second custom-fit slim battery (not cheap) and always carrying it as a backup.
All I have to do know is get authorization from the
accountantwife...I too have not been impressed with Kodak's products; my wife has a tiny Pentax Optio (what good is a camera you don't take with you?) and I just upgraded from my old Nikon Coolpix to a D50 ($535 net with 28-80 zoom from Dell, with an Epson photo printer that will be free after rebates -- thanks to FatWallet's Hot Deals forum).
Overall, I'd rely much more on the online digital camera review sites noted above than on Consumer Reports. The problem is that CR test results for electronics products usually come out only after half the models tested have been discontinued. And as the products they test increase in complexity, they have a harder and harder time keeping up, in many cases not testing important features and in others putting great stock by features that may verge on irrelevance.
I have a 3-meg Canon compact (it had the highest CNet rating). I didn't go with an ultracompact because I didn't need it that small, and I wanted more features. Had it for a year -- it's been fabulous.
I thought about spending another $100 to get to 4 meg. The guy at the camera store said that unless I was going to blog things up beyond 8x10, my eye wouldn't be able to tell the difference, so it wasn't worth it. I've been happy with the picture quality... but if I were getting a camera today, I'd get a 4-5 meg.
SLRs take much better photos for close-up and low-light. But they are big and expensive.
As for a replacement, you need to decide what is important to you, as there are a number of tradeoffs that have to be made regarding size, cost, features (e.g., do you want a lot of manual control? Do you need long focal length?). There is a lot to be said for a camera small enough that you can always carry it with you, but you sacrifice in terms of image quality and features. There is no single "best" camera.
On the megapixel question, most current cameras give you more pixels than you need if all you are going to do is print out 4x6 prints. For large prints or the ability to crop extensively and still have a useable picture, the number of megapixels is important.
Sounds like Apple's early battery policy for the iPod. At least Apple wised up and realized that a $50 discount was an absurd policy decision. Kodak's problem is that the people who can change the policy are either in the dark or don't realize how much damage a bad rep on the net can do to a brand.
My resolve never to buy another Kodak camera weakened when Fry's offered a Kodak Easyshare LS753 (5 MP) camera for $99. I needed a decent walking-around camera that I wouldn't mind breaking or losing. I've been pleased so far: It's been working since June, and I can also use the LS443 battery as a spare. Here are some LS753 pictures from my trip to Florence.
I should also add that I'm a shutterbug from w-a-a-a-a-y back, and made the leap into the digital world about three years ago. I bought my camera, the Canon A80, based in large measure on the recommendation of a professional photographer, Ken Rockwell. I've relied on his extremely thorough and totally opinionated reviews for purchasing decisions on lenses, flashes, camera bodies and digital cameras, and I've got to say the man has never steered me wrong.
He's posted a Holiday Buying Guide that tells you all you need to know about his take on the best digital cameras for all types of photographers, with links to additional info if you need to know even more.
Check out the rest of his web site, especially the How-to section; there's tons of good stuff to be found.
As far as my camera goes, I'm very happy with the A80. Although it's now a couple of years old, it has some design features that make it preferable to some of its newer siblings in the Canon line.
The swiveling screen is a big plus; it enables you to shoot over the heads of a crowd, while letting you to see what's in the picture. It lets you get down for low-to-the-ground shots without forcing you onto your belly. You can use it for unobtrusive candid shots, where the camera doesn't appear to be pointed at anyone.
But the most important aspect of the swiveling screen is the ability to protect it by folding it into the camera body. These LCDs are pretty fragile, and it's nice to be able to drop the camera into your pocket without worrying about scratching the screen.
Another thing I like about the A80 is that it uses AA batteries, not some funky proprietary design by the manufacturer. This means that wherever I am, I can always get batteries if the old ones die. I use rechargeables, which last a lot longer than standard alkelines, and they recharge in less than 30 minutes, too. But it's nice to know that I have the option of ducking into some little bodega if I need to and be able to keep on shooting.
What don't I like? The red-eye reduction feature is irritating, so I turned it off. I also ditched the auto-focus assist beam, cause I think it's distracting when I'm going for candids. I tend to almost never use the flash, preferring natural lighting, and I can handhold some pretty slow shutter speeds if I take my time. The camera can be slow when trying for action shots, but you can deal with this by selecting the fast "motor-drive" option, which cranks off about 10 fps.
I also disabled the digital zoom; anything beyond the 3X optical zoom is just a crap-tastic feature designed to one-up the competition. Trust me, "10X Digital Zoom" is sucker bait for Helen Keller Photography Institute grads. If 3X won't work, get closer. Or, you can buy the telephoto lens Canon makes to fit over the bayonet mount on the front of the camera body. I haven't used it, but I hear it's okay.
I'm tempted by the Casio EX-Z750; it's so small and has more features and capabilities than the Canon, but I've been completely satisfied with the results I've been getting with the A80, so much so that all my expensive Nikon 35mm gear sits unused, gathering dust.
Here's a review of the A80 that's fairly exhaustive.
Megapixels: This became irrelevant after we got to 3 of them. From that point on it is the lens quality that matters far more.
Sensor Noise: The little discussed characteristic that makes uniformly colored areas in low light pictures look grainy.
Shutter Delay: Three kinds - first the time from turn-on to to first picture, second the time from pressing the shutter to actual picture, third the time between two consecutive shots.
Viewfinders: Can you see the scene in the bright sun? Probably not without an optical finder or SLR type finder.
There are no websites that give you the answer. Worse yet, new models from the same manufacturer may go way downhill! Only buy if you can try it and return it.
I think, if Kodak had a manufacturing defect, they should remedy it even if after 3 years, which is far, far, far less than two lifecycles of camera use (though probably two lifecycles of production).
Whatever camera you go with, I'd strongly encourage you to get a camera using standard cells (e.g., AAs) and avoid proprietary batteries. If your battery runs out of juice at an inopportune moment, finding a set of fresh AAs is as easy as finding a drug store or gift shop. Short of putting it on the charger for a few hours, there's not much of anything you can do if your proprietary battery runs down. Not to mention what happens when the prporietary battery gives up the ghost completely after the factory is finished supporting that model.
For my next camera, I'm likely getting an Olympus E-500, but that model's probably not the droid you're looking for. You can go on about your business.
I think they have improved, but I don't blindly take their word for it.
Their service and reliability data can be useful.
When the camera came back, it worked fine. For about a month.
I have a Canon now.
In the digital world, I started with an Instamatic level, VGA resolution model. I switched to a 1.3 MP Sony, and have noticed significant improvement. But I am still limited sometimes by the zoom/crop, and often by the camera thinking it's smarter than I am. (That's what I love about digital — I can afford to take lots of interesting shots.) I rarely print out my pictures, but when I do, I have noticed the digital artifacts.
I like my Sony, but it has the "InfoLithium" battery, which is flakey. It takes alkalines, but it sucks electricity so fast I get maybe 75 shots per set of batteries, and they're physically hot when I swap them out. I hope my next camera has better power management; if I have to spring for an external charger and a couple of sets of good NiMH batteries, I could live with that.
When I can afford it, I want some more resolution, as much optical zoom as I can get, and I insist on a full manual mode.
He is right, that subject and composition and all the other non-camera stuff is vitally important.
Best regards,
SteveR
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