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"Republicans Blame Election Losses On Democrats":
Read about it in The Onion, via Kos.
EricH (mail):
Well, the excuse of blaming it on the voting machines was already taken.

Along with just about every other the dog-ate-my-ballot excuse. Gotta' give it to the Dems, they can sure come up with them.

But they also won, so they get to crow for awhile, too.
11.9.2006 5:45pm
liberty (mail) (www):
11.9.2006 5:46pm
JonBuck (mail):
I wonder if John Stewart be as merciless on the Democrats as he's been on the Republicans.
11.9.2006 6:27pm
te:

I wonder if John Stewart be as merciless on the Democrats as he's been on the Republicans.

Doesn't that sort of depend on the material?

It's kind of hard to top a Veep who shot somebody in the fact, the Katrina debacle, the ill planned and ill-conceived war in Iraq, the Dukestir selling earmarks, etc. And then, just in the past few weeks you have had the Mark Foley scandal and the Reverend Haggard thing.

I guess maybe that America will be shocked and apalled when they discovery that Barney Frank is, in fact, a straight guy with a wife and 3 darling kids and a deacon in his Church . . .
11.9.2006 6:56pm
te:
should be: shot in the face . . .
11.9.2006 6:57pm
talboito (mail) (www):
I wonder if John Stewart be as merciless on the Democrats as he's been on the Republicans.


I wonder if the Republican's might have been more merciful on our National strength, honor and safety Stewart might have been equally so.
11.9.2006 7:07pm
KeithK (mail):
It always depends on the material, of course. I think you're kidding yourself if you think the Democratic leadership or rank and file won't do and say plenty of stupid things in the next two years. It's the nature of politicians.
11.9.2006 7:17pm
wb (mail):
Duh!! That is what the opposition is supposed to do. A more plausible title would be "Republicans Credit Democrats with their Defeat.' The blame belongs squarely to Mr. Bush and the arrogant sleeze he surrounded himself with.
11.9.2006 7:48pm
Owen Hutchins (mail):
Duh, it's a flippin' HUMOR piece!
11.9.2006 8:24pm
gr (www):

I wonder if John Stewart be as merciless on the Democrats as he's been on the Republicans.

Do you see how he treats them now?
11.9.2006 8:39pm
Michael B (mail):
"... strength, honor and safety ..."

Of strength, the debt has been reduced multiplied times faster than had been projecte by either party, and this despite Katrina and the expenditures as a result of the WoT.

Of honor, we've deposed Saddam &Sons, have continued to support Israel, deposed the Taliban and are continuing to support Karzai. Mistakes do not equate to a lack of honor.

Of safety, since 9/11 no domestic attacks have occurred, indeed they've been averted. No instances like the Cole, the Kohbar Towers, the African Embassies, etc. - and this in an atmosphere where nonetheless salafists/jihadists are advancing their cause and their tactics/strategies along militant and other lines as well. Some examples: In Indonesia where three young girls were recently beheaded as "Ramadan trophies" and others are being threatened; where the "democratically elected" Hamas has recently called on Muslims around the world to attack American targets; where former airline ticket agent and now jihadist Dhiren Barot was sentenced to life in prison; where a recent homicide/suicide bomber in Peshwar, Pakistan killed forty-two; where Paris is witnessing extreme violence in the name of Islam and Islamicist/jihadist interests; where Britain and other European countries are having fundamental problems in terms of demographics, incitements to violence and other problems reflecting an ingrown culture of dissimulation and distruction together with an increading evisceration of Western norms such as freedom of speech; where similar initiatives have recently occurred in Australia; where Darfur, Sudan is continuing, presently, in accord with genocidal or near-genocidal form, under the regime of Arab Muslims; where additionally we've experienced episodes such as 3/11, 7/7, Bali, Istanbul, Casablanca, Beslan, etc., etc.; where Iran and North Korea are forwarding nuclear programs and other authoritarian, Arab Muslim states are expressing similar interests.

Not exactly a very safe world out there, yet we've not experienced a domestic attack since 9/11. No suicide/homicide attacks in a multi-plex, a laundromat, a shopping center, a local school building, a market.

And all the previously mentioned scenarios are reflective of a far larger, more deeply seated ideological intent. Additionally still all this doesn't broach the subject of Western interests in the MSM and elsewhere which at best reflect a culture of arrogated and highly leveraged contempt and at worse verges at times on fifth columnist styled initiatives and interests.

So much for your humorless, arrogated note concerning "strength, honor and safety".
11.9.2006 8:45pm
JB:
Of strength, the debt has been reduced multiplied times faster than had been projecte by either party, and this despite Katrina and the expenditures as a result of the WoT.

Normally I don't like to pick on grammar, but I have to ask: Is this English? Are you arguing that (a) the national debt has been reduced under Bush, and (b) the national debt has been reduced more than twice as fast as anyone predicted?

I'd like to see some evidence of this, or at least a clarification as to what exactly you meant.
11.9.2006 9:28pm
Hattio (mail):
JB,
Don't you know that asking for evidence shows you have been tricked by the mainstream media, and are supporting the terrorists. You should be ashamed.
11.9.2006 9:41pm
JerryW (mail):
Doesn't that sort of depend on the material?

It's kind of hard to top a Veep who shot somebody in the fact, the Katrina debacle, the ill planned and ill-conceived war in Iraq, the Dukestir selling earmarks, etc. And then, just in the past few weeks you have had the Mark Foley scandal and the Reverend Haggard thing.


Just off the top of my head

1) Congressman William Jefferson $90,000 found in back of freezer

2) Congressman Alcee Hastings- impeached, convicted and removed as a Federal Judge inline to be Committee Chairman

3) NJ Senator Robert Menendez- Hudson county

4) Ex-Congressman Gerry Studds actually had sex with a 17 year old page not just emails. Honored last month.

And they haven't even taken office yet. I bet Stewart could find a lot of humor there. BTW, I predict he will.
11.9.2006 9:44pm
A. Zarkov (mail):
"Of strength, the debt has been reduced multiplied times faster than had been projecte by either party, and this despite Katrina and the expenditures as a result of the WoT."

I don't understand this sentence. I think it's trying to say that if you look at the national debt as a function of time, a derivative of some order became negative before either party thought it would. But I'm not sure. It looks like a machine translation from a language other than English. All your base are belong to us?
11.9.2006 9:51pm
Tillman Fan (mail):
This Onion article isn't even satire -- it's essentially lifted from Byron York's book about the Democratic effort to "bring down a president" by campaigning to elect John Kerry in 2004.
11.9.2006 10:01pm
Arbusto Spectrum:

the debt has been reduced multiplied times faster than had been projecte by either party, and this despite Katrina and the expenditures as a result of the WoT.


Ignoring the grammatical problems, the underlying statement is one that demonstrates a complete ignorance of the topic. There is no dispute that the national debt (external) has increased by roughly $3 trillion, or 50%, since Bush took office. Including unfunded liabilities as well as incremental borrowings from the social security administration, the numbers are even more staggering, The claim made by the Bush administration is that they reduced the deficit (i.e. annual shortfall in income) by more than 50% in the last two or three years. Of course, those numbers exclude the "extraordinary" spending on the WOT that we will likely face for the forseeable future, and numerous other gimmicks too numerous to detail. This is not specific to the current administration, but government accounting makes Enron look clean.
And, if for any out there who believe the government's numbers, I live very close to a bridge that is for sale (not in Alaska) -- I can give you a great deal on it.
11.9.2006 10:38pm
JosephSlater (mail):
Um, I'll just say that was a pretty funny headline. Some posters need to get a bit of sense of humor.
11.9.2006 10:45pm
Michael B (mail):
Had intended to say deficit rather than debt.
11.9.2006 10:45pm
Michael B (mail):
Agreed Mr. Slater, but direct that to talboito, to whom the response in question was directed.
11.9.2006 10:54pm
Pete Freans (mail):
What I find humorous is the decidely quieter tone the dems have exhibited now that they are in control. What ever happened to President Bush as fascist, liar, and mentally ill? While I genuinely look forward to this party to behaving like adults rather than babies without bottles, the fact is, the dems need Bush more than Bush needs the dems if they have any chance of capturing the big prize in 08'. Assuming of course they have an agenda already in place to put forward. They do have an agenda in place, don't they? Anyone...anyone...Schumer...Schumer?
11.10.2006 7:57am
Chumund:
Pete,

At this point, I have seen it so often I think I can recite the Democrats' immediate legislative agenda by heart. I believe it is:

Raise the minimum wage;

Allow the federal government to negotiate for lower drug prices;

And enact the 9/11 Commission recommendations.
11.10.2006 9:16am
Chumund:
Pete,

Oh, and I also wanted to note that the President has backed away from his "A vote for the Democrats is a vote for the terrorists!" rhetoric as well.
11.10.2006 9:18am
Chumund:
Oh, and it is probably a safe bet that the Democrats will work with the President on the parts of his agenda that they like, but that the Republican Congress did not, such as immigration reform and funding for alternative energy research.
11.10.2006 9:27am
lucia (mail) (www):
Michael b responding to talboito> Mistakes do not equate to a lack of honor.

My guess is talboito was thinking "alternate interrogation techniques" equate "to lack of honor."
11.10.2006 9:33am
JosephSlater (mail):
Michael B.: I wasn't aiming my original comment at you in particular.

Indeed, since last night, examples supporting my point have multiplied. Good grief, it's just a cute one-liner, non-partisan joke (it would have been just as funny if the Repubs had won and the parties had been reversed).

I know, I'm free not to read stuff, but maybe the VC should return to having open threads so people that feel the need to vent can vent.
11.10.2006 10:44am
Pete Freans (mail):
I also wanted to note that the President has backed away from his "A vote for the Democrats is a vote for the terrorists!" rhetoric as well.

Chumund,

He may not say it anymore for the mere fact that the election is over, but it appears to be coming to fruition. (Note 8th paragraph from the top).
11.10.2006 2:26pm
Michael B (mail):
Joseph, I wasn't assumming it was directed at my post in particular; I was suggesting the post it might be directed at, in particular, as it represented a particularly humorless, misbegotten and cheap effort and was the first post herein to so excessively do so.

lucia, thank you, but I understand he and I were thinking of different things. If individual instances of dishonorable behavior govern the general situation, then virtually no effort or war was honorable, including WWII. He was speaking in general terms, not specifically, as such it was a particularly cheap shot, especially so in this thread.
11.10.2006 3:20pm