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Rifqa Bary case update:

Transcript of yesterday's conference call led by Frank Gaffney, with Noni Darwish and the Florida Security Council. Background here.

ArthurKirkland:
The Florida Security Council?

What's next? Hanging around with Michele Bachmann?
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Oops. Never mind.
9.2.2009 3:44pm
troll_dc2 (mail):
I hope that this lady is not being "protected" by religious loonies. This is actually a serious problem. I know someone who is in this country under special dispensation because of apostacy problems, but while he has practically been disowned by his mother and brothers (who apparently are here under different rules), no one in this country is proposing to kill him; so far as I know, they have limited themselves merely to stealing his portion of their father's estate. But he is a man, not a woman.

But has this lady has been well served by her lawyers and other helpers? From the little I know (and I do not know how reliable the information is), it seems doubtful.
9.2.2009 4:47pm
LarryR (mail):

I hope that this lady is not being "protected" by religious loonies.


Religious loones? I think this term might be more accurately used to describe a father who wants to harm his daughter because she changed religions.

To some of you, your anti-Christian beliefs are paramount, so much so that the first comment out of your mouths is a salvo that some of the people who have given this girl sanctuary are religious loonies.
9.3.2009 11:18am
troll_dc2 (mail):

I hope that this lady is not being "protected" by religious loonies.


Religious loones? I think this term might be more accurately used to describe a father who wants to harm his daughter because she changed religions.

To some of you, your anti-Christian beliefs are paramount, so much so that the first comment out of your mouths is a salvo that some of the people who have given this girl sanctuary are religious loonies.


My phrase "religious loonies" concerns people who are so taken by the desire to protect converts that they have no idea as to how to really protect potential honor-killing victims. This girl needs a really aggressive lawyer; I hope that she got one.
9.3.2009 12:14pm
JSS (mail):
Why are the Florida courts hearing this case other than to return the girl to the custody and care of the Ohio authorities? Which state agency is in a better position to assess her home situation?
Switch the religious labels with identical facts and see where you end up. We are all for freedom religion right? Suppose a christian teen meets a muslim couple on the internet. After a fight with her christian mother (for staying out late without permission) she hops a bus to Florida with hopes of converting to Islam. She moves in with the Muslim couple, who delay notifying the Florida authorities for a period of time. "I just want to be free to read my Koran(Bible) and say, praise Alla (Jesus)", she tells the Florida press. If I go back to Ohio my father will harm me for wanting to become a Muslim.

No doubt in my mind the same people who are "helping" her in Florida now would be screaming to send her back to Ohio.
9.4.2009 2:07pm
markm (mail):
JSS: That depends.

1) Does her parents' Bible specifically tell them to kill apostates? I'm pretty sure mine doesn't.

2) Is there a recent history of multiple cases where Christians killed apostates, even in North America? (Toronto police are investigating four alleged honor killings.)

3) Did the relatives they want to send her back to beat her and put her eye out?
9.4.2009 7:25pm

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